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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/L6Pww.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/m4pL9.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rk5yz.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/UnR5N.png) WB FinalsSunday, Dec 16 5:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Zenio <GSL Whirlwind>  TitaN + Show Spoiler + TaeJa <GSL Entombed Valley> Fraer + Show Spoiler + HerO <GSL Daybreak> LiveZerg + Show Spoiler + TLO <GSL Metropolis> Pomi + Show Spoiler + TLO <GSL Metropolis> Pomi TLO <TBD> Pomi Not Played
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(Vote): ROX
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/mgq38.png) LB FinalsSunday, Dec 16 8:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Fraer <GSL Entombed Valley> Cella + Show Spoiler + Fraer <GSL Entombed Valley> Cella Fraer <Whirlwind> Cella LiveZerg <GSL Atlantis Spaceship> Bly + Show Spoiler + LiveZerg <GSL Atlantis Spaceship> Bly LiveZerg <Whirlwind> Bly Pomi <GSL Cloud Kingdom> MMA + Show Spoiler + Pomi <GSL Cloud Kingdom> MMA Pomi <Entombed Valley> MMA Pomi <Antiga Shipyard> MMA TitaN <GSL Metropolis> Nerchio + Show Spoiler + TitaN <GSL Metropolis> Nerchio TitaN <TBD> Nerchio TitaN vs Nerchio not played out due to RoX winning 3-0
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Grand FinalsSunday, Dec 16 10:30pm GMT (GMT+00:00) Zenio <GSL Daybreak> Pomi + Show Spoiler + HerO <GSL Cloud Kingdom> Fraer + Show Spoiler + TaeJa <GSL Metropolis> LiveZerg + Show Spoiler + TLO <GSL Antiga Shipyard> TitaN + Show Spoiler +Final Score:
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Go Team Acer! If Acer deploys MMA, Nerchio and Scarlett, it would be very tough to stop them indeed. If only they had a one more player at that level, and they could fill the entire lineup.
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Russian Federation210 Posts
i think:
Zenio 1 2 Titan
Taeja 2 1 fraer
Hero 1 2 Livezerg
TLO 0 2 Pomi
and then, liquid > acer and liqiud > rox
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C'mon Acer, you can make it!
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Liquid or Acer to win it all!!
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Zenio 2-1 Titan
TaeJa 2-0 fraer
HerO 2-1 LiveZerg
TLO - Pomi not needed then
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good matchups for RoX, still think Liquid keeps the upper hand in the Ace
Zenio 1-2 Titan
Taeja 2-1 fraer
HerO 2-0 Livezerg
TLO 0-2 Pomi
HerO 2-1 fraer
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Zenio 0-2 Titan
Taeja 1-2 Fraer
HerO 2-0 Livezerg
TLO 1-2 Pomi.
RoxKis has actually a nice shot here, the Matchups are very good for them. However if Taeja shows up in his best form, he will probably beat Fraer and Liquid will probably win the ace.
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Zenio 2-1 TitaN
Taeja 2-0 fraer
HerO 2-1 LiveZerg
TLO 1-2 Pomi
Should be somewhat close, but Liquid has the clear advantage. I'll be happy if ROX just get second.
Titan has looked a bit weak recently, fraer's style isn't that good against Taeja I don't think, and HerO vs LiveZerg could go either way, but when in doubt, go with the Korean.
Strangely enough, Pomi might be the most clutch ROXKIS player at the moment. :D
And that's while he seems to mostly cast and doesn't play, what a guy.
To EG: Please update the results of the uncasted games from the groupstage on Liquipedia or at the very least on your site, I want to know who won in all those matches, especially ROX vs Quantic and ROX vs coL.
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Liquid will probably take it, but I can see how they could lose this.
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If the matchups were fraer vs HerO, TitaN vs Taeja, LZ vs TLO and Pomi vs Zenio, I'd give ROX a good shot.
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The match-ups actually look decent for ROX.KIS, HerO can always lose a PvZ, TaeJa TvP is good but not unbeatable and Zenio and TLO are both not the strongest ZvP players. I would be surprised if this doesn't go to the ace match.
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Titan, fraer and Pomi to win.
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On December 16 2012 19:26 Dgotto wrote:
i think:
Zenio 1 2 Titan
Taeja 2 1 fraer
Hero 1 2 Livezerg
TLO 0 2 Pomi
and then, liquid > acer and liqiud > rox
Lmao Hero and Zenio are not going to lose.
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Are these games played live or from replays?
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On December 17 2012 01:44 sudete wrote:
Are these games played live or from replays?
Replay.
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On December 17 2012 01:42 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2012 19:26 Dgotto wrote:
i think:
Zenio 1 2 Titan
Taeja 2 1 fraer
Hero 1 2 Livezerg
TLO 0 2 Pomi
and then, liquid > acer and liqiud > rox Lmao Hero and Zenio are not going to lose.
Titan defeated guys like Curious or Stephano before, he should have a good chance to beat Zenio IMHO.
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anyone else not have sound??
EDIT: Okay, I just refreshed it about 7 times and now I have sound XD
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On December 17 2012 01:48 Serinox wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 01:44 sudete wrote:
Are these games played live or from replays? Replay.
Games were played in the last 48 hours, however.
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On December 17 2012 02:14 tree.hugger wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 01:48 Serinox wrote:On December 17 2012 01:44 sudete wrote:
Are these games played live or from replays? Replay. Games were played in the last 48 hours, however.
Lots of team league action for you guys these days...
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Woah how can you fuck up forcefields that badly with this many Sentries...
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Guess it doesn't matter either way.
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i thought it was a macrohatch?
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I dunno but Titan surely realizes that the Hive finished and Zenio had enough time to start upgrading his spire.
PS:
Doesn't anybody give a shit about this tournament? I mean only a bit more than thousand viewers and this thread doesn't grow at all :s
edit: yeh, view count is closer to 3k actually, sry!
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On December 17 2012 02:59 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
I dunno but Titan surely realizes that the Hive finished and Zenio had enough time to start upgrading his spire.
PS:
Doesn't anybody give a shit about this tournament? I mean only a bit more than thousand viewers and this thread doesn't grow at all :s
2,7k viewers at the moment, still pretty low considering fan favourite liquid is playing.
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On December 17 2012 02:59 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
I dunno but Titan surely realizes that the Hive finished and Zenio had enough time to start upgrading his spire.
PS:
Doesn't anybody give a shit about this tournament? I mean only a bit more than thousand viewers and this thread doesn't grow at all :s
I do care, but what are you gonna do, I won't have a conversation with myself in the thread. :D
Sucks for Titan, he played pretty well until now.
