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Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
December 16 2012 08:31 GMT
#1721
Ahh ok, so you can avoid various racial map imbalance to a degree in this here competition.

Cheers fellas
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50389 Posts
December 16 2012 08:31 GMT
#1722
On December 16 2012 17:29 Goibon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 17:27 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:25 Belha wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:23 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:22 K3Nyy wrote:
The maps look really good. Why are you guys complaining wanting to see 200/200 turtlefest games with 1 giant engagement? At least here we can see a little more action with harass and small engagements.


Uh, Arkanoid is basically a NR20 map so it's like the opposite of what you say

This.

But i agree that the other maps are refreshing. Arkanioid is a cute map that simply suck in Sc2 because the map-related race imbalance.


not every map has to be good for every race, and just because it is does not make it a bad map.

When teams pick players, do they know the map before they pick the player?


yes they do.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
December 16 2012 08:31 GMT
#1723
Poll: The new Kespa maps...

Thumbs up (63)
 
86%

Thumbs down (5)
 
7%

No thumbs (5)
 
7%

73 total votes

Your vote: The new Kespa maps...

(Vote): Thumbs up
(Vote): Thumbs down
(Vote): No thumbs


MMA: The true King of Wings
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 16 2012 08:31 GMT
#1724
Enter the HerO.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 16 2012 08:31 GMT
#1725
On December 16 2012 17:30 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 17:27 soulist wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:26 coasts wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:25 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:24 coasts wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:22 mambar wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:21 coasts wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:19 TommyP wrote:
Well at least EGTL is going to win the next two, but the foreigner losses make me sad.

JYP beating Effort? This is probably going to an ace match.

yeah cuz JYP is famous for having bad pvz

Is he actually famous for bad pvz? or are you being sarcastic? I can't tell just cause it is internets.

He's being sarcastic. JYP had the highest win rate in PvZ in GSL/GSTL for like several months

Oh, cool. But JYP is kinda bad now.


How is he bad? He made it into the ro16 in the previous GSL and was a pretty significant factor to SlayerS making it to the finals of GSTL.

also his only PvZ losses recently are to Code S zergs: Life (GSL Champ), HyuN (GSL Runner up), and a bo1 to BBoongBBoong (who appears to have learned how to play ZvP these days recently beating Seed, Crank, JYP, among outhers). EffOrt looked pretty bad last week. JYP definitely has a chance

and 5-1 to leenock
http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/players/999-jyp
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Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1956 Posts
December 16 2012 08:31 GMT
#1726
On December 16 2012 17:30 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 17:26 coasts wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:25 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:24 coasts wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:22 mambar wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:21 coasts wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:19 TommyP wrote:
Well at least EGTL is going to win the next two, but the foreigner losses make me sad.

JYP beating Effort? This is probably going to an ace match.

yeah cuz JYP is famous for having bad pvz

Is he actually famous for bad pvz? or are you being sarcastic? I can't tell just cause it is internets.

He's being sarcastic. JYP had the highest win rate in PvZ in GSL/GSTL for like several months

Oh, cool. But JYP is kinda bad now.


I prefer him over PuMa.

Lol yeah but that's cause Puma ain't so great anymore, not cause JYP became way better. At least that's what I think.
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
December 16 2012 08:32 GMT
#1727
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foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2333 Posts
December 16 2012 08:32 GMT
#1728
On December 16 2012 17:28 monkybone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 17:27 aRyuujin wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:26 monkybone wrote:
A good map is a map where the metagame is allowed to play out. This is not a good map.


maps make the metagame
metagame shouldn't make the maps


Metagame does make the maps. And differences should be subtle.

New wonky maps throw strategies out the window, and everything is reduced to gimmicks. As long as there is no metagame, there is no strategic depth.


Just because your sub par foreigners can't prepare and adapt doesn't mean a map shouldn't be played. This is how PL has always been, maps in fact add to the strategic depth.
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
December 16 2012 08:32 GMT
#1729
On December 16 2012 17:31 aRyuujin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 17:30 coasts wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:27 soulist wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:26 coasts wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:25 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:24 coasts wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:22 mambar wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:21 coasts wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:19 TommyP wrote:
Well at least EGTL is going to win the next two, but the foreigner losses make me sad.

JYP beating Effort? This is probably going to an ace match.

yeah cuz JYP is famous for having bad pvz

Is he actually famous for bad pvz? or are you being sarcastic? I can't tell just cause it is internets.

He's being sarcastic. JYP had the highest win rate in PvZ in GSL/GSTL for like several months

Oh, cool. But JYP is kinda bad now.


How is he bad? He made it into the ro16 in the previous GSL and was a pretty significant factor to SlayerS making it to the finals of GSTL.

Okay, maybe I'm wrong then. But he's not as good as he used to be.


I don't think he ever made it past RO16?
He's only getting better every season lol


He never made it past ro16 but he made it into the ro16 but lost to marine king and mvp while he won against curious.
Evil Geniuses<3
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
December 16 2012 08:32 GMT
#1730
hmmm PvZ...wonder what we'll see
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50389 Posts
December 16 2012 08:33 GMT
#1731
On December 16 2012 17:31 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Poll: The new Kespa maps...

