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Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
December 08 2012 09:02 GMT
#1041
FXO is a great team
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
December 08 2012 09:10 GMT
#1042
Somebody make a gif of that Reaper dying in mid air already, I'm not going to let that game fall out of our collective memories.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 09:17:33
December 08 2012 09:13 GMT
#1043
On December 08 2012 17:50 Chill Penguin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 17:50 FXOUnstable wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:48 Maloreon wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:44 opterown wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:44 Chill Penguin wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:40 Looms wrote:
^^ and a big RAISE! :D


Use some of the winnings to give Gumi a shot at an MLG. I can see him tearing it up in that format.

iirc gumi has been offered multiple times but he prefers to stay in KR?


You are right. I remember the same discussion after last finals (when he all-killed). Dude is obviously improving and prospering too - one can hardly blame him. I'd love to see him at a foreign event sometime though.


Gumiho refuses to go to international events until he wins GSL I have tried to make him go but he wants to prove himself in korea first


What a boss. Much respect for the Gumibear.


Respect? I think it's kind of a silly reason and just hurts him financially. Imagine if all KRs had that attitude then there would only be a handful of krs at international events since mvp/nestea/mc won most of them. Leenock may be younger, but he's definitely smarter of the two.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
FXOUnstable
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia159 Posts
December 08 2012 09:20 GMT
#1044
On December 08 2012 18:13 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 17:50 Chill Penguin wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:50 FXOUnstable wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:48 Maloreon wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:44 opterown wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:44 Chill Penguin wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:40 Looms wrote:
^^ and a big RAISE! :D


Use some of the winnings to give Gumi a shot at an MLG. I can see him tearing it up in that format.

iirc gumi has been offered multiple times but he prefers to stay in KR?


You are right. I remember the same discussion after last finals (when he all-killed). Dude is obviously improving and prospering too - one can hardly blame him. I'd love to see him at a foreign event sometime though.


Gumiho refuses to go to international events until he wins GSL I have tried to make him go but he wants to prove himself in korea first


What a boss. Much respect for the Gumibear.


Respect? I think it's kind of a silly reason and just hurts him financially. Imagine if all KRs had that attitude then there would only be a handful of krs at international events since mvp/nestea/mc won most of them. Leenock may be younger, but he's definitely smarter of the two.


If your only in it for the money sure, Gumiho is in it to be the best and has everything he would ever need.
FXOUnstable
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
December 08 2012 09:27 GMT
#1045
On December 08 2012 18:20 FXOUnstable wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 18:13 Canucklehead wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:50 Chill Penguin wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:50 FXOUnstable wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:48 Maloreon wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:44 opterown wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:44 Chill Penguin wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:40 Looms wrote:
^^ and a big RAISE! :D


Use some of the winnings to give Gumi a shot at an MLG. I can see him tearing it up in that format.

iirc gumi has been offered multiple times but he prefers to stay in KR?


You are right. I remember the same discussion after last finals (when he all-killed). Dude is obviously improving and prospering too - one can hardly blame him. I'd love to see him at a foreign event sometime though.


Gumiho refuses to go to international events until he wins GSL I have tried to make him go but he wants to prove himself in korea first


What a boss. Much respect for the Gumibear.


Respect? I think it's kind of a silly reason and just hurts him financially. Imagine if all KRs had that attitude then there would only be a handful of krs at international events since mvp/nestea/mc won most of them. Leenock may be younger, but he's definitely smarter of the two.


If your only in it for the money sure, Gumiho is in it to be the best and has everything he would ever need.


Pro-gaming has a limited shelf life as a career, so you should try to earn as much money at it while you can. I'm not saying you have to be only about the money like stephano. You can find a balance. It's not like gumiho is earning a large salary. Also, winning GSL doesn't necessarily make you the best as no one is calling sniper the best currently.

Obviously, you can't force gumiho to go to foreign tourneys, but it's not something I agree with, so certainly won't give him props for his decision. There are tons of KRs who would kill at the chance to go to foreign tourneys, so I just find it weird for him to turn them down.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
December 08 2012 09:32 GMT
#1046
On December 08 2012 18:27 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 18:20 FXOUnstable wrote:
On December 08 2012 18:13 Canucklehead wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:50 Chill Penguin wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:50 FXOUnstable wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:48 Maloreon wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:44 opterown wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:44 Chill Penguin wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:40 Looms wrote:
^^ and a big RAISE! :D


Use some of the winnings to give Gumi a shot at an MLG. I can see him tearing it up in that format.

iirc gumi has been offered multiple times but he prefers to stay in KR?


You are right. I remember the same discussion after last finals (when he all-killed). Dude is obviously improving and prospering too - one can hardly blame him. I'd love to see him at a foreign event sometime though.


Gumiho refuses to go to international events until he wins GSL I have tried to make him go but he wants to prove himself in korea first


What a boss. Much respect for the Gumibear.


