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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/uonVh.jpg) Sunday, Dec 02 5:30am GMT (GMT+00:00) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2012/Main_Tournament ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/08h88.png) ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/7/7f/Twitch_ico.png) Main Stage | Side Stage![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/3/36/Kr.png) Main Stage | ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/c/c6/Uk.png) SC2 Zone | ![[image loading]](http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/4/4e/Es.png) SC2 Zone Spanish |  NeoTV Wolf | Khaldor | DoA ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/H0ePE.png) 05:30 GMT (+00:00) Grand Finals -  Adelscott vs. PartinG08:30 GMT (+00:00) 3rd Place Match -  LoWeLy vs. MacSed![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/L6Pww.png) http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2012/Main_Tournament | ||
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opterown
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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hyptonic
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
Also parting seems to have a little weakness in PVP so its your chance ! | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
On December 01 2012 21:17 shid0x wrote: Go Adel ! You can't lose now ! Also parting seems to have a little weakness in PVP so its your chance ! Yes that is why he owned Creator at BWC. Parting is a top 5 PvPer atleast. He lost 2 games here to worse players but shit happens. | ||
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Xtreme94
Malaysia282 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On December 01 2012 21:35 Hall0wed wrote: Yes that is why he owned Creator at BWC. Parting is a top 5 PvPer atleast. He lost 2 games here to worse players but shit happens. creator was playing pretty crap, but parting is top 5 pvp yeah | ||
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Peddel
Netherlands229 Posts
On December 01 2012 21:35 Xtreme94 wrote: GoGo Parting ... Once again prove that you are the champion and break the startale runner-up curse.... Actually, that curse was already broken by Life. No Startale player has gotten second since Life's GSL victory. Also: Gogo PartinG! Double World Champion ^^ | ||
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Fuell
Netherlands3111 Posts
On December 01 2012 22:09 Peddel wrote: Actually, that curse was already broken by Life. No Startale player has gotten second since Life's GSL victory. Also: Gogo PartinG! Double World Champion ^^ Life is still ZeNEX in heart, PartinG broke the curse at BWC. | ||
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AxiR
Germany944 Posts
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GreyishTommy
Switzerland147 Posts
On December 01 2012 15:12 Shellshock1122 wrote: Go Adelscott! Do it for the GSL Tour Finals 2012 Seed! Isn't Adelscott assured of participating, since Parting already qualfied through BWC? | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On December 01 2012 22:57 GreyishTommy wrote: Isn't Adelscott assured of participating, since Parting already qualfied through BWC? we don't know how they choose players if some qualify twice | ||
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GreyishTommy
Switzerland147 Posts
On December 01 2012 23:00 opterown wrote: we don't know how they choose players if some qualify twice ah ok thanks^^ | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
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yrt123
Singapore1246 Posts
On December 01 2012 22:09 Peddel wrote: Actually, that curse was already broken by Life. No Startale player has gotten second since Life's GSL victory. Also: Gogo PartinG! Double World Champion ^^ Wrong. Bomber 2nd at Lone Star But yea PartinG for double world champ  | ||
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GreyishTommy
Switzerland147 Posts
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gingerfluffmuff
Austria4570 Posts
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iAmJeffReY
United States4262 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
On December 02 2012 03:25 Doodsmack wrote: Kind of funny that this tournament with a $25,000 first place prize is getting very little attention. And WTF, CombatEX played in an international tourney and did that well? LOL I can't believe that's not getting more attention. I just now learned about randomly cuz I was browsing through Liquipedia...I'll bet a lot of people don't even know. Actually the only talk there was was about CombatEX. Maybe too much talk about him and yeah, really not enough about WCG. And Adelscott in the finals is already bigger of a news than CombatEX winning in the group stage imo. | ||
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Mozzery
United States140 Posts
On December 02 2012 03:54 samurai80 wrote: Actually the only talk there was was about CombatEX. Maybe too much talk about him and yeah, really not enough about WCG. And Adelscott in the finals is already bigger of a news than CombatEX winning in the group stage imo. To be fair, Adel did not have to go through a single Korean, dropped his game against combatex, and had his biggest wins come against Fenix, Fraer, and LoWeLy, who while those are very good players they are not exactly the players you want to beat to get a hype train going. I mean, if LoWeLy can take 3rd place his 2-0 of YongHwa, 2-0 of MarineKing, and win against MacSed would seem much more impressive to me in retrospect than a 2nd place by Adel even with Adel winning the head to head. (Now, if Adel wins the whole thing, obviously this changes) | ||
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MrJoKer
France232 Posts
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PVJ
Hungary5220 Posts
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chuky500
France473 Posts
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
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Fuell
Netherlands3111 Posts
On December 02 2012 07:20 Markwerf wrote: im rooting for parting, don't want to see the GSL tour spot wasted to adel I think Adel might get qualified lol, PartinG already got his spot with his BWC victory. | ||
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MaximilianKohler
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On December 02 2012 07:22 Dronk wrote: I think Adel might get qualified lol, PartinG already got his spot with his BWC victory. it might be just GSL points | ||
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On December 02 2012 10:01 Dexington wrote: Adelscott really came out of no where here. I would love nothing more than for him to beat Parting. The funniest part is that he was in his worst career's period until these WCG. Unable to go through the pool play in a french tournament for example.  http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Francophone Championship Season 1. So it's a very good surprise to see him in the grand finals. And if he earns the spot for the GSL Tour it will be the icing on the cake. | ||
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
On December 02 2012 10:36 Boucot wrote: The funniest part is that he was in his worst career's period until these WCG. Unable to go through the pool play in a french tournament for example. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Francophone Championship Season 1. So it's a very good surprise to see him in the grand finals. And if he earns the spot for the GSL Tour it will be the icing on the cake.That's exactly why I say he came out of no where, because he was doing so bad lately. I bet nobody even expected him to get out of that group. | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On December 02 2012 10:58 Dexington wrote: That's exactly why I say he came out of no where, because he was doing so bad lately. I bet nobody even expected him to get out of that group. Exactly. I'm a Millenium fan but honestly, I didn't see him to go through his group (I didn't expect fraer and KiLLeR fail so hard neither). Glad I was wrong.  | ||
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Cuce
Turkey1127 Posts
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babylon
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Megabuster123
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On December 02 2012 03:25 Doodsmack wrote: Kind of funny that this tournament with a $25,000 first place prize is getting very little attention. And WTF, CombatEX played in an international tourney and did that well? LOL I can't believe that's not getting more attention. I just now learned about randomly cuz I was browsing through Liquipedia...I'll bet a lot of people don't even know. It's at the same time as IPL and GSL, and there are hardly any good players in this. It's not really taken seriously by most fans. | ||
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lolspoon
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Havik_
United States5585 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On December 02 2012 14:26 Boucot wrote: Will the finals be streamed here ? http://fr.twitch.tv/wcg_stage_a_eng Yes, they will. | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