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On December 17 2012 03:01 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 02:59 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
I dunno but Titan surely realizes that the Hive finished and Zenio had enough time to start upgrading his spire.
PS:
Doesn't anybody give a shit about this tournament? I mean only a bit more than thousand viewers and this thread doesn't grow at all :s I do care, but what are you gonna do, I won't have a conversation with myself in the thread. :D Sucks for Titan, he played pretty well until now.
I'm here as well but if it's so empty here I rather just watch.
Really good game by Zenio by the way.
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On December 17 2012 03:05 CrazyBirdman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 03:01 StarVe wrote:On December 17 2012 02:59 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
I dunno but Titan surely realizes that the Hive finished and Zenio had enough time to start upgrading his spire.
PS:
Doesn't anybody give a shit about this tournament? I mean only a bit more than thousand viewers and this thread doesn't grow at all :s I do care, but what are you gonna do, I won't have a conversation with myself in the thread. :D Sucks for Titan, he played pretty well until now. I'm here as well but if it's so empty here I rather just watch. Really good game by Zenio by the way.
i really enjoy this tourney, but laid back in my chair, so have to use a lot of muscles to reach the keyboard, hence not so many posts.
good game by zenio, thought he would be in a tough spot after hive being sniped, fourth base of titan at 5 hp etc. sloppy by titan to let his mothership get neuraled there, but i guess he was trying to recall into main or something?
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Very good point by DeMuslim!
If Fraer had just traded with Zenio earlier, he would be able to techswitch much faster than he was - The fact that he didn't lose enough units lost him the game
I didn't think of that at all
PvZ is such a mess to me still though
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On December 17 2012 03:05 CrazyBirdman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 03:01 StarVe wrote:On December 17 2012 02:59 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
I dunno but Titan surely realizes that the Hive finished and Zenio had enough time to start upgrading his spire.
PS:
Doesn't anybody give a shit about this tournament? I mean only a bit more than thousand viewers and this thread doesn't grow at all :s I do care, but what are you gonna do, I won't have a conversation with myself in the thread. :D Sucks for Titan, he played pretty well until now. I'm here as well but if it's so empty here I rather just watch. Really good game by Zenio by the way.
Yeah, game winning move clicking the greater spire button as the hive finished. If Titan just flies in with the prism and doesn't wait until his penix killed the overlords, he kills the morphing hive before it's done and I think he might have won the game with a follow-up push and constant reinforcements if broodlords were pushed back another five minutes.
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Zenio pulling through in the finals even though he had a pretty bad record this season. Woo Zenio!
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On December 17 2012 03:13 DinosaurJones wrote:
Zenio pulling through in the finals even though he had a pretty bad record this season. Woo Zenio!
Yeah, he's like 2-5 or something.
Gogo fraer, four-gate him!
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Stream lags for anybody else?
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Nah, all fine here.
Silly fraer, should have four-gated without the nexus. :D
Oh jeez, imagine he hadn't lost all those stalkers due to bad reaction time and/or lag. It wouldn't even have been close.
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
come on foreigners, this is getting ridiculous...
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fraer just foreignered this one away.
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Wtf is Fraer doing? Build Nexus and a few Sentries after killing so many SCV's and it should have been such an easy win. I don't get it.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Pretty fun match despite some questionable decisions.
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both try very hard to lose this game multiple times
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Same as on Ohana in RSL vs Gumiho, he's great at holding off and performing early aggression, but then he relies on his micro and stalkers for too long, gets blink cause he's great with it and DTs but in the end stalkers just don't scale well with upgraded stimmed MMM. Unfortunately this isn't a BO3 so he can go all reverse kill 3-2 on Taeja's ass.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
That match was so wtf fraer thought it needed 6 ggs.
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Fun game, very tense. I love these micro intensive TvPs.
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If he build just another Sentry he should have been able to hold that. To greedy waiting for those DT's.
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Those two tanks... all those sentrys....
That almost hurt.
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On December 17 2012 03:39 CrazyBirdman wrote:
Those two tanks... all those sentrys....
That almost hurt.
It was like bacon for my eyes
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On December 17 2012 03:40 ELA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 03:39 CrazyBirdman wrote:
Those two tanks... all those sentrys....
That almost hurt. It was like bacon for my eyes
You have no heart.
OMG; Taeja two base all-inning, he's afraid of fraer in a macro game!!!
Jk, guys. It's okay.
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On December 17 2012 03:40 ELA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 03:39 CrazyBirdman wrote:
Those two tanks... all those sentrys....
That almost hurt. It was like bacon for my eyes
I am a TaeJa fan as well but still... fraer attack plans shattered in just a fraction of a second.
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After Sea rolling over Genius with tanks, Taeja has to make up´, it seems. More tanks, everybody wins. 
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I predict HerO losing to a slow ling runby.
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On December 16 2012 22:45 StarVe wrote:
Zenio 2-1 TitaN
Taeja 2-0 fraer
HerO 2-1 LiveZerg
TLO 1-2 Pomi
Should be somewhat close, but Liquid has the clear advantage. I'll be happy if ROX just get second.
Titan has looked a bit weak recently, fraer's style isn't that good against Taeja I don't think, and HerO vs LiveZerg could go either way, but when in doubt, go with the Korean.
Strangely enough, Pomi might be the most clutch ROXKIS player at the moment. :D
And that's while he seems to mostly cast and doesn't play, what a guy.
To EG: Please update the results of the uncasted games from the groupstage on Liquipedia or at the very least on your site, I want to know who won in all those matches, especially ROX vs Quantic and ROX vs coL.
Was wondering the same before, but quantic disbanded and didn't play i guess. Walkovers?
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Haha, must be sooo frustrating to be Zerg in that position...
It's like the beagle boys stealing the keys to your house while you are fiddeling with them infront of the door, runs inside, locks the door and just start wrecking the place while you can just stand and watch through the windows
![[image loading]](http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/1/17166/1563937-bboys_large.png)
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On December 17 2012 03:52 Sjokola wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2012 22:45 StarVe wrote:
Zenio 2-1 TitaN
Taeja 2-0 fraer
HerO 2-1 LiveZerg
TLO 1-2 Pomi
Should be somewhat close, but Liquid has the clear advantage. I'll be happy if ROX just get second.
Titan has looked a bit weak recently, fraer's style isn't that good against Taeja I don't think, and HerO vs LiveZerg could go either way, but when in doubt, go with the Korean.
Strangely enough, Pomi might be the most clutch ROXKIS player at the moment. :D
And that's while he seems to mostly cast and doesn't play, what a guy.
To EG: Please update the results of the uncasted games from the groupstage on Liquipedia or at the very least on your site, I want to know who won in all those matches, especially ROX vs Quantic and ROX vs coL. Was wondering the same before, but quantic disbanded and didn't play i guess. Walkovers?
