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Ladies and gentlemen, it is page 143 and any patchzerg, balance related commentary and the usual bashing etc from this point on will be met with harsh moderation.
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
November 30 2012 23:43 GMT
#2681
Good job Sniper
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
November 30 2012 23:43 GMT
#2682
On December 01 2012 08:43 HaXXspetten wrote:
it boggles my mind how Huk isn't eliminated yet

makes me worried for Ryung later tonight, maybe he's practiced only TvZ


He lost to Scarlett yesterday so it doesn't seem like he's in great form.

That or he's just scared of Canadians
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
November 30 2012 23:43 GMT
#2683
How the hell did Snute take out Life???
Play your best
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 30 2012 23:43 GMT
#2684
On December 01 2012 08:43 HaXXspetten wrote:
it boggles my mind how Huk isn't eliminated yet

makes me worried for Ryung later tonight, maybe he's practiced only TvZ