On December 02 2012 03:59 Mozzery wrote: To be fair, Adel did not have to go through a single Korean, dropped his game against combatex, and had his biggest wins come against Fenix, Fraer, and LoWeLy, who while those are very good players they are not exactly the players you want to beat to get a hype train going. I mean, if LoWeLy can take 3rd place his 2-0 of YongHwa, 2-0 of MarineKing, and win against MacSed would seem much more impressive to me in retrospect than a 2nd place by Adel even with Adel winning the head to head. (Now, if Adel wins the whole thing, obviously this changes) Sure but still Adel is in finals and CombatEX not. I didn't say what CombatEX did was not impressive compared to Adel, but in the end it's a bigger news to be in the finals than just qualify for playoffs. | ||
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lolspoon
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Stage D | ||
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Megabuster123
Canada1837 Posts
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Mevious
Canada150 Posts
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yrt123
Singapore1246 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
Chinese accuracy | ||
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FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
On December 02 2012 14:33 yrt123 wrote: is Moon vs Sky the wc3 final? 3rd place. Final is Fly100% vs TeD | ||
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snafoo
New Zealand1615 Posts
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Brutaxilos
United States2629 Posts
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StarStruck
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On December 02 2012 14:33 yrt123 wrote: is Moon vs Sky the wc3 final? I turned it on for one second and that's what I see. lol Fun! It's a same they don't have ToD or Rotti casting it though. D: | ||
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yrt123
Singapore1246 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
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TumNarDok
Germany854 Posts
https://twitter.com/Beyondthegame/status/275107148718022656/photo/1 Meanwhile first map of SC2 had been offscreen + Show Spoiler + won't tell | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On December 02 2012 14:38 TumNarDok wrote: Meanwhile first map of SC2 had been offscreen + Show Spoiler + won't tell lol sick tournament. bo3 finals. dont show half/a third | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44329 Posts
Already 10 minutes late. | ||
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
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Germany854 Posts
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
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pvpeep
Canada228 Posts
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yrt123
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44329 Posts
On December 02 2012 14:43 pvpeep wrote: Is parting/adelscott going to be shown on WCG A? Yup just starting now: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/WCG A | ||
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
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samurai80
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
Poll: If/When PartinG wins WCG, who would be the most deserving replacement? Seed, as next in line GSL points (12) Leenock (although he will likely qualify by himself anyway) (10) Adelscott, as WCG runner up (10) Creator, as WCS runner up (6) They should play FFA between all of these to decide (3) Other (2) TaeJa, as DreamHack runner up (1) 44 total votes Your vote: If/When PartinG wins WCG, who would be the most deserving replacement? (Vote): Leenock (although he will likely qualify by himself anyway) | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
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TumNarDok
Germany854 Posts
On December 02 2012 14:45 Dexington wrote: Seems they didn't play game one... Then WCG twitter was wrong.. can be either way (if so im sorry) | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
On December 02 2012 14:48 Hall0wed wrote: All those people for a BO3 PvP? Fail. They may have come for the whole thing. Lots of games playing there. | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On December 02 2012 14:48 Hall0wed wrote: All those people for a BO3 PvP? Fail. It's not like that's the only stage match today. | ||
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
On December 02 2012 14:47 opterown wrote: Poll: If/When PartinG wins WCG, who would be the most deserving replacement? Seed, as next in line GSL points (12) Leenock (although he will likely qualify by himself anyway) (10) Adelscott, as WCG runner up (10) Creator, as WCS runner up (6) They should play FFA between all of these to decide (3) Other (2) TaeJa, as DreamHack runner up (1) 44 total votes Your vote: If/When PartinG wins WCG, who would be the most deserving replacement? (Vote): Leenock (although he will likely qualify by himself anyway) Adel, mostly for the lolz | ||
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KingOfNoodles
Australia379 Posts
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opterown
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44329 Posts
On December 02 2012 14:51 KingOfNoodles wrote: Damn what happened to MKP Lost 2-0 to Lowely. | ||
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Singapore1246 Posts
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StarVe
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Germany3468 Posts
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samurai80
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DarkPlasmaBall
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Dexington
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Soyuz
Hong Kong996 Posts
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
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Goldfish
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http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/WCG D | ||
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samurai80
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DarkPlasmaBall
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StarStruck
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Especially Moon's cute play. | ||
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Die4Ever
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
seriously they should play straight up to have a decent chance against Parting. It's PvP after all | ||
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Soyuz
Hong Kong996 Posts
On December 02 2012 14:54 Goldfish wrote: Epic WC3 game with Moon: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/WCG D No wonder he's not ripping up the SC2 scene yet! | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
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Soyuz
Hong Kong996 Posts
On December 02 2012 14:56 Die4Ever wrote: that crowd is pretty big, considering this isn't the best tournament Historically one of the only ones in China though | ||
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On December 02 2012 14:56 Die4Ever wrote: that crowd is pretty big, considering this isn't the best tournament It's China. They show up. whoops | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
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Goldfish
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http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/WCG D Moon is staying barely staying alive (trying to rebuild his ancient while the Sky, the human player, tries to snipe his tree). As Doa says, this is the true defense of the ancients! | ||
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Soyuz
Hong Kong996 Posts
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/World_Cyber_Games_2012#Results It says China? | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44329 Posts
On December 02 2012 14:55 sitromit wrote: LOL French cheese fails. Parting smelled it from a mile away. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44329 Posts
On December 02 2012 14:59 FinestHour wrote: that crowd is one of the biggest ones for sc2 ive ever seen lol I think it's for WCG in general. I doubt too many people are excited for this finals compared to other tournament finals. | ||
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crawlingchaos
Canada2025 Posts
On December 02 2012 14:56 StarStruck wrote: and I just realized I missed the first game lol. Me too O.O | ||
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:00 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I think it's for WCG in general. I doubt too many people are excited for this finals compared to other tournament finals. Definitely, considering WC3 and both DotA finals were China vs China, and they also had a rep in World of Tanks. | ||
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Balthazar
United States277 Posts
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Azarkon