Nah, both matches were played, I just don't know the results.
In other news, fuck me, today is a busy day. I'm watching four streams already and now IronSquid is starting, what the hell am I supposed to do?
LiveZerg got this, maybe they still have a shot?
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On December 17 2012 04:08 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 03:52 Sjokola wrote:On December 16 2012 22:45 StarVe wrote:
Zenio 2-1 TitaN
Taeja 2-0 fraer
HerO 2-1 LiveZerg
TLO 1-2 Pomi
Should be somewhat close, but Liquid has the clear advantage. I'll be happy if ROX just get second.
Titan has looked a bit weak recently, fraer's style isn't that good against Taeja I don't think, and HerO vs LiveZerg could go either way, but when in doubt, go with the Korean.
Strangely enough, Pomi might be the most clutch ROXKIS player at the moment. :D
And that's while he seems to mostly cast and doesn't play, what a guy.
To EG: Please update the results of the uncasted games from the groupstage on Liquipedia or at the very least on your site, I want to know who won in all those matches, especially ROX vs Quantic and ROX vs coL. Was wondering the same before, but quantic disbanded and didn't play i guess. Walkovers? Nah, both matches were played, I just don't know the results. In other news, fuck me, today is a busy day. I'm watching four streams already and now IronSquid is starting, what the hell am I supposed to do? LiveZerg got this, maybe they still have a shot?
Depends on the map I think, HerO will have the pick so it's gonna be tough.
But really solid play from LiveZerg.
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Russian Federation210 Posts
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On December 17 2012 04:18 CrazyBirdman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 04:08 StarVe wrote:On December 17 2012 03:52 Sjokola wrote:On December 16 2012 22:45 StarVe wrote:
Zenio 2-1 TitaN
Taeja 2-0 fraer
HerO 2-1 LiveZerg
TLO 1-2 Pomi
Should be somewhat close, but Liquid has the clear advantage. I'll be happy if ROX just get second.
Titan has looked a bit weak recently, fraer's style isn't that good against Taeja I don't think, and HerO vs LiveZerg could go either way, but when in doubt, go with the Korean.
Strangely enough, Pomi might be the most clutch ROXKIS player at the moment. :D
And that's while he seems to mostly cast and doesn't play, what a guy.
To EG: Please update the results of the uncasted games from the groupstage on Liquipedia or at the very least on your site, I want to know who won in all those matches, especially ROX vs Quantic and ROX vs coL. Was wondering the same before, but quantic disbanded and didn't play i guess. Walkovers? Nah, both matches were played, I just don't know the results. In other news, fuck me, today is a busy day. I'm watching four streams already and now IronSquid is starting, what the hell am I supposed to do? LiveZerg got this, maybe they still have a shot? Depends on the map I think, HerO will have the pick so it's gonna be tough. But really solid play from LiveZerg.
Yeah, Ohana or Entombed could be tough. HerO managed to come back into the game, but I think LZ is going to kill him now.
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On December 17 2012 04:22 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 04:18 CrazyBirdman wrote:On December 17 2012 04:08 StarVe wrote:On December 17 2012 03:52 Sjokola wrote:On December 16 2012 22:45 StarVe wrote:
Zenio 2-1 TitaN
Taeja 2-0 fraer
HerO 2-1 LiveZerg
TLO 1-2 Pomi
Should be somewhat close, but Liquid has the clear advantage. I'll be happy if ROX just get second.
Titan has looked a bit weak recently, fraer's style isn't that good against Taeja I don't think, and HerO vs LiveZerg could go either way, but when in doubt, go with the Korean.
Strangely enough, Pomi might be the most clutch ROXKIS player at the moment. :D
And that's while he seems to mostly cast and doesn't play, what a guy.
To EG: Please update the results of the uncasted games from the groupstage on Liquipedia or at the very least on your site, I want to know who won in all those matches, especially ROX vs Quantic and ROX vs coL. Was wondering the same before, but quantic disbanded and didn't play i guess. Walkovers? Nah, both matches were played, I just don't know the results. In other news, fuck me, today is a busy day. I'm watching four streams already and now IronSquid is starting, what the hell am I supposed to do? LiveZerg got this, maybe they still have a shot? Depends on the map I think, HerO will have the pick so it's gonna be tough. But really solid play from LiveZerg. Yeah, Ohana or Entombed could be tough. HerO managed to come back into the game, but I think LZ is going to kill him now.
HerO always seems to hold on so long against Zerg even when it's seems hopeless. Very resilient player.
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what is going on with the stream ._.
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@Dgotto: I also think ROX can play way better, but TL is a bit out of their league at the moment. Not unbeatable, but I'd give them maybe 70-30 chances at winning.
Unfortunately Titan doesn't seem to be at his best this weekend, if he was playing great, ROX could win the whole thing.
I'm still confident they'll beat Acer if they drop down, though, especially with Nerchio's comments in the other thread.
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cant believe he survived for that long
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Cella! Playing SC2 rather than coaching, just i have to see to believe
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Russian Federation210 Posts
On December 17 2012 04:26 StarVe wrote:
@Dgotto: I also think ROX can play way better, but TL is a bit out of their league at the moment. Not unbeatable, but I'd give them maybe 70-30 chances at winning.
Unfortunately Titan doesn't seem to be at his best this weekend, if he was playing great, ROX could win the whole thing.
I'm still confident they'll beat Acer if they drop down, though, especially with Nerchio's comments in the other thread.
I think Rox could win Liquid if Titan played vs Taeja, Fraer vs Hero and LZ vs Zenio.Let's see, may be Rox take revenge
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On December 17 2012 04:49 Dgotto wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 04:26 StarVe wrote:
@Dgotto: I also think ROX can play way better, but TL is a bit out of their league at the moment. Not unbeatable, but I'd give them maybe 70-30 chances at winning.
Unfortunately Titan doesn't seem to be at his best this weekend, if he was playing great, ROX could win the whole thing.
I'm still confident they'll beat Acer if they drop down, though, especially with Nerchio's comments in the other thread. I think Rox could win Liquid if Titan played vs Taeja, Fraer vs Hero and LZ vs Zenio.Let's see, may be Rox take revenge
You're in pretty good company. 
On December 17 2012 01:16 StarVe wrote:
If the matchups were fraer vs HerO, TitaN vs Taeja, LZ vs TLO and Pomi vs Zenio, I'd give ROX a good shot.
Your way works as well.
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Its disappointing that Scarlett doesn't come out more often :\
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On December 17 2012 04:56 Dr.Sin wrote:
Its disappointing that Scarlett doesn't come out more often :\
Scheduling issues, according to Nerchio. Apparently they played all games for the finals this weekend and Scarlett wasn't available.
