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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
December 23 2012 06:18 GMT
#2041
Well I knew woongjin would win it one way or another . Congrats
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andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
December 23 2012 06:18 GMT
#2042
On December 23 2012 15:15 StarStruck wrote:
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On December 23 2012 15:13 andaylin wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:12 Netsky wrote:
That sucks for EGTL. If Puma didn't throw the previous game who knows what would of happened.

Actually we do, EGTL would have won lol


Who would you have sent out in PuMa's stead or what b.o. would you ask of him? sHy is very good and it was a hard draw regardless like the rest. It had ace match written all over it.

Well if Puma hadn't thrown the game and won, EGTL would have won no?
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Xalorian
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada433 Posts
December 23 2012 06:18 GMT
#2043
On December 23 2012 15:15 StarStruck wrote:
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On December 23 2012 15:13 andaylin wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:12 Netsky wrote:
That sucks for EGTL. If Puma didn't throw the previous game who knows what would of happened.

Actually we do, EGTL would have won lol


Who would you have sent out in PuMa's stead or what b.o. would you ask of him? sHy is very good and it was a hard draw regardless like the rest. It had ace match written all over it.


If Puma didn't throw the previous game, EGTL would have won right there, without an ace match. That was the point.
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
December 23 2012 06:18 GMT
#2044
On December 23 2012 15:14 oBlade wrote:
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On December 23 2012 15:12 whirlpool wrote:
lol i think EG-TL expected JD ace match, thats why they sent JYP , zerg killer lol

If you believe that EG-TL was expecting JYP to beat Jaedong in an ace match, then I seriously question either you or EG-TL's ability to understand Starcraft.


why ? JYP known for his vZ and JD fucking awful vs protoss, he still cant handle immortal sentry allin.
GunPaladin
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1205 Posts
December 23 2012 06:19 GMT
#2045
only aces for EG-TL at this point should be Hero & Taeja.
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Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
December 23 2012 06:19 GMT
#2046
On December 23 2012 15:16 Jtom wrote:
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On December 23 2012 15:11 soulist wrote:
I'm not sure how you guys are blaming JYP for this. He clearly did the right move for what he scouted. He just got mind-gamed. He played what he saw. Fuck off you stupid shits.

I like JYP, but 1 base colossus against blink stalker is not a good idea.


What he did would have made 0 sense against blink stalker. He knew there was no blink. That kind of push is actually pretty strong against a FE and works a lot of the time. His micro was subpar with his Zealots stuck behind an Immortal that got focused down instantly. With better control and not wasting that warp in on the Zealots on the high ground he could have possibly won that.
anrimayu
Profile Joined June 2011
United States875 Posts
December 23 2012 06:19 GMT
#2047
On December 23 2012 15:16 BoZiffer wrote:
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On December 23 2012 15:14 Footler wrote:
TL needs to bring over TLO, he is in good form lately and might perform a bit better than certain other players we have been seeing. Hell, even Sheth might be worth the risk, he's been known to surprise every once in a while.


...what? Good lord, you cannot be serious.


TLO improved a lot recently, so he's a much better choice than the current players. Sheth is going through some stuff, so he's out though.
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EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
December 23 2012 06:19 GMT
#2048
On December 23 2012 15:18 Pvvned wrote:
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On December 23 2012 15:14 munchmunch wrote:
Man, what's the point of cheering for EG-TL if this is what we are going to get? I mean, I could cheer for a bad team that went down fighting valiantly. But a skilled team that just doesn't want to fight? What's the point of cheering for that?

They are the most experienced team if you look at how long most of their players have been playing SC2

but that doesn't really mean anything in a structured team league like PL where your opponents will spend all week preparing for you, down to the smallest details


yes a lot of it comes down to sending what players on what map and choosing the correct ace, currently eg-tl and t8 have the worst coaching staff, and they both are'nt doing great
savior did nothing wrong
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6537 Posts
December 23 2012 06:19 GMT
#2049
You win some, you lose some. Let's not forget Taeja's (perhaps flawed under later analysis) effective response to a strategy that was probably sculpted specifically to take him out.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
December 23 2012 06:19 GMT
#2050
On December 23 2012 15:16 glzElectromaster wrote:
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On December 23 2012 15:14 Angelbelow wrote:
The majority reaction in this thread is amusing.

When JYP was called Taeja clapped to support him. Perhaps you guys can learn to do the same.

Was it a mistake? Maybe, but what is the point of all this whining. We have no idea what the thought process behind that decision was either.


Taeja just seems really happy to be in PL. I'm glad lol. Remember yesterday when CJ sent out Hydra? herO and EffOrt looked angry lol.

But I feel that neither player gets a blame in PvP. Unless they played utterly terrible, which JYP wasn't that bad this time, I think he just needs a "good luck next time"-pat in the back.

EGTL just doesn't do well with Ace matches, I guess At least my liquibet is going strong though lol.


I think Jaedong hit the nail on the head when he mentioned that they (EG-TL) were the new kids on the block. Besides Jaedong, the others don't really have much experience. You have PuMa who played a few and that's basically it.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6537 Posts
December 23 2012 06:20 GMT
#2051
On December 23 2012 15:18 whirlpool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:14 oBlade wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:12 whirlpool wrote:
lol i think EG-TL expected JD ace match, thats why they sent JYP , zerg killer lol

If you believe that EG-TL was expecting JYP to beat Jaedong in an ace match, then I seriously question either you or EG-TL's ability to understand Starcraft.


why ? JYP known for his vZ and JD fucking awful vs protoss, he still cant handle immortal sentry allin.