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StarStruck
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I wonder if it's more entertaining than the SC2 finals. Now i get to check o-o | ||
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Die4Ever
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Goldfish
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http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/WCG D Epic game. Moon failed to defend his ancient though ( invis humans + mortar managed to get his ancient ). Short summary of that match: Moon had hero level lead (Warden level 6 + Panda) and army lead but they got into a base race and the Sky (the human player) managed to destroy all his structures (besides wisps and one ancient) and managed to snipe his main ancient twice. Finally, Moon loses due to the final snipe against his remaining structure remaining. | ||
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vandelayindustries
United States290 Posts
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
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Valikyr
Sweden2653 Posts
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Valikyr
Sweden2653 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:03 RaiKageRyu wrote: What were the results of War3 right now? Sky 1 - 1 Moon. | ||
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IshinShishi
Japan6156 Posts
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
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Sumahi
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Soyuz
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babylon
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FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:03 RaiKageRyu wrote: What were the results of War3 right now? Full results were: Group A: Moon 3-0 Sky 2-1 Remind 1-2 Paladyn 0-3 Group B: Fly 2-1 Lyn 2-1 TeD 2-1 Hawk 0-3 Tiebreaker went: Fly 2-0 Ted 1-1 Lyn 0-2 (T_____T) Then Ro4: Fly 2-1 Sky TeD 2-0 Moon | ||
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vandelayindustries
United States290 Posts
is the final being played after this? | ||
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AnachronisticAnarchy
United States2957 Posts
On December 02 2012 03:25 Doodsmack wrote: Kind of funny that this tournament with a $25,000 first place prize is getting very little attention. And WTF, CombatEX played in an international tourney and did that well? LOL I can't believe that's not getting more attention. I just now learned about randomly cuz I was browsing through Liquipedia...I'll bet a lot of people don't even know. His results would only be impressive if he actually beat people who have any name value whatsoever. Instead, he beat a bunch of people I've never heard of and the guy who made the most bashed build in PvP history, after which CombatEX got promptly smacked down by Parting. What I'm more interested in, personally, is Lowely's upset of MKP and Adelscott's victory over Lowely and Fenix. | ||
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Goldfish
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On December 02 2012 15:04 IshinShishi wrote: man, moon got fooled twice, once is fine but twice by the same move?zzzzz Yeah, he should moved with his main ancient . He could have still had a chance (he still had the better army).After SC2, you guys should watch WC3 .Game 3 with Moon (NE) vs Sky (Human) going on: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/WCG D | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44329 Posts
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opterown
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: The casters hyped that up way too much. Parting was up 10+ supply throughout the entire engagement. He wasn't going to lose that. it was pretty even for a few minutes, adel was up for an instant too | ||
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United States461 Posts
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Soyuz
Hong Kong996 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: The casters hyped that up way too much. Parting was up 10+ supply throughout the entire engagement. He wasn't going to lose that. Adel had the advantage of the army supply for at least half that battle | ||
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Mevious
Canada150 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:06 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Is Adel really pronounced "AY-dul"? I thought it was "uh-DELL" I don't think Wolf and Khaldor really know. They seem to be switching between the two pronunciations throughout the game. | ||
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opterown
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FinestHour
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opterown
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Die4Ever
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Wunder
United Kingdom2950 Posts
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Goldfish
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On December 02 2012 15:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Korea wins. All is right in the world. Yep . Go Korea! Also Tasteless voice: Parting is the best player in the world right now!Also now for WC3 guys (with Doa!): Moon vs Sky http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/WCG D | ||
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coverpunch
United States2093 Posts
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TiTanIum_
Brazil1335 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:08 Mevious wrote: I don't think Wolf and Khaldor really know. They seem to be switching between the two pronunciations throughout the game. I think the French pronunciation is uh-dell, if his name was only Adel. But it is AdelScott, so ay-dul may be right as well... | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:07 Soyuz wrote: Adel had the advantage of the army supply for at least half that battle Blink stalkers vs sentries and four immortals up a ramp without high ground vision, it was pretty difficult to get a good fight there. | ||
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Hoonose
United States132 Posts
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
Grats to both though on the easiest money of their lives. | ||
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Canada4773 Posts
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Soyuz
Hong Kong996 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Korea wins. All is right in the world. And just two days ago we had CombatEx taking a game off of Parting .... Powers have been restored | ||
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United States560 Posts
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Chill Penguin
Australia756 Posts
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:09 opterown wrote: lol "best protoss in the world" Well, he won WCS, too, didn't he? IPL5 hasn't produced a prominent Protoss and neither has this GSL season. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
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Soyuz
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Kitaen
Austria466 Posts
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ECHOZs
United States499 Posts
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TiTanIum_
Brazil1335 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:09 Goldfish wrote: Yep . Go Korea! Also Tasteless voice: Parting is the best player in the world right now!Also now for WC3 guys (with Doa!): Moon vs Sky http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/WCG D Is that 3rd - 4th place? | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
Yonghwa, MKP and supernova can be their servants. | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:10 StarVe wrote: Well, he won WCS, too, didn't he? IPL5 hasn't produced a prominent Protoss and neither has this GSL season. I agree that Parting might be the best toss in the world, but it has nothing to do with him beating Adellscott lol | ||
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coverpunch
United States2093 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:10 ZAiNs wrote: Yay, now Parting won't be exiled from Korea. Lol, yeah, the reaction won't be "congratulations", it will be "you did your job". | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:09 TiTanIum_ wrote: I think the French pronunciation is uh-dell, if his name was only Adel. But it is AdelScott, so ay-dul may be right as well... It's "ah-dell" | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
 Good job ^^ bringin' home the gold. Wise choice to go here too lol, especially with how ridiculously competitive IPL was. | ||
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
Yeah! Also Doa is apparently being left to cast solo (Rambo is going to cast in WCG A stream). | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:09 opterown wrote: lol "best protoss in the world" Awwwww its ok Opterown don't be upset, its been a rough weekend for Prime fans I'm sure. =D Parting #1 =D | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:11 Dodgin wrote: Time for Mvp and Parting to form the " saves Korea's ass in WCG " club Yonghwa, MKP and supernova can be their servants. Ah yeah, MKP even failed twice, next time they won't even let him participate in the qualifiers. | ||