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CELLA IS PLAYING!? HOLY CHECK!!!!!
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On one hand, it's great to see Cella play, but I'm worried that Scarlett wasn't deployed again. With just MMA and Nerchio, the margin of error for Acer is small, and if one matchup doesn't go as planned, they are eliminated.
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On December 17 2012 04:55 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 04:49 Dgotto wrote:On December 17 2012 04:26 StarVe wrote:
@Dgotto: I also think ROX can play way better, but TL is a bit out of their league at the moment. Not unbeatable, but I'd give them maybe 70-30 chances at winning.
Unfortunately Titan doesn't seem to be at his best this weekend, if he was playing great, ROX could win the whole thing.
I'm still confident they'll beat Acer if they drop down, though, especially with Nerchio's comments in the other thread. I think Rox could win Liquid if Titan played vs Taeja, Fraer vs Hero and LZ vs Zenio.Let's see, may be Rox take revenge You're in pretty good company. Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 01:16 StarVe wrote:
If the matchups were fraer vs HerO, TitaN vs Taeja, LZ vs TLO and Pomi vs Zenio, I'd give ROX a good shot. Your way works as well.
That's a lot of "If"s
ROX has a very good chance of taking them down but now they already lost two times one time 1-3 now 0-3.
It just seems TL's manager are just really good at predicting the other teams lineup and HerO and TaeJa are just complete monsters in this league. And with Zenio stepping it up they have a third player who brings in the wins.
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On December 17 2012 05:01 CrazyBirdman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 04:55 StarVe wrote:On December 17 2012 04:49 Dgotto wrote:On December 17 2012 04:26 StarVe wrote:
@Dgotto: I also think ROX can play way better, but TL is a bit out of their league at the moment. Not unbeatable, but I'd give them maybe 70-30 chances at winning.
Unfortunately Titan doesn't seem to be at his best this weekend, if he was playing great, ROX could win the whole thing.
I'm still confident they'll beat Acer if they drop down, though, especially with Nerchio's comments in the other thread. I think Rox could win Liquid if Titan played vs Taeja, Fraer vs Hero and LZ vs Zenio.Let's see, may be Rox take revenge You're in pretty good company. On December 17 2012 01:16 StarVe wrote:
If the matchups were fraer vs HerO, TitaN vs Taeja, LZ vs TLO and Pomi vs Zenio, I'd give ROX a good shot. Your way works as well. That's a lot of "If"s ROX has a very good chance of taking them down but now they already lost two times one time 1-3 now 0-3. It just seems TL's manager are just really good at predicting the other teams lineup and HerO and TaeJa are just complete monsters in this league. And with Zenio stepping it up they have a third player who brings in the wins.
Eh, he won two matches now and lost countless times during the regular season, I wouldn't elevate him just yet to a player who "brings in the wins". Let him get a positive record first, chances are he's gonna start failing badly again in the Grand Finals.
Yeah, they're decent at predicting, but fraer and Titan also made a lot of mistakes in their games. I don't think they were unwinnable, it's just that TL players are a bit more experienced and clutch in these situations.
Liquid winning would of course be completely deserved, they didn't finish first in the group stage for nothing. But you've got to allow me to be a bit biased in favour of ROX.KIS, I just like them a lot.
And poor Cella, fraer is gonna destroy him.
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On December 17 2012 05:06 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 05:01 CrazyBirdman wrote:On December 17 2012 04:55 StarVe wrote:On December 17 2012 04:49 Dgotto wrote:On December 17 2012 04:26 StarVe wrote:
@Dgotto: I also think ROX can play way better, but TL is a bit out of their league at the moment. Not unbeatable, but I'd give them maybe 70-30 chances at winning.
Unfortunately Titan doesn't seem to be at his best this weekend, if he was playing great, ROX could win the whole thing.
I'm still confident they'll beat Acer if they drop down, though, especially with Nerchio's comments in the other thread. I think Rox could win Liquid if Titan played vs Taeja, Fraer vs Hero and LZ vs Zenio.Let's see, may be Rox take revenge You're in pretty good company. On December 17 2012 01:16 StarVe wrote:
If the matchups were fraer vs HerO, TitaN vs Taeja, LZ vs TLO and Pomi vs Zenio, I'd give ROX a good shot. Your way works as well. That's a lot of "If"s ROX has a very good chance of taking them down but now they already lost two times one time 1-3 now 0-3. It just seems TL's manager are just really good at predicting the other teams lineup and HerO and TaeJa are just complete monsters in this league. And with Zenio stepping it up they have a third player who brings in the wins. Eh, he won two matches now and lost countless times during the regular season, I wouldn't elevate him just yet to a player who "brings in the wins". Let him get a positive record first, chances are he's gonna start failing badly again in the Grand Finals. Yeah, they're decent at predicting, but fraer and Titan also made a lot of mistakes in their games. I don't think they were unwinnable, it's just that TL players are a bit more experienced and clutch in these situations.
I'm just saying TL has more depth than one would think and on top of that the two probably best players in the league.
3-0 was a bit too clear I admit but I would consider it an upset if ROX.KIS beats Liquid. Taking it to the ace match would be an achievement in its own. Top koreas just skew the balance between teams.
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Pretty BM of Acer to send out Cella.
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On December 17 2012 05:12 CrazyBirdman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 05:06 StarVe wrote:On December 17 2012 05:01 CrazyBirdman wrote:On December 17 2012 04:55 StarVe wrote:On December 17 2012 04:49 Dgotto wrote:On December 17 2012 04:26 StarVe wrote:
@Dgotto: I also think ROX can play way better, but TL is a bit out of their league at the moment. Not unbeatable, but I'd give them maybe 70-30 chances at winning.
Unfortunately Titan doesn't seem to be at his best this weekend, if he was playing great, ROX could win the whole thing.
I'm still confident they'll beat Acer if they drop down, though, especially with Nerchio's comments in the other thread. I think Rox could win Liquid if Titan played vs Taeja, Fraer vs Hero and LZ vs Zenio.Let's see, may be Rox take revenge You're in pretty good company. On December 17 2012 01:16 StarVe wrote:
If the matchups were fraer vs HerO, TitaN vs Taeja, LZ vs TLO and Pomi vs Zenio, I'd give ROX a good shot. Your way works as well. That's a lot of "If"s ROX has a very good chance of taking them down but now they already lost two times one time 1-3 now 0-3. It just seems TL's manager are just really good at predicting the other teams lineup and HerO and TaeJa are just complete monsters in this league. And with Zenio stepping it up they have a third player who brings in the wins. Eh, he won two matches now and lost countless times during the regular season, I wouldn't elevate him just yet to a player who "brings in the wins". Let him get a positive record first, chances are he's gonna start failing badly again in the Grand Finals. Yeah, they're decent at predicting, but fraer and Titan also made a lot of mistakes in their games. I don't think they were unwinnable, it's just that TL players are a bit more experienced and clutch in these situations. I'm just saying TL has more depth than one would think and on top of that the two probably best players in the league. 3-0 was a bit too clear I admit but I would consider it an upset if ROX.KIS beats Liquid. Taking it to the ace match would be an achievement in its own. Top koreas just skew the balance between teams.