Respect? I think it's kind of a silly reason and just hurts him financially. Imagine if all KRs had that attitude then there would only be a handful of krs at international events since mvp/nestea/mc won most of them. Leenock may be younger, but he's definitely smarter of the two.


If your only in it for the money sure, Gumiho is in it to be the best and has everything he would ever need.


Pro-gaming has a limited shelf life as a career, so you should try to earn as much money at it while you can. I'm not saying you have to be only about the money like stephano. You can find a balance. It's not like gumiho is earning a large salary. Also, winning GSL doesn't necessarily make you the best as no one is calling sniper the best currently.

Obviously, you can't force gumiho to go to foreign tourneys, but it's not something I agree with, so certainly won't give him props for his decision. There are tons of KRs who would kill at the chance to go to foreign tourneys, so I just find it weird for him to turn them down.


At the same time you have to wonder if that is a flawed plan... you get into this game to prove you are the best (rare exception of Stephano who somehow thinks gaming is a good way to earn money, ummmm no)... why spend all this time winning smaller tournaments no one will remember you in the near future (seriously some of the "big money winners" of 2010, 2011 are already being forgotten). Gumiho has a good plan and its clearly working: he's dominating what matters. All I want to see from him now is a GSL championship and I'll be happy. I can personally respect the player who makes themselves into a legend over the player who makes a quick buck. Of course those don't have to be mutually exclusive - but I think sometimes they are (especially when mass traveling is involved).
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
FXOTheoRy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States519 Posts
December 08 2012 09:37 GMT
#1047
gumiho sooooooo gosu!
oyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoyoy
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 09:59:07
December 08 2012 09:46 GMT
#1048
On December 08 2012 18:32 Maloreon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 18:27 Canucklehead wrote:
On December 08 2012 18:20 FXOUnstable wrote:
On December 08 2012 18:13 Canucklehead wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:50 Chill Penguin wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:50 FXOUnstable wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:48 Maloreon wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:44 opterown wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:44 Chill Penguin wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:40 Looms wrote:
^^ and a big RAISE! :D


Use some of the winnings to give Gumi a shot at an MLG. I can see him tearing it up in that format.

iirc gumi has been offered multiple times but he prefers to stay in KR?


You are right. I remember the same discussion after last finals (when he all-killed). Dude is obviously improving and prospering too - one can hardly blame him. I'd love to see him at a foreign event sometime though.


Gumiho refuses to go to international events until he wins GSL I have tried to make him go but he wants to prove himself in korea first


What a boss. Much respect for the Gumibear.


Respect? I think it's kind of a silly reason and just hurts him financially. Imagine if all KRs had that attitude then there would only be a handful of krs at international events since mvp/nestea/mc won most of them. Leenock may be younger, but he's definitely smarter of the two.


If your only in it for the money sure, Gumiho is in it to be the best and has everything he would ever need.


Pro-gaming has a limited shelf life as a career, so you should try to earn as much money at it while you can. I'm not saying you have to be only about the money like stephano. You can find a balance. It's not like gumiho is earning a large salary. Also, winning GSL doesn't necessarily make you the best as no one is calling sniper the best currently.

Obviously, you can't force gumiho to go to foreign tourneys, but it's not something I agree with, so certainly won't give him props for his decision. There are tons of KRs who would kill at the chance to go to foreign tourneys, so I just find it weird for him to turn them down.


I can personally respect the player who makes themselves into a legend over the player who makes a quick buck. Of course those don't have to be mutually exclusive - but I think sometimes they are (especially when mass traveling is involved).


This is where we disagree. I don't think they're mutually exclusive at all. I'm not saying he has to mass travel like MC, but going to an MLG, IPL or 2 a year is not going to diminish someone's practice schedule that much. I don't think a single GSL championship makes you a legend.

Consistency is what makes you a legend and that can also be done without a GSL championship as long as you're playing well in multiple tournaments and GSL. There are tons of non GSL champions regarded highly and not winning a GSL yet doesn't diminish their skill level or reputation. A GSL championship would enhance their rep, but they don't need one as validation of being a good player.

I just don't agree with the attitude that GSL is the be all end all, even though I regard it highly as well. You can just as easily end up as a fruitdealer, jjakji, seed, or sniper (yet to be seen) as you can an MVP, nestea, mc. Plus even though nestea/mc have won multiple GSLs, their current forms aren't as good as they were in the past, so even winning multiple GSLs doesn't keep your reputation forever. I have more respect for someone who tries to conquer both the KR scene and foreign scene because I think that makes them more of a legend, like Leenock!
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
December 08 2012 09:48 GMT
#1049
MVP was cursed by beating TSL in the semis. Nothing to see here.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 08 2012 09:50 GMT
#1050
maybe FXO is paying guminock near-PL level salaries, in which case I think it's fine for gumi to chill in korea and rip up the team leagues :p doubt it though, although i would think they're paid pretty well
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FXOUnstable
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia159 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 09:52:37
December 08 2012 09:50 GMT
#1051
On December 08 2012 18:27 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 18:20 FXOUnstable wrote:
On December 08 2012 18:13 Canucklehead wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:50 Chill Penguin wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:50 FXOUnstable wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:48 Maloreon wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:44 opterown wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:44 Chill Penguin wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:40 Looms wrote:
^^ and a big RAISE! :D


Use some of the winnings to give Gumi a shot at an MLG. I can see him tearing it up in that format.

iirc gumi has been offered multiple times but he prefers to stay in KR?