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tpmraven
United States833 Posts
I had such high hopes for sc2 but it just never matched wc3 in my heart. | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:11 Die4Ever wrote: I agree that Parting might be the best toss in the world, but it has nothing to do with him beating Adellscott lol best toss or not Parting is laughing straight to the bank with $125000. Best monthly earning ever | ||
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Die4Ever
United States17676 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:12 StarVe wrote: Ah yeah, MKP even failed twice, next time they won't even let him participate in the qualifiers. I really don't understand why koreans ever lose in WCG, they lose to mediocre players too, really weird | ||
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TiTanIum_
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On December 02 2012 15:11 Goldfish wrote: Yeah! Also Doa is apparently being left to cast solo (Rambo is going to cast in WCG A stream). DOA is a quick learn. He is also casting LoL, if I'm not mistaken (I might be, I don't really know) | ||
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:08 Mevious wrote: I don't think Wolf and Khaldor really know. They seem to be switching between the two pronunciations throughout the game. It's A-DELL. Not Ay, not Uh. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
Take that, Creator fanboys. | ||
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Chill Penguin
Australia756 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:13 simmeh wrote: $125,000 for parting in less than a month... not bad! And only had to beat 1 Korean! | ||
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Valikyr
Sweden2653 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:11 StarStruck wrote: UH OH Don't leave DoA alone Rambo LOL Yea was thinking the same :D. Sky's so impressive this game. Kind of wish Moon never transitioned to SC2 when I'm watching this | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:14 Dodgin wrote: I guess this makes Parting the world champion x2 Take that, Creator fanboys. what about the rain fanboys ;P | ||
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wozzot
United States1227 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:13 simmeh wrote: $125,000 for parting in less than a month... not bad! Dude's going to be rolling in weekly allowance money now | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:14 Dodgin wrote: I guess this makes Parting the world champion x2 Take that, Creator fanboys. But Tasteless said Sniper is now the best player in the world!? | ||
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
yeah, like the Adelscott beer which is a french beer. | ||
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stuchiu
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On December 02 2012 15:16 RaiKageRyu wrote: wait did Sky's archmage actually die from the warden's DoT dagger, or did Sky kill it off with his own footmen to res it to full HP quicker. I think it was DoT. | ||
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Laryleprakon
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On December 02 2012 15:16 stuchiu wrote: But Tasteless said Sniper is now the best player in the world!? Is he a legend as well? | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
oh lol wow that's true, haha, never realised | ||
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Goldfish
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It's a casting party. | ||
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On December 02 2012 15:16 stuchiu wrote: But Tasteless said Sniper is now the best player in the world!? Did they really? I went to take a nap because I didn't care about the GSL finals at all. I hope they say the same thing for whoever wins IPL5 tomorrow. | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
edit:apparently Sky mixes in some knights instead of pure tanks. Moon's anticipation by making glaives is kinda caught off guard | ||
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samurai80
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gg wp anyway for both players. | ||
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On December 02 2012 15:18 crawlingchaos wrote: This just reminds me how godawful I was at WC3 lol I used to play WC3 like BW. Fast expand or die trying. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:19 Dodgin wrote: Did they really? I went to take a nap because I didn't care about the GSL finals at all. I hope they say the same thing for whoever wins IPL5 tomorrow. Game 7 was sick. | ||
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TiTanIum_
Brazil1335 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:20 RaiKageRyu wrote: lol Khaldor still in SC mode. Calling humans, Terran. And he doesn't see a terran in a month. | ||
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Sumahi
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On December 02 2012 15:16 Tachion wrote: That was the most anti-climatic $25,000 "world finals" I've ever seen. Agreed (I thought it would be a best of 5 at least). But I'm still happy that the player I wanted to triumphed. | ||
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Zenbrez
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edit; apparently yes | ||
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StarStruck
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On December 02 2012 15:21 Zenbrez wrote: Is Sky Chinese? edit; apparently yes Yup Sky and Moon have quite the feud. | ||
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Goldfish
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Edit - To clarify I mean not an awkward ending! | ||
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On December 02 2012 15:23 Goldfish wrote: Sky with a Mic? This certainly tops <insert awkward ceremony> with any SC2 tournament . Just two words for you buddy. Min Chul. | ||
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Valikyr
Sweden2653 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:22 Caihead wrote: aww moon, feel sad for him Moon's WCG curse | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
thank you Moon for ten years of entertaining me and countless of wc3 nerds+ Show Spoiler + Sky seems to know how to play the crowd really well. Much more charismatic than I would have imagined. hes paying respect to the greatest wc3 players ever in the last wcg of wc3 | ||
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IshinShishi
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rofl mc's got nothing on sky, sky was a torchbearer for china, he's gigantic over there. | ||
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On December 02 2012 15:25 FinestHour wrote: is undead considered a weaker race? Against Orc, they do really bad (average winrate is 30% I remember hearing). And there is lots of Orcs. Besides Orc though, mostly even match ups. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:25 FinestHour wrote: is undead considered a weaker race? nvm, guy above me knows more. | ||
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Valikyr
Sweden2653 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:24 Arceus wrote: this got me in tears thank you Moon for ten years of entertaining me and countless of wc3 nerdsPlease turn off the sad music please :'(( | ||
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
2nd, 3rd and now a 4th place. | ||
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opterown
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On December 02 2012 15:25 Goldfish wrote: Against Orc, they do really bad (average winrate is 30% I remember hearing). And there is lots of Orcs. Besides Orc though, mostly even match ups. man, that's worse than sc2 balance haha | ||
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On December 02 2012 03:12 iAmJeffReY wrote: I'm sure adelscott has a chance against parting! + Show Spoiler + well... after having watched PartinG completely steamroll Adel im gonna have to disagree with your statement. | ||
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Canada8550 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:25 Valikyr wrote: Please turn off the sad music please :'(( I think there's sad music because this is the last time WC3 is being played at WCG? | ||
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Loire
Singapore1358 Posts
4 races pretty hard to balance =p | ||
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:25 IshinShishi wrote: rofl mc's got nothing on sky, sky was a torchbearer for china, he's gigantic over there. Sky is equivalent to Boxer a person that cemented a game in their countries. | ||
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Brazil1335 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:25 Azarkon wrote: Sad this wasn't the finals of WC 3. Sky vs. Moon is a great way to send off WC 3, but it's only a third place match. This is the last time with WC3 in WCG? | ||