For sure. But I think TLO is better than Zenio.
@Zinnwaldite: Come on, they obviously had no one else available...
Not their fault it was scheduled this weekend.
Poor Cella, utterly destroyed.
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Ouch, it really seems the scheduling hurt acer, Cella is a cool guy but this looked stupid.
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So nerchio, mma, and other must win!
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On December 17 2012 05:19 iAmJeffReY wrote:
So nerchio, mma, and other must win!
Poor Bly.... he ist just the "other" guy.
Edit: Cella with the good old nexus block with proxy hatch.
OK, fraer made it end quick, probably the best for everyone...
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Holy check that was brutal.
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I feel sorry for cella... 
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Did he lose more than that one zealot while taking out the spine crawler during the game?
It looked a bit like SaSe vs Najzmais. D:
LiveZerg should beat Bly and then hopefully Pomi will beat MMA, so we can end it quickly. :D
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Oh, they're allowed to hand-pick the lineups, then TL has basically already won.
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On December 17 2012 05:38 StarVe wrote:
Oh, they're allowed to hand-pick the lineups, then TL has basically already won.
Huh? Winners bracket are allowed to see the losers bracket lineup and adjust? Ô_Ô
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It's a shame that Acer did not deploy Scarlett, it may cost them twice against the same team.
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just out of curiousity: do they mean that the grand finals will be played at midnight or tomorrow at noon?
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On December 17 2012 05:50 Black Gun wrote:
just out of curiousity: do they mean that the grand finals will be played at midnight or tomorrow at noon?
According to OP it's should go down in 2 hours so I guess at midnight if you are in germany. Yesterday they had three series as well.
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On December 17 2012 05:45 ELA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 05:38 StarVe wrote:
Oh, they're allowed to hand-pick the lineups, then TL has basically already won. Huh? Winners bracket are allowed to see the losers bracket lineup and adjust? Ô_Ô
Yeah, that's what the casters said.
Assuming Rox win (they look like they will, being up 2-0 and all), I'd pick Taeja vs fraer, HerO vs Pomi, TLO vs TitaN and Zenio vs LZ if they don't send out Sea (who is probably better than Zenio in my opinion).
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Lol finally he realizes that Acer may not have had all players available.
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On December 17 2012 05:59 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 05:45 ELA wrote:On December 17 2012 05:38 StarVe wrote:
Oh, they're allowed to hand-pick the lineups, then TL has basically already won. Huh? Winners bracket are allowed to see the losers bracket lineup and adjust? Ô_Ô Yeah, that's what the casters said. Assuming Rox win (they look like they will, being up 2-0 and all), I'd pick Taeja vs fraer, HerO vs Pomi, TLO vs TitaN and Zenio vs LZ if they don't send out Sea (who is probably better than Zenio in my opinion).
Wow, thats pretty huge! It's going to be really hard for whatever team makes it through to the finals against Liquid then
I'd spend TaeJa on LiveZerg, HerO on Fraer and Sea vs. TitaN - TaeJa is not really looking that great vs. Protoss, but crushes nerds left and right in TvT and TvZ. HerO is PvT-gosu but his PvP is really really strong as well. Sea has really weird TvP, but it's really throwing opponents off - If you watch his stream, many a korean Protoss has been stomped, while Sea grins and cheers on the webcam.
He has a really entertaining stream btw, check it
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On December 17 2012 05:14 Zinnwaldite wrote:
Pretty BM of Acer to send out Cella.
Pretty BM to force us to play at a date, where we have only 2* players available + our coach Cella.
*Ninja edit since the match is over.
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On December 17 2012 06:06 ELA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 05:59 StarVe wrote:On December 17 2012 05:45 ELA wrote:On December 17 2012 05:38 StarVe wrote:
Oh, they're allowed to hand-pick the lineups, then TL has basically already won. Huh? Winners bracket are allowed to see the losers bracket lineup and adjust? Ô_Ô Yeah, that's what the casters said. Assuming Rox win (they look like they will, being up 2-0 and all), I'd pick Taeja vs fraer, HerO vs Pomi, TLO vs TitaN and Zenio vs LZ if they don't send out Sea (who is probably better than Zenio in my opinion). Wow, thats pretty huge! It's going to be really hard for whatever team makes it through to the finals against Liquid then I'd spend TaeJa on LiveZerg, HerO on Fraer and Sea vs. TitaN - TaeJa is not really looking that great vs. Protoss, but crushes nerds left and right in TvT and TvZ. HerO is PvT-gosu but his PvP is really really strong as well. Sea has really weird TvP, but it's really throwing opponents off - If you watch his stream, many a korean Protoss has been stomped, while Sea grins and cheers on the webcam. He has a really entertaining stream btw, check it
Careful now, it's still a bit too early to call it for Rox, since MMA and Nerchio have yet to play. If MMA and Nerchio have already played and lost, it would be a much different story, but right now the score isn't too surprising since fraer and LiveZerg were probably favored over their opponents.
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Hahaha, Pomi so clutch. :D
Casts more games than he plays but he's beating people like MMA, he's Choya 2.0.
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On December 17 2012 06:22 Acer.ParanOid wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 05:14 Zinnwaldite wrote:
Pretty BM of Acer to send out Cella. Pretty BM to force us to play at a date, where we have only 3 players available + our coach Cella.
Ouch. It did look like Cella wasn't in his top game.
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On December 16 2012 21:35 Serinox wrote:
Zenio 2-1 Titan
TaeJa 2-0 fraer
HerO 2-1 LiveZerg
TLO - Pomi not needed then
Nice !
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On December 17 2012 06:41 Dauntless wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2012 21:35 Serinox wrote:
Zenio 2-1 Titan
TaeJa 2-0 fraer
HerO 2-1 LiveZerg
TLO - Pomi not needed then Nice !
It isn't too hard to call TL winning, though, or Koreans beating foreigners. The other way round would be way more impressive.
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O_O that army movement...
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On December 17 2012 06:22 Acer.ParanOid wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 05:14 Zinnwaldite wrote:
Pretty BM of Acer to send out Cella. Pretty BM to force us to play at a date, where we have only 3 players available + our coach Cella.