They're on the same team.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
December 23 2012 06:20 GMT
#2052
#1 power-ranking team ended up at a solid #7.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 23 2012 06:20 GMT
#2053
On December 23 2012 15:16 Jtom wrote:
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On December 23 2012 15:11 soulist wrote:
I'm not sure how you guys are blaming JYP for this. He clearly did the right move for what he scouted. He just got mind-gamed. He played what he saw. Fuck off you stupid shits.

I like JYP, but 1 base colossus against blink stalker is not the right move. I would argue that he actually got a more favourable build to face off against because of the cancel.


I think JYP pretty much knew it wasn't blink stalkers when it didn't hit at a certain timing. He probably figured out he got duped and shy had expanded putting him way behind. All he could do at that point was to try to all in.
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 06:21:29
December 23 2012 06:20 GMT
#2054
On December 23 2012 15:19 EleanorRIgby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:18 Pvvned wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:14 munchmunch wrote:
Man, what's the point of cheering for EG-TL if this is what we are going to get? I mean, I could cheer for a bad team that went down fighting valiantly. But a skilled team that just doesn't want to fight? What's the point of cheering for that?

They are the most experienced team if you look at how long most of their players have been playing SC2

but that doesn't really mean anything in a structured team league like PL where your opponents will spend all week preparing for you, down to the smallest details


yes a lot of it comes down to sending what players on what map and choosing the correct ace, currently eg-tl and t8 have the worst coaching staff, and they both are'nt doing great


Yeah T8 had it easy last season. Ace Match? Time to call out JD.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
December 23 2012 06:21 GMT
#2055
On December 23 2012 15:20 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:18 whirlpool wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:14 oBlade wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:12 whirlpool wrote:
lol i think EG-TL expected JD ace match, thats why they sent JYP , zerg killer lol

If you believe that EG-TL was expecting JYP to beat Jaedong in an ace match, then I seriously question either you or EG-TL's ability to understand Starcraft.


why ? JYP known for his vZ and JD fucking awful vs protoss, he still cant handle immortal sentry allin.

They're on the same team.

I was hoping someone would bring this up. The whole time I was reading this exchange, I was WTF-ing pretty hard.
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
December 23 2012 06:21 GMT
#2056
On December 23 2012 15:17 Adersick wrote:
Ack, so close. JYP can play damn well, he just needs to adjust to the tournament setting, focus on keeping a clear mind to ensure that his early attacks are clean and efficient. Good showing by EG-Liquid, Proleague is far from over, so I have high hopes! EG-TL fighting!

JYP has had bad performances for the longest time.. I can hardly remember the last time he played a really good game against a good opponent. I get that coach would want to field him to give him experience, but right now he's pretty much a rookie. You don't send rookies as ACE unless you got something very special going on. Just by experience, even with that terrible map and with how he's performing vs P, even JD would have been a better choice.

Personally, I would have chosen HerO, he looked extremely confident, and that plays a huge part on PL matches, particularly on ACE matches.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
December 23 2012 06:21 GMT
#2057
Most matches went as I predicted, minus the ace. Would have never guessed JYP being sent out when you have TaeJa, JD, HerO present. Also Shy was an odd choice as well, no SoulKey? O_O!
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-23 06:21:59
December 23 2012 06:21 GMT
#2058
On December 23 2012 15:20 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:18 whirlpool wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:14 oBlade wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:12 whirlpool wrote:
lol i think EG-TL expected JD ace match, thats why they sent JYP , zerg killer lol

If you believe that EG-TL was expecting JYP to beat Jaedong in an ace match, then I seriously question either you or EG-TL's ability to understand Starcraft.


why ? JYP known for his vZ and JD fucking awful vs protoss, he still cant handle immortal sentry allin.

They're on the same team.


lol i must be too tired, time to sleep ROFL
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
December 23 2012 06:21 GMT
#2059
On December 23 2012 15:21 Stanlot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:20 oBlade wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:18 whirlpool wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:14 oBlade wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:12 whirlpool wrote:
lol i think EG-TL expected JD ace match, thats why they sent JYP , zerg killer lol

If you believe that EG-TL was expecting JYP to beat Jaedong in an ace match, then I seriously question either you or EG-TL's ability to understand Starcraft.


why ? JYP known for his vZ and JD fucking awful vs protoss, he still cant handle immortal sentry allin.

They're on the same team.

I was hoping someone would bring this up. The whole time I was reading this exchange, I was WTF-ing pretty hard.

Yeah I was confused too and decided not to hahaha
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Jtom
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland1044 Posts
December 23 2012 06:22 GMT
#2060
On December 23 2012 15:19 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2012 15:16 Jtom wrote:
On December 23 2012 15:11 soulist wrote:
I'm not sure how you guys are blaming JYP for this. He clearly did the right move for what he scouted. He just got mind-gamed. He played what he saw. Fuck off you stupid shits.

I like JYP, but 1 base colossus against blink stalker is not a good idea.


What he did would have made 0 sense against blink stalker. He knew there was no blink. That kind of push is actually pretty strong against a FE and works a lot of the time. His micro was subpar with his Zealots stuck behind an Immortal that got focused down instantly. With better control and not wasting that warp in on the Zealots on the high ground he could have possibly won that.

When did he scout the twilight cancel? I'm pretty sure his robo bay was almost done before any observers were in Shy's base.
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