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FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:27 Caihead wrote: I think there's sad music because this is the last time WC3 is being played at WCG? Thats what we thought 2 years ago, but here we are :p | ||
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:27 FXOpen wrote: Thats what we thought 2 years ago, but here we are :p Maybe it's sad music because no one knows if Moon is going to come back to wc3 again? | ||
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Canada8550 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:27 FXOpen wrote: Thats what we thought 2 years ago, but here we are :p It's a special exhibition game because it's being hosted in China, it's very difficult to find any other countries where WC3 would be the exhibition game. You might say China is the only country. | ||
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TumNarDok
Germany854 Posts
I don't think they can skip WC3 seeing the popularity still. | ||
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babylon
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Sky and Moon both looked near tears when Sky dragged Moon onto stage. Match meant a lot to both of them with their history. <3 | ||
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Fall.182
United States126 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:07 Soyuz wrote: Adel had the advantage of the army supply for at least half that battle PartinG's micro was just way better than Adel's | ||
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FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:30 vandelayindustries wrote: Anyone know roughly how long until the wc3 final is being played? Debating if I want to stay up for it or catch the vod tomorrow Next on stage A is Crossfire final, then WC3. I dunno how long Crossfire will be though :/ Schedule says 1 hour. | ||
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Pwere
Canada1556 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:30 vandelayindustries wrote: I think it is scheduled to start in 1h30, but I might be off by 1h in my time conversion.Anyone know roughly how long until the wc3 final is being played? Debating if I want to stay up for it or catch the vod tomorrow | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:30 vandelayindustries wrote: Anyone know roughly how long until the wc3 final is being played? Debating if I want to stay up for it or catch the vod tomorrow Looking at http://www.twitch.tv/team/wcg I think 2 hours? | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
08:00 GMT (+00:00) | ||
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vandelayindustries
United States290 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:32 opterown wrote: warcraft 3 finals is at 08:00 GMT (+00:00) optertown why are you a guardian | ||
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Valikyr
Sweden2653 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:31 FXOpen wrote: Next on stage A is Crossfire final, then WC3. I dunno how long Crossfire will be though :/ Schedule says 1 hour. The only crossfire I can think of when hearing the word: Now that would be an epic finals. | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
because zerg is really really strong, man | ||
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opterown
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On December 02 2012 15:33 Valikyr wrote: The only crossfire I can think of when hearing the word: Now that would be an epic finals. they should play on the sc2 map too and make wolf cast it (he's known for hating it) | ||
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:27 Fall.182 wrote: + Show Spoiler + well... after having watched PartinG completely steamroll Adel im gonna have to disagree with your statement. He did have a chance... in 10. 1st game: proxy stargate scouted -> gg, 2nd game: close call micro battle into gg. With a lot of luck, he did have a chance but well, he lost as expected. | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:34 opterown wrote: they should play on the sc2 map too and make wolf cast it (he's known for hating it) Both players will also be bald. | ||
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whipjeans
China15 Posts
the sky&moon's match is our best memory,who care the no.3 of wcg who care the sc2 match,so much worry RTS game's future in china | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
zerg bandwagon sniper fans | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:40 whipjeans wrote: after the game of sky &moon,the sad bgm made me cry the sky&moon's match is our best memory,who care the no.3 of wcg who care the sc2 match,so much worry RTS game's future in china They should pay Sky and Moon to play Bo5s every week. That might save RTS in China. | ||
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:42 Shellshock1122 wrote: wait is crossfire just a weird version of counterstrike? Chinese version of Counterstrike. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
With preset weapon buy and only 1 sniper in tournament setting | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:45 Caihead wrote: With preset weapon buy and only 1 sniper in tournament setting well, at least there will be less #sniperkillingesports talk | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On December 02 2012 15:46 opterown wrote: well, at least there will be less #sniperkillingesports talk Mzin still kiills everyone with the sniper though lol | ||
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Goldfish
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=385353¤tpage=15 Really fun cast. Edit - They're talking about heroes appearance and what they're doing. This is like Artosis + Tasteless casting WC3. Some people are going to be mad >.>. | ||
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RiZu
Singapore5715 Posts
Nope, there are other characters such as mutants and zombies,weird to see crossfire with only soldiers though. I guess it okay since it a tournaments setting. | ||
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Seriously though, this Dota 2 cast is gold: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/WCG D | ||
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Here's the link again: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/WCG D This is like Artosis and Tasteless making jokes in SC2, but 10x better (Dota 2 cast). | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
Nah, Korean version of Counterstrike, but I don't think they're that great at it, because the last two WCGs there were no Korean teams in the finals. | ||
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WC3 Finals soon: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/WCG A Dota 2 with Doa and Ramon (Fat Butterfly, Pony Waves, Disco Balls, Armored Bug, etc. Very fun cast): http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/WCG D | ||
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Australia1844 Posts
On December 02 2012 16:48 Goldfish wrote: Both are loading for me. Tried the embedded stream? WC3 Finals soon: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/WCG A Dota 2 with Doa and Ramon (Fat Butterfly, Pony Waves, Disco Balls, Armored Bug, etc. Very fun cast): http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/WCG D assassin bug, get it right. | ||
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Goldfish
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He was assassin bug for most of the game but he was demoted to armored bug at the end. | ||
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If anyone has any questions regarding the players, their history or the game itself: I'll be happy to answer! | ||
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On December 02 2012 17:07 LittLeD wrote: WC3 Grand Finals starting on Stream A! If anyone has any questions regarding the players, their history or the game itself: I'll be happy to answer! Is there a place with general information on competitive Warcraft 3, akin to TL's Liquipedia? | ||
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On December 02 2012 17:15 Hier wrote: Is there a place with general information on competitive Warcraft 3, akin to TL's Liquipedia? I'm afraid not. Of course, there are forums/sites with plenty of helpful people such as WCReplays.com, GosuGamers.net or tft.replayers.com but there's really no wiki. | ||
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Couldn't wake up at 6 am on sunday morning... Congratulations PartinG! | ||
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LittLeD
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HOLY SHIT WHAT A GAME! | ||
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On December 02 2012 17:38 Hier wrote: Where are all those random crypt fiends coming from? The kodos ate them, you kill the kodo to release them | ||
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nAgeDitto
United States428 Posts
WC3 'Meta' changed so much since I last watched. Banshees /headhunters being used!! | ||
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Cinek357