How long was the notice then?
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It's casted from replays...
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Team ROX.KIS gogogo. Now enjoy getting matchup-sniped by Liquid in the finals!
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On December 17 2012 06:45 iNsaNe- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 06:22 Acer.ParanOid wrote:On December 17 2012 05:14 Zinnwaldite wrote:
Pretty BM of Acer to send out Cella. Pretty BM to force us to play at a date, where we have only 3 players available + our coach Cella. How long was the notice then?
Few hours? Certainly less than a day.
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So.. how is it being a rocket scientist?
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Casting Dimaga vs MarineKing while playing MCSL really helped him a lot.
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On December 17 2012 06:51 Acer.ParanOid wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 06:45 iNsaNe- wrote:On December 17 2012 06:22 Acer.ParanOid wrote:On December 17 2012 05:14 Zinnwaldite wrote:
Pretty BM of Acer to send out Cella. Pretty BM to force us to play at a date, where we have only 3 players available + our coach Cella. How long was the notice then? Few hours? Certainly less than a day.
Wow, that sucks
would have really loved to see Acer's best lineup vs. TL in the finals
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anything happening today?
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Lol 6:30 local time....... Can't hang on..... Must go to sleep..
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On December 17 2012 07:19 Finrod1 wrote:
anything happening today?
You missed it all.
Edit: Nvm, finals in 10 minutes.
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Oh, Zenio vs Pomi to start, not sure if that's a smart pick since I'll pick Pomi to win everything after the last game. Maybe it was necessary so they have three sure wins in the next games, Idk.
So Sea probably won't play here, too. Or maybe they picked him to snipe fraer since he already beat him in their group stage match.
On a side note, woohoo, ROX just won at least $3,000.
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LIVE NOW, GO POMI, MAKE JMORROW PROUD!
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Wow, Pomi beating MMA and Zenio all within one weekend.
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Demuslim doesnt know you should only bet in ESPORTS dollars
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DeMuslims co-caster has replaced his "actually" with "interesting" today - It grinds my ears every time I hear it now, damn it
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My god, Pomi's performance in this league... D:
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Fuck yeah, Pomi!
OMG, fraer vs HerO, I've always wanted to see that!
Don't understand Liquid's choice though. Even if HerO may be slightly favoured, fraer is so incredibly strong in PvP that it's a very risky move. He already beat Genius, ToD, Nightend and HasuObs in MCSL and didn't lose a match, a player is 8-1 in PvP and you send your best player and Protoss against him, can be genius or suicidal.
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If rox.kis wins this tournament I will actually be amazed, they're one up and got a pretty good shot at going two up.
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On December 17 2012 08:06 StarVe wrote:
Fuck yeah, Pomi!
OMG, fraer vs HerO, I've always wanted to see that!
Don't understand Liquid's choice though. Even if HerO may be slightly favoured, fraer is so incredibly strong in PvP that it's a very risky move. He already beat Genius, ToD, Nightend and HasuObs in MCSL and didn't lose a match, a player is 8-1 in PvP and you send your best player and Protoss against him, can be genius or suicidal.
Well, ROX.KIS kind of has lots of Protoss and you probably want TaeJa play versus the only Zerg.
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On December 17 2012 08:11 CrazyBirdman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 08:06 StarVe wrote:
Fuck yeah, Pomi!
OMG, fraer vs HerO, I've always wanted to see that!
Don't understand Liquid's choice though. Even if HerO may be slightly favoured, fraer is so incredibly strong in PvP that it's a very risky move. He already beat Genius, ToD, Nightend and HasuObs in MCSL and didn't lose a match, a player is 8-1 in PvP and you send your best player and Protoss against him, can be genius or suicidal. Well, ROX.KIS kind of has lots of Protoss and you probably want TaeJa play versus the only Zerg.
Any terran vs livezerg should be very good for liquid.
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Exciting!
I like the casting combo, pleasant to listen to.
Go TL!
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On December 17 2012 08:11 CrazyBirdman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 08:06 StarVe wrote:
Fuck yeah, Pomi!
OMG, fraer vs HerO, I've always wanted to see that!
Don't understand Liquid's choice though. Even if HerO may be slightly favoured, fraer is so incredibly strong in PvP that it's a very risky move. He already beat Genius, ToD, Nightend and HasuObs in MCSL and didn't lose a match, a player is 8-1 in PvP and you send your best player and Protoss against him, can be genius or suicidal. Well, ROX.KIS kind of has lots of Protoss and you probably want TaeJa play versus the only Zerg.
Sea vs fraer, Taeja vs LZ, HerO vs Pomi, TLO vs Titan. There, I won the MCSL for you!
fraer so good, playing great here! <3
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Really well played by fraer.
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Is it only the one best of 5 series being played for the Grand Finals? Or does ROX.KIS have to win two?
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On December 17 2012 08:25 TailsPrower wrote:
Is it only the one best of 5 series being played for the Grand Finals? Or does ROX.KIS have to win two?
One, Liquid got the advantage of seeing ROXKIS picks and being allowed to choose their own lineup afterwards so they could snipe all the players.
Didn't work too well so far.
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what is fraer talking about
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Fraer rocking the sickest pre-excuses ever
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On December 17 2012 08:27 GreyKnight wrote:
what is fraer talking about
Cold hands, parrot scream and stupid dogs, what more could possibly go wrong?
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On December 17 2012 08:28 StarVe wrote:Cold hands, parrot scream and stupid dogs, what more could possibly go wrong?
He'll win anyway, he draws power from angry animals
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Oh shit, fuck, SG vs robo. T_T
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TL got to pick their matchups, and yet they did this so far? What were they thinking?
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On December 17 2012 08:32 Dexington wrote:
TL got to pick their matchups, and yet they did this so far? What were they thinking?
Hero into fraer is still so strange to me, that's a dream for rox.kis.
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I think Fraer will win this now, this will probably come down to micro.
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this is actually kind of interesting...
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On December 17 2012 08:37 Eee wrote:
I think Fraer will win this now, this will probably come down to micro.
Hero isn't exactly bad at micro. ^^
Not sure that favours fraer so much. HerO has everything faster, faster upgrades, faster second robo, faster charge, even when taking thirds, ahead in probes.
He's a bit ahead.
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this pvp is kind of boring :-/
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A big PvP fight and the game isn't over, what sorcery is this?
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On December 17 2012 08:44 Grend wrote:
this pvp is kind of boring :-/
this pvp is actually kind of boring
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"im not sure who is gonna win this. it actually looks like hero is dominating" ~~
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Fraer is actually playing pretty great.