You are right. I remember the same discussion after last finals (when he all-killed). Dude is obviously improving and prospering too - one can hardly blame him. I'd love to see him at a foreign event sometime though.


Gumiho refuses to go to international events until he wins GSL I have tried to make him go but he wants to prove himself in korea first


What a boss. Much respect for the Gumibear.


Respect? I think it's kind of a silly reason and just hurts him financially. Imagine if all KRs had that attitude then there would only be a handful of krs at international events since mvp/nestea/mc won most of them. Leenock may be younger, but he's definitely smarter of the two.


If your only in it for the money sure, Gumiho is in it to be the best and has everything he would ever need.


Pro-gaming has a limited shelf life as a career, so you should try to earn as much money at it while you can. I'm not saying you have to be only about the money like stephano. You can find a balance. It's not like gumiho is earning a large salary. Also, winning GSL doesn't necessarily make you the best as no one is calling sniper the best currently.

Obviously, you can't force gumiho to go to foreign tourneys, but it's not something I agree with, so certainly won't give him props for his decision. There are tons of KRs who would kill at the chance to go to foreign tourneys, so I just find it weird for him to turn them down.


You are completely right that progaming has a half life, but we can and DO force them to continue school and college so that they have a life after progaming as a result.
FXOUnstable
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 08 2012 10:07 GMT
#1052
On December 08 2012 18:20 FXOUnstable wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 18:13 Canucklehead wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:50 Chill Penguin wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:50 FXOUnstable wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:48 Maloreon wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:44 opterown wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:44 Chill Penguin wrote:
On December 08 2012 17:40 Looms wrote:
^^ and a big RAISE! :D


Use some of the winnings to give Gumi a shot at an MLG. I can see him tearing it up in that format.

iirc gumi has been offered multiple times but he prefers to stay in KR?


You are right. I remember the same discussion after last finals (when he all-killed). Dude is obviously improving and prospering too - one can hardly blame him. I'd love to see him at a foreign event sometime though.


Gumiho refuses to go to international events until he wins GSL I have tried to make him go but he wants to prove himself in korea first


What a boss. Much respect for the Gumibear.


Respect? I think it's kind of a silly reason and just hurts him financially. Imagine if all KRs had that attitude then there would only be a handful of krs at international events since mvp/nestea/mc won most of them. Leenock may be younger, but he's definitely smarter of the two.


If your only in it for the money sure, Gumiho is in it to be the best and has everything he would ever need.



I am sure Gumiho has turned down foreign events. But does that mean he won't attend ANY foreign event? If so, why is he playing in MLG qualifiers?
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
December 08 2012 10:23 GMT
#1053
I really like MVP but i'm also glad FXO won.. and Leenock their best player didn't even play.. wtf?

It's amazing really!

Congrats to FXO, it's players and a big up for FXO|boss... for being the ... boss!
BENFICA || Besties: idra, Stephano, Nestea, Jaedong, Serral, Jinro, Scarlett || Zerg <3
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
December 08 2012 10:33 GMT
#1054
On December 08 2012 19:23 shell wrote:
I really like MVP but i'm also glad FXO won.. and Leenock their best player didn't even play.. wtf?

It's amazing really!

Congrats to FXO, it's players and a big up for FXO|boss... for being the ... boss!


Same thing happened last season, Gumiho just ripped everyone a new hole.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
December 08 2012 10:55 GMT
#1055
Congrats to FXO. I was hoping this was finally Startale's season to win a GSTL. I hope their in better form mentally next year.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 10:59:50
December 08 2012 10:59 GMT
#1056
On December 08 2012 17:26 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 17:25 Mlex wrote:
Gumiho the new MMA (you get what I mean).


MMA is much cleaner in his multi-tasking (and less crazier).
Ryung is the new MMA


There is no new MMA. Ryung himself said that class is forever (about MMA and Flash).
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
December 08 2012 13:27 GMT
#1057
Pity I couldn't watch it live, I just watched the VOD of the final game.

Gumi pretty good in GSTL finals.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
December 08 2012 13:34 GMT
#1058
Gumiho doesn't lose in GSTL finals apparently...
WriterRecently Necro'd (?)
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
December 08 2012 14:06 GMT
#1059
Wow. GuMiho is a beast.
The heart's eternal vow
Mario1209
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1077 Posts
December 08 2012 14:21 GMT
#1060
gumiho so good =o
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