Poland119 Posts
What an amazing game! That's why I love WC3, almost 20 minutes battle, it's not something you can see in SC. | ||
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On December 02 2012 17:41 Cinek357 wrote: YES!!! TeD!!! What an amazing game! That's why I love WC3, almost 20 minutes battle, it's not something you can see in SC2. fixed that for you | ||
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iSometric
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So excited, might be the last wc3 in wcg,,,,,,,,,, Coming out of retirement to kick orc's ass! | ||
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FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
On December 02 2012 17:40 nAgeDitto wrote: That was so fun. WC3 'Meta' changed so much since I last watched. Banshees /headhunters being used!! Headhunters used to counter the destroyers... TeD just didn't make any though. On December 02 2012 17:41 ZerglingTwins wrote: If Ted wins, is he the first UD WCG champion? This is the first time an Undead has made it to WCG finals ^^ | ||
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United States428 Posts
On December 02 2012 17:42 FXOpen wrote: Headhunters used to counter the destroyers... TeD just didn't make any though. This is the first time an Undead has made it to WCG finals ^^ Ahh thanks, that makes sense. Yeah Ted didn't even have citadel tech. That was such a scrappy game.. I think a single misuse of resources would have swung the game around the other way :O | ||
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ZerglingTwins
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On December 02 2012 17:41 Cinek357 wrote: YES!!! TeD!!! What an amazing game! That's why I love WC3, almost 20 minutes battle, it's not something you can see in SC. SC2. WC3 and SC are such a set of RTS game, so different, extremely good in their own ways, and both are so creative. Blizzard dropped the ball in last several years since Activision took charge. | ||
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Sweden7973 Posts
On December 02 2012 17:46 phyre112 wrote: Anywhere to get VODs of WCG? I've just been burned out on esports after all the action at IPL this weekend, but I know I'm going to want to watch something where I don't know the results (WCG) later this week. http://www.youtube.com/user/stonebreakkid This guy has a lot of the games that were played re-uploaded and re-casted. | ||
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SiDX
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On December 02 2012 17:49 Caihead wrote: hmm... this game starting out to be double one base plays Undead rarely expands | ||
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You can't expand at all vs orc as undead any way, was referring to fly not expanding | ||
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fakgfdgfdh
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On December 02 2012 17:07 LittLeD wrote: WC3 Grand Finals starting on Stream A! If anyone has any questions regarding the players, their history or the game itself: I'll be happy to answer! what matchup is considered the best? how are the mirror matches, are they considered bad as in starcraft? do they ever get into late game, late game style armies, big armies? | ||
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nAgeDitto
United States428 Posts
How the !$%! Did WC3 Phase out.. seriously. Its so much fun to watch XD | ||
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Sweden2653 Posts
On December 02 2012 17:57 illumn wrote: UD beating Orc to win WCG would be quite fitting ending for WC3 (or is it returning to WCG next year?). I sincerely hope it's returning next year. | ||
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Fullback
Argentina170 Posts
On December 02 2012 17:55 fakgfdgfdh wrote: what matchup is considered the best? how are the mirror matches, are they considered bad as in starcraft? do they ever get into late game, late game style armies, big armies? Most people consider HU mirror the most boring matchup because breakerwars ( i find it quite entertaining tho) but most of them are good. | ||
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nAgeDitto
United States428 Posts
Did upgrades 'phase out' ? | ||
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FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
On December 02 2012 17:55 fakgfdgfdh wrote: what matchup is considered the best? how are the mirror matches, are they considered bad as in starcraft? do they ever get into late game, late game style armies, big armies? There isn't really a 'best' matchup, it's just that Undead is the weakest race so they're played less often. Mirrors aren't bad (imo), but lots of pros dislike them, even to the point of playing a different race (Remind plays Orc sometimes instead of Elf mirror, TH000 plays NE sometimes instead of Human mirror). Orc mirror is kinda like a mix between PvP and ZvZ. They get in to late game of course, usually in the human matchups. It's not so common though, but it happens still. | ||
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tomwizz
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This game is just beautiful. Almost forgot this is a Blizzard game. | ||
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illumn
New Zealand437 Posts
Orc imba. | ||
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Dodgin
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http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/WCG D | ||
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nAgeDitto
United States428 Posts
That was so awesome to watch lol | ||
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Germany83 Posts
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On December 02 2012 18:05 Valikyr wrote: Is BM or Infestors worse? Well, in this one match up, it's like TvZ if terran is back to barracks with out supply depot requirement 11/11. | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:04 figq wrote: Orc is the best starting race for complete beginners and UD is the worst, right? Disagree. I think UD is the best starting race. The DPS is insane, and most players on ladder aren't good enough to take advantage of the BM. Also Orc DPS is shit without BM. | ||
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xxxxxxb
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On December 02 2012 18:05 Valikyr wrote: Is BM or Infestors worse? It's a brood lord who spaws stimed dts. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:06 babylon wrote: Disagree. I think UD is the best starting race. The DPS is insane, and most players on ladder aren't good enough to take advantage of the BM. Also Orc DPS is shit without BM. UD skely + crypt fiends is really easy to play with, but once you are playing with people who know how to creep its a completely different story since that combo doesn't scale with gear at all. | ||
monk
United States8476 Posts
Edit: boo, he picked DK =( | ||
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Kyyuna
United States1222 Posts
HAHAHA priceless good sir | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:06 babylon wrote: But if you are beginner, with UD you just lose units a ton, while orcs tank more and are easier to save.Disagree. I think UD is the best starting race. The DPS is insane, and most players on ladder aren't good enough to take advantage of the BM. Also Orc DPS is shit without BM. | ||
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monk
United States8476 Posts
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ramon
Germany4842 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:08 figq wrote: But if you are beginner, with UD you just lose units a ton, while orcs tank more and are easier to save. yeah i agree, orc is easiest to start and best if you are decent and best if you are pro not by much though, every race has it's strengths | ||
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
On December 02 2012 17:55 fakgfdgfdh wrote: what matchup is considered the best? how are the mirror matches, are they considered bad as in starcraft? do they ever get into late game, late game style armies, big armies? With 4 races, there are too many match-ups to convincingly say one is better than the other. I'll give you my opinion instead: My top 3 favorite match-ups: 1) Orc vs Undead (Just look at the series going on right now, and you'll realize how freaking unreal this match-up can be at times. I absolutely love it) 2) Human vs Human (Similar to the TvT match-up in SC2, this match-up can be extremely long at times, and be nail-biting close when very skilled players are in control) 3) Orc vs Orc (An extremely micro-intense match-up) My 3 worst match-ups: 1) Human vs Orc (Can, at unusual times be extremely intense, but usually just ends up in the human doing some variation of a tower rush, which is usually short and boring or expand mass tower/mass gryphon style, which is also quite boring) 2) Night elf vs Undead (I just think it's rather boring to watch) 3) Night Elf vs Human (Same as above, usually not very exciting) Concerning your second questions: Mirror are (in my opinion) nothing worse than any other match-up and can just as any other match-up be long, intense and very varied in terms of unit compositions. I'd say the average game time of a WC3 pro game is around 14-15 minutes, which would mean 50 % of the games are above that length. This tells you that WC3 games can be just as long if not longer than average SC2 games. Despite this, most of these games aren't played out with supplies over 50 (but this has more to do with the mechanics of the upkeep than anything else), but very big fights can occur, especially in the human match-ups (HvO and HvU on certain maps can go all up to 100 vs 100 fights). | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:08 figq wrote: But if you are beginner, with UD you just lose units a ton, while orcs tank more and are easier to save. Fiends are really easy to keep alive if you have even a modicum of control. Again most players won't know how to shadow an UD player well enough for the imbalance to really show outside of the top level of play. Orc units are fucking fat, slow, melee, and don't do damage. | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
Omg breaker wars not fun. | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:05 Valikyr wrote: Is BM or Infestors worse? it's not a stretch to say BM singlehandedly kills the game, makes countless UDs retire and grabs all the money. True story. | ||
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monk
United States8476 Posts
Concerning your second questions: Mirror are (in my opinion) nothing worse than any other match-up and can just as any other match-up be long, intense and very varied in terms of unit compositions. Well, Orc vs Orc isn't really that varied. In 90% of games, you'll actually see the exact same army at 50 supply. BM, SH, 4 Grunts, 2 Raiders, 2 Spirit Walker, 1 Kodo, and 12 Peons =O. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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Valikyr
Sweden2653 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:15 Arceus wrote: it's not a stretch to say BM singlehandedly kills the game, makes countless UDs retire and grabs all the money. True story. So the infestors are worse for the game.  | ||
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:13 babylon wrote: I can't believe someone actually likes HU mirror. Omg breaker wars not fun.I haven't watched pro games for over a year, but my memories of that match-up are hilarious micro wars with breaker surrounds everywhere, millitas, epic hero fights with high levels, knights, sorcs with invis and plenty more. I guess though, during the later days I mostly just watched the top of the cream when it came to WC3 replays. | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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simmeh
Canada2511 Posts
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
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zxd123
China64 Posts
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Valikyr
Sweden2653 Posts
Gz TeD! | ||
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FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
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parazice
Thailand5517 Posts
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
I'm so glad right now. | ||
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SiDX
New Zealand1975 Posts
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iSometric
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darkmetabee
Canada24 Posts
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nAgeDitto
United States428 Posts
Vs Orc too Good job Ted | ||
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akalarry
United States1978 Posts
blizzard needs to buff blademaster more | ||
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Brutaxilos
United States2629 Posts
Not good enough for my tastes. Whatever, I guess thats WCG then. :D | ||
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PavelDatsyuk88
Sweden55 Posts
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babylon
8765 Posts
Grats, TeD, for making history. :D | ||
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simmeh
Canada2511 Posts
so im happy for all the happy people! lol | ||
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WoodLeagueAllStar
United States806 Posts
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Nachor
Germany83 Posts
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parazice
Thailand5517 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:21 simmeh wrote: i know nothing about wc3, but this undead race winning wcg seems like a pretty big deal so im happy for all the happy people! lol Human build more tower Orc go go BM NE Moon!!!! Ud -"- f__k | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
grats China, lots of medals | ||
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Deckkie
Netherlands1595 Posts
It did look pretty intense though. | ||
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NOForever
2 Posts
God do I miss/love this game. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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babylon
8765 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:23 parazice wrote: Human build more tower Orc go go BM NE Moon!!!! Ud -"- f__k Meanwhile TH000 twiddles his thumbs, dicks around with Random, owns face in China, yet fails in every single non-domestic tournament ever. | ||
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ZerglingTwins
United States850 Posts
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Hier
2391 Posts
Edit: Also, that white stage where SC2 was played looks so grand. | ||
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WoodLeagueAllStar
United States806 Posts
Day9 and Husky should play a showmatch, now that would be boss. | ||
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simmeh
Canada2511 Posts
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xxxxxxb
155 Posts
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nAgeDitto
United States428 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:26 ZerglingTwins wrote: Korea didn't get the national cup, how many time did that happen before, anybody knows? The only time Korea won WC3 WCG was Last year (maybe 2 years ago?) When Remind (NE) won vs Grubby(Oc). I'm pretty sure. The Korean casters cried because Korean's hard work finally paid off in WC3 (when support from Korea was basically done) | ||
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zxd123
China64 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:29 nAgeDitto wrote: The only time Korea won WC3 WCG was Last year (maybe 2 years ago?) When Remind (NE) won vs Grubby. I'm pretty sure. The Korean casters cried because Korean's hard work finally paid off in WC3 (when support from Korea was basically done) no,2010 remind ,2011 lyn | ||
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RandomRice
United States303 Posts
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nAgeDitto
United States428 Posts
Oo it happened again?! Didint follow WC3 Scene too much Sorry about the misinformation! Anyways the remind victory was a really big deal :D | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:26 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote: I want to cry that this sadly will never happen. I mean, the whole WC3 epic era was kind of before the current level of streaming activity (twitch etc), VOD quality and overall esports super wide community. Imagine how vibrant this scene could be right now, if it could be revived. The game is so awesome!I am old enough to have played WCIII but forgot so much about it. Never played at highest level just beating kids from my school. Blizzard should have WC3 games rather than SC2 until HotS, it was so refreshing to watch! Day9 and Husky should play a showmatch, now that would be boss. P.S. Imagine Stephano back to WC3, but now kicking everyone's ass. | ||
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Cinek357
Poland119 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:26 ZerglingTwins wrote: Korea didn't get the national cup, how many time did that happen before, anybody knows? If you ask about WC3, WCG is really unlucky tournament for Korean players. If I am not mistaken, ReminD and Lyn were the only players to win WCG's (in 2010 and 2011 respectively). It was always Chinese / foreigner tournament, especially with Sky and Grubby both winning 2 titles. | ||
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FXOpen
Australia1844 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:29 nAgeDitto wrote: The only time Korea won WC3 WCG was Last year (maybe 2 years ago?) When Remind (NE) won vs Grubby(Oc). I'm pretty sure. The Korean casters cried because Korean's hard work finally paid off in WC3 (when support from Korea was basically done) :3 | ||
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LaG.Gaming
United States288 Posts