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Fraer's pvp is so baller.
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lol hilariously sloppy game...
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Dat engagement... his own Vortex working against fraer.
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What is going on? I just don't understand...
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On December 17 2012 08:50 GreyKnight wrote:
lol hilariously sloppy game...
Agreed.
Even match, but lots of silly errors.
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Oh god fucking damn it. fraer kinda outplayed HerO all game long and then he fucks up in the big fight although he has the mothership advantage. T_T
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Who is this guy casting? Where is Azael? T__T
Ah, JMorrow apparently
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Crazy game, loved how the Archons and Immortals that came out of the vortex started annihilating the colossi.
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On December 17 2012 08:53 Dexington wrote:
Who is this guy casting? Where is Azael? T__T
As you can see in the OP, it's Jmorrow. Azael moved back to Canada.
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Glad that match is finally over, hope next game will be better
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On December 17 2012 08:51 Kyir wrote:
What is going on? I just don't understand...
Turns out if suddenly 5 Immortals and 5 Archons appear before your unprotected Colossus arma you die pretty fast.
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Too close hero, too close. So scary. Dominate all game and almost lose to basically just DTs.
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On December 17 2012 08:54 fire_brand wrote:
Too close hero, too close. So scary. Dominate all game and almost lose to basically just DTs.
HerO kind of got outplayed with all the harrass but took the 2 mainfights better in the end
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oh wow this league is still happening
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No matter how this goes, I think Liquid cut this way too close with the matchups, fraer could have easily won this last game and no one could have complained. Now he even gets another chance. No way putting HerO against fraer was a good idea.
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Such a sick defense by Hero!
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Holy shit, that was nice by HerO.
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Well, HerO is winning, but I'm confident fraer could win their next encounter. He still made a lot of mistakes he can easily fix.
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Taeja vs livezerg, yikes this won't be pretty.
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Kind of embarrassing loss for Fraer, double stargate?!
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On December 17 2012 09:08 StarVe wrote:
Well, HerO is winning, but I'm confident fraer could win their next encounter. He still made a lot of mistakes he can easily fix.
Could is the important word here 
I completely stand by my call to have HerO play P as opposed to a Z
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At least they picked Taeja vs LiveZerg, which leaves Titan vs TLO. These two I do agree with. GG ROXKIS, congrats on second place!
On December 17 2012 09:10 ELA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 09:08 StarVe wrote:
Well, HerO is winning, but I'm confident fraer could win their next encounter. He still made a lot of mistakes he can easily fix. Could is the important word here I completely stand by my call to have HerO play P as opposed to a Z
Just schedule him against Pomi, he's weaker in PvP and so that's basically a more certain win. fraer was damn close to beating HerO, if he didn't fuck up in the fight with his mothership, he would have won. Don't count on your opponent fucking up if you want to win.
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On December 17 2012 09:09 Grend wrote:
Kind of embarrassing loss for Fraer, double stargate?!
in the spirit of Manzenith
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Damn ROX is good. Didn´t know that. I knew fraer was decent but that they have more players like him is impressive.
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On December 17 2012 08:53 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 08:53 Dexington wrote:
Who is this guy casting? Where is Azael? T__T As you can see in the OP, it's Jmorrow. Azael moved back to Canada.
Ugh, what's this? No more Azael casting for MSCL?? Fuck, he was one of the reasons I enjoyed this tournament so much. Perfect combo with Inc.
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On December 17 2012 09:10 StarVe wrote:At least they picked Taeja vs LiveZerg, which leaves Titan vs TLO. These two I do agree with. GG ROXKIS, congrats on second place! Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 09:10 ELA wrote:On December 17 2012 09:08 StarVe wrote:
Well, HerO is winning, but I'm confident fraer could win their next encounter. He still made a lot of mistakes he can easily fix. Could is the important word here I completely stand by my call to have HerO play P as opposed to a Z Just schedule him against Pomi, he's weaker in PvP and so that's basically a more certain win. fraer was damn close to beating HerO, if he didn't fuck up in the fight with his mothership, he would have won. Don't count on your opponent fucking up if you want to win.
don't count on your opponent not making many observers so you can take bad fights and warp in DTs?
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On December 17 2012 09:10 StarVe wrote:At least they picked Taeja vs LiveZerg, which leaves Titan vs TLO. These two I do agree with. GG ROXKIS, congrats on second place! Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 09:10 ELA wrote:On December 17 2012 09:08 StarVe wrote:
Well, HerO is winning, but I'm confident fraer could win their next encounter. He still made a lot of mistakes he can easily fix. Could is the important word here I completely stand by my call to have HerO play P as opposed to a Z Just schedule him against Pomi, he's weaker in PvP and so that's basically a more certain win. fraer was damn close to beating HerO, if he didn't fuck up in the fight with his mothership, he would have won. Don't count on your opponent fucking up if you want to win.
Oh, but on the contrary - Everyone fucks up, it's about taking advantage of your opponent when it happens which matters.
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On December 17 2012 09:14 AlgeriaT wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 08:53 StarVe wrote:On December 17 2012 08:53 Dexington wrote:
Who is this guy casting? Where is Azael? T__T As you can see in the OP, it's Jmorrow. Azael moved back to Canada. Ugh, what's this? No more Azael casting for MSCL?? Fuck, he was one of the reasons I enjoyed this tournament so much. Perfect combo with Inc.
Isaac CB @EGazael
Moving back to Canada today! Enjoyed my time in Phoenix and will miss everyone there but also excited to be going home
2 Dec Jacob Toft-Andersen @TheMaelk
@EGazael Why are u moving back?
2 Dec Isaac CB @EGazael
@TheMaelk moving back for now since contracts are ending and then I'll figure out what I want to do for next year ^^
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Taeja macroing hard :/
edit: Pushing in at 200/200 long before Zerg.
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Jmorrow, stop being so hectic with the camera ops, we're getting seasick...
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You just wait until they switch out their former player ROX.KIS.LiveZerg with their new ace ROX.KIS.HiveZerg.
Then Liquid no longer has a chance!
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Ugh, LiveZerg's Infestor control is really sloppy. Threw away all his Infestors twice.
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Taeja is just on another level. Terran has to do sooo much. Once that BL-Infestor was pushed out of teh 3rd area, Taeja just took over.
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BC + Raven just so good when it finally happens.
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Pretty dominating performance by Taeja
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Not the best control from LiveZerg that game, but the fact that Taeja was able to hold off that big push and then come back was really impressive.
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I liked Azael, I hope he sticks with progaming and EG. Its unfortunate that considering all the work he did for the MCSL that he didn't cast the finals.
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Funny how Testbug was taken out of map pools because it was too Zerg favored, and this Whirlwind map is like Testbug on steroids. Love it!