Thumbs up (63)
 
86%

Thumbs down (5)
 
7%

No thumbs (5)
 
7%

73 total votes

Your vote: The new Kespa maps...

(Vote): Thumbs up
(Vote): Thumbs down
(Vote): No thumbs




if you're gonna over make polls in every LR thread at least make them funny.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
December 16 2012 08:33 GMT
#1732
On December 16 2012 17:31 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Poll: The new Kespa maps...

Thumbs up (63)
 
86%

Thumbs down (5)
 
7%

No thumbs (5)
 
7%

73 total votes

Your vote: The new Kespa maps...

(Vote): Thumbs up
(Vote): Thumbs down
(Vote): No thumbs




Best part about Proleague is the new maps. SC2 boys like to see every map being big and having 3 easy bases. They seem to not understand the old kespa model of micro / macro / gimmick maps. Macro being a big map (CK / daybreak, any base with 3 easy bases) , micro maps being smaller and less bases (Bifrost) and gimmick maps (arkanoid)
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25658 Posts
December 16 2012 08:33 GMT
#1733
On December 16 2012 17:31 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 17:30 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:27 soulist wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:26 coasts wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:25 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:24 coasts wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:22 mambar wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:21 coasts wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:19 TommyP wrote:
Well at least EGTL is going to win the next two, but the foreigner losses make me sad.

JYP beating Effort? This is probably going to an ace match.

yeah cuz JYP is famous for having bad pvz

Is he actually famous for bad pvz? or are you being sarcastic? I can't tell just cause it is internets.

He's being sarcastic. JYP had the highest win rate in PvZ in GSL/GSTL for like several months

Oh, cool. But JYP is kinda bad now.


How is he bad? He made it into the ro16 in the previous GSL and was a pretty significant factor to SlayerS making it to the finals of GSTL.

also his only PvZ losses recently are to Code S zergs: Life (GSL Champ), HyuN (GSL Runner up), and a bo1 to BBoongBBoong (who appears to have learned how to play ZvP these days recently beating Seed, Crank, JYP, among outhers). EffOrt looked pretty bad last week. JYP definitely has a chance

and 5-1 to leenock
http://www.sc2charts.net/en/edb/players/999-jyp

Leenock is pretty good if I recall correctly

JYP and HerO were absolute PvZ monsters back in the day, indeed they both kind of invented that warp-prism style in conjunction with each other. They're definitely practice partners going way back, so it's nice to see them reunited. Though PvZ has moved to not favour their strengths, they're still pretty potent in the matchup.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Wunder
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2950 Posts
December 16 2012 08:33 GMT
#1734
lolHerO
Writer@joonjoewong
StaplerPhone
Profile Joined March 2011
United States813 Posts
December 16 2012 08:33 GMT
#1735
HerO certified badass
NaDa | MC | HerO | DeMusliM | TaeJa | viOLet
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
December 16 2012 08:34 GMT
#1736
Ok, if Hero lose this, TL-EG is fucked. Gogo Hero!!
Chicken gank op
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
December 16 2012 08:34 GMT
#1737
On December 16 2012 17:30 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 17:27 aRyuujin wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:26 monkybone wrote:
A good map is a map where the metagame is allowed to play out. This is not a good map.


maps make the metagame
metagame shouldn't make the maps

NO! THE GAME MUST NEVER CHANGE! FRESH STRATEGIES ARE BAD! IN FACT WE SHOULD PLAY EVERY GAME ON DAYBREAK!

this man knows what he's talking about.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
December 16 2012 08:34 GMT
#1738
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 16 2012 08:34 GMT
#1739
On December 16 2012 17:31 coasts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 17:30 StarStruck wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:26 coasts wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:25 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:24 coasts wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:22 mambar wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:21 coasts wrote:
On December 16 2012 17:19 TommyP wrote:
Well at least EGTL is going to win the next two, but the foreigner losses make me sad.

JYP beating Effort? This is probably going to an ace match.

yeah cuz JYP is famous for having bad pvz

Is he actually famous for bad pvz? or are you being sarcastic? I can't tell just cause it is internets.

He's being sarcastic. JYP had the highest win rate in PvZ in GSL/GSTL for like several months

Oh, cool. But JYP is kinda bad now.


I prefer him over PuMa.

Lol yeah but that's cause Puma ain't so great anymore, not cause JYP became way better. At least that's what I think.


and exactly how many players would fit that category? The vast majority. JYP results have been better over the last while. JYP has stepped it up a notch. It might be a very small notch, but we're seeing his results improve nonetheless.
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
December 16 2012 08:34 GMT
#1740
On December 16 2012 17:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 17:31 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Poll: The new Kespa maps...

Thumbs up (63)
 
86%

Thumbs down (5)
 
7%

No thumbs (5)
 
7%

73 total votes

Your vote: The new Kespa maps...

(Vote): Thumbs up
(Vote): Thumbs down
(Vote): No thumbs




if you're gonna over make polls in every LR thread at least make them funny.


I make them to put an end to long running discussions in LR. Put it to a vote.
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