and that finals !!! ted vs lyn unbelievable games!!! so much micro O_O | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:30 figq wrote: I want to cry that this sadly will never happen. I mean, the whole WC3 epic era was kind of before the current level of streaming activity (twitch etc), VOD quality and overall esports super wide community. Imagine how vibrant this scene could be right now, if it could be revived. The game is so awesome! Well, the Chinese scene is still around. Not exactly kicking, and I'm sure it's hard to show support from overseas, but I encourage everyone to bookmark war3.replays.net and periodically check the right-hand bulletin for upcoming tournaments to watch. There are three more coming up. HFWL 16强淘汰赛 12月7日 AWL四强Lawliet vs FoCuS | RMD vs Lyn 12月7日20:00 G联赛八强线上复赛 12月15日&17日 Also, like, Yumiko's always uploading stuff to his channel too, and the 2v2 scene is really fun to follow these days, with Ted/Fly, Lucifer/Nicker, and TH000/Yumiko playing 2s. | ||
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ZerglingTwins
United States850 Posts
OGN is awesome. | ||
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nAgeDitto
United States428 Posts
The Game with Korean commentary :D | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:21 babylon wrote: TeD's strategy: Wait for every single UD to retire so that nobody practices the MU anymore, come back and pwn. Grats, TeD, for making history. :D shit if only my man ReiGn or even Sweet, Fov or GoStop could prevail years ago Korean UDs were so much more handsome than this kid, skillwise and lookwise | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:35 Arceus wrote: shit if only my man ReiGn or even Sweet, Fov or GoStop could prevail years ago Korean UDs were so much more handsome than this kid, skillwise and lookwise Yes, Sweet fans unite! Hard to talk down to TeD though, he's easily one of the best UDs in history (even before this victory). I also think TeD and FoV are around the same level in looks. | ||
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Cinek357
Poland119 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:30 figq wrote: I want to cry that this sadly will never happen. I mean, the whole WC3 epic era was kind of before the current level of streaming activity (twitch etc), VOD quality and overall esports super wide community. Imagine how vibrant this scene could be right now, if it could be revived. The game is so awesome! Exactly my thoughts WC3 would be so extremly popular game with all the support that SC2 gets... This WCG finals was epic, but we had many series like this, it's just Warcraft being so amazing. I really wish WC3 could be revived | ||
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:36 babylon wrote: Yes, Sweet fans unite! Hard to talk down to TeD though, he's easily one of the best UDs in history (even before this victory). I also think TeD and FoV are around the same level in looks. Sweet was a complete boss, but my favorite Undead will always be Lucifer. He had the most wacky strats back in the days when he was new to the scene and it was so awesome to watch. | ||
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zxd123
China64 Posts
Gold Silver Bronze 2012 TeD (UD) Fly100% (Orc) Sky (HU) 2011 Lyn (Orc) Sky (HU) Fly100% (Orc) 2010 ReMinD (NE) Grubby (Orc) Lyn (Orc) 2009 inFi (HU) Fly100% (Orc) Lyn (Orc) 2008 Grubby (Orc) Moon (NE) Happy (UD) 2007 Creolophus (NE) Sky (HU) Moon (NE) 2006 Sky (HU) ToD (HU) HoT (NE) 2005 Sky (HU) ShortRound (NE) Grubby (Orc) 2004 Grubby (Orc) Zacard (Orc) ToD (HU) | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:41 LittLeD wrote: Sweet was a complete boss, but my favorite Undead will always be Lucifer. He had the most wacky strats back in the days when he was new to the scene and it was so awesome to watch. Lucifer still has the weirdest styles. Watching him FP is amazing too; his control is incredibly smooth. I thought Luci was still playing, but I don't think I've caught him streaming at all recently within the past month. | ||
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xxxxxxb
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ZerglingTwins
United States850 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
TL talks about every undead except for TeD. :| | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:48 xxxxxxb wrote: No love for the king of spiders, gostop? i picked ud solely because of him. Kim Dong Moon, the Nerubian Lord, sweet neighbor bro of Moon, named after a popular Korean card game, longest hair progamer, briefly tried GSL Open. Who could possibly forget him | ||
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:50 Azarkon wrote: TeD just won WCG. TL talks about every undead except for TeD. :| We're just being a bit nostalgic here. TeD is freaking amazing and it should be known one of the most historical victories just occurred here. But there's only so much you can talk about it. The memories just come floating back to me now, all the past WCGs, the WC3L, the NGL, ESWC (when it used to be good), BlizzCons....just everything. I was living a dream back then, everything was just so good and exciting. Today, some of that energy came rushing back. | ||
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babylon
8765 Posts
Granted, Lyn played pretty poorly this tournament overall, and TeD did beat him too, rofl. t__t Lyn | ||
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quannguyen
Vietnam1390 Posts
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figq
12519 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:21 babylon wrote: TeD's strategy: Wait for every single UD to retire so that nobody practices the MU anymore, come back and pwn. Grats, TeD, for making history. :D But seriously, did TeD's opponents make any visible mistakes? Like, was it clear they could have prepared better? Or was just TeD awesome?Closing ceremony going on A right now, breakdance, before that some Chinese imitators of SNSD. | ||
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mistax
United States415 Posts
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Mariosatr
294 Posts
Still happy for how well Adelscott did though, especially well compared to recently. MacSed also did great. | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
Also congrats to Parting, doing work! Really hope he can continue to show some really dominant protoss play. | ||
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SiroKO
France721 Posts
I hope things did not go too bad for him. | ||
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Hemula
Russian Federation1849 Posts
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Balthazar
United States277 Posts
On December 02 2012 22:22 The KY wrote: So what's the story with CombatEx? I confess I watched nothing of this tournament and was extremely surprised to see that he went 4-1 in his group and then took a game off of Parting. Also congrats to Parting, doing work! Really hope he can continue to show some really dominant protoss play. Here you go: + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Weirdkid
Singapore2431 Posts
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Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
On December 02 2012 22:58 Balthazar wrote: Here you go: + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cC2JwPtFZF4 haha that was great, even quite nice games actually. Especially liked the hold from parting in the last game, that zealot-stalker-stalker defense is quite good against proxy gates. | ||
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HeavenResign
United States702 Posts
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
On December 02 2012 18:31 Cinek357 wrote: If you ask about WC3, WCG is really unlucky tournament for Korean players. If I am not mistaken, ReminD and Lyn were the only players to win WCG's (in 2010 and 2011 respectively). It was always Chinese / foreigner tournament, especially with Sky and Grubby both winning 2 titles. Moon was awesome WC3 player | ||
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Valikyr
Sweden2653 Posts
On December 03 2012 03:05 DrowSwordsman wrote: were the WC3 finals a bo1? Only could find one game in the WCG vods. Nah bo3 of course. I would suggest watching the 3rd place match between Sky and Moon too. Some really cool games. | ||
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HeavenResign
United States702 Posts
On December 03 2012 04:38 Valikyr wrote: Nah bo3 of course. I would suggest watching the 3rd place match between Sky and Moon too. Some really cool games. Okay I guess I just missed where the vods were, they were kinda chopped up. Thanks! | ||
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openbox1
1393 Posts
Chill must be burning up with envy. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On December 03 2012 18:25 -Archangel- wrote: Wait waaat. CombatEx suddenly became good? When did this happen? Don't tell me he also stopped being annoying prick as well? Don't be silly, of course not | ||
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Fidel
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ChApFoU
France2982 Posts
Hater gonna hate :p | ||
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On December 04 2012 14:04 Fidel wrote: It is a pity that TL is not able to post any news to this tournament. Due to my work I would not get any information if these threads will not be here within SC2 community. that's why there are always these threads :D | ||
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