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On December 17 2012 09:46 GulpyBlinkeyes wrote:
Not the best control from LiveZerg that game, but the fact that Taeja was able to hold off that big push and then come back was really impressive.
Mm, I think LiveZerg played a little like he was intimidated though - Blindly building 5 Spores because he scouted 4 hellions, having army at all of his expansions at almost all times, which cost him greatly when TaeJa moved and so on.
It was a fun game, and I can watch TaeJa play vZ all day, it's just so solid
Objectively, I don't think this was the best game from either party - It was entertaining though!!
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Raven is pretty good on metropolis in a split-map scenario. But it has little other uses.
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Ow, Entombed. Taeja going to 2rax?
Yeah, this will end quickly. LiveZerg isn't very good at holding it.
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On December 17 2012 09:50 ELA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 09:46 GulpyBlinkeyes wrote:
Not the best control from LiveZerg that game, but the fact that Taeja was able to hold off that big push and then come back was really impressive. Mm, I think LiveZerg played a little like he was intimidated though - Blindly building 5 Spores because he scouted 4 hellions, having army at all of his expansions at almost all times, which cost him greatly when TaeJa moved and so on. It was a fun game, and I can watch TaeJa play vZ all day, it's just so solid Objectively, I don't think this was the best game from either party - It was entertaining though!!
Yeah, that game was really entertaining for sure! Some people trash games and say they're not worth watching if someone makes a mistake, but I actually think games are often more fun when one or both players slips up here and there. How often do you get to see a crazy comeback against the infestor/BL ball with mass BCs and ravens? I'm all for it!
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Yay Taeja, always like to see cool aggressive plays opposed to those long macro games that always work the same everyone seems to like ^__^
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Is 1080p+ skipping video primarily in major engagements for anybody else tonight?
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On December 17 2012 10:06 Proseat wrote:
Is 1080p+ skipping video primarily in major engagements for anybody else tonight?
Twitch high-res has been skipping for me the last couple of days on all streams. Normally it's very smooth.
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Who won between Taeja vs. LiveZerg? I stepped away for a bit and now it is TLO playing.
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On December 17 2012 10:16 bsdaemon wrote:
Who won between Taeja vs. LiveZerg? I stepped away for a bit and now it is TLO playing.
see OP
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stream keeps freezing every few seconds T_T
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lol? the guy who cant handle pressure is sent to safe the tournament for TL?
some weak decisions by the coach. also everybody could expect that zenio was the starter. thats why sending pomi first was a nice move by rox
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On December 17 2012 10:19 Digitalis wrote:
stream keeps freezing every few seconds T_T
Ah, thought it was my connection but apparently not. And it doesn't seem to make a difference if I choose 240p or 1080+, so it's probably on their end.
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On December 17 2012 10:20 TKK wrote:
lol? the guy who cant handle pressure is sent to safe the tournament for TL?
some weak decisions by the coach. also everybody could expect that zenio was the starter. thats why sending pomi first was a nice move by rox
never mind. thought that hero lost...
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Very bad stream right now, yeah same amount of lag at 240p as on 1080p. Must be something on their end.
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This lag is killing me... during what could possibly be the last series of the finals now too ;_;
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On December 17 2012 10:27 Sated wrote:
This stream is so trash right now T_T
Wonder what happened, it was fine for a long time before this game started...
Yep, super choppy for me now as well on all resolutions; was fine up until now on 1080p
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On December 17 2012 10:20 TKK wrote:
lol? the guy who cant handle pressure is sent to safe the tournament for TL?
some weak decisions by the coach. also everybody could expect that zenio was the starter. thats why sending pomi first was a nice move by rox
ROX came from the LB so they put their players first and TL decided who they sent against them...
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I wanna watch so bad
but it keeps
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this guy really needs to stop using the the word misrally. im sorry, but roaches that are cut off with forcefields are not misrallied roaches -_-
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WHY IS THERE AN AD RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ENGAGEMENT
I MISSED THE END OF THE GAME, WHAT THE FUCK
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lol got an ad right before the big engagement -.-
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What a terrible engagement.
Good night, twitch is acting up.
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Ad into postgame analysis.. -.-
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On December 17 2012 10:35 KingPaddy wrote:
Ad into postgame analysis.. -.-
yup for me too
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The lag messed up the delay, so it looked as if there was a an ad played on top of the battle when your stream was just way behind. Refreshing it puts it back to where it's suppose to be.
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what happened, the second game started and the game had already progressed
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On December 17 2012 10:34 DinosaurJones wrote:
WHY IS THERE AN AD RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ENGAGEMENT
I MISSED THE END OF THE GAME, WHAT THE FUCK
You will now incur the wrath of Dinosaur Jones.
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I'm sure they ran the ad at the normal time after the game, but since the stream was lagging, it appeared early. It's because the twitch player doesn't know what time you are at in the stream and just shows the ad as soon as possible rather than waiting for your client to catch up to the time where the ad was supposed to be inserted.
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On December 17 2012 10:43 DamnCats wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2012 10:34 DinosaurJones wrote:
WHY IS THERE AN AD RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ENGAGEMENT
I MISSED THE END OF THE GAME, WHAT THE FUCK You will now incur the wrath of Dinosaur Jones.
I can't decide if that sounds intimidating or not
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titan misrallied his cat5
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Russian Federation210 Posts
sad disconnect from titan=(
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Oh Titan that is so painful to see
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Titan making some really silly misstakes right there, might even make him lose due to late warp gate and such
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Argh, stream is unwatchable.
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Hmmm... as glad as I am that Liquid won and as glad as I am that it was TLO who came through in the clutch, I feel that it was way more Titan losing that series than it was TLO winning it.
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Congrats to TL!
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Well played by both teams.
EDIT: i think there is a re-broadcast so....
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Congrats Liquid for another team league title! Now show you can do it in Proleague as well!
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grats TL
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congrats TL! :D
Year of Liquid continues!
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TL won this really Titan just need to understand that he have lost
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Sick good. TLO is good and yay for teamliquid.
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TLO finishes it off in a TLO fashion. GG. gratz TL
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Awesome stuff TLO! Congratz to liquid!
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GG TeamLiquid! Some very entertaining games!
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Finally I see TLO winning a clutch game even though Titan made a few mistakes. I`m only sad that Sea didn`t get a chance to shine.
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Congrats! So nice to see TLO out there doing his thing. GG's all around.
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gj and grats to Liquid'!!~
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37003 Posts
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Yes! Liquid! I didn't get to catch the final match but I'm very happy you won ^_^
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Where can i find VODs of the grand final?
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Russian Federation210 Posts
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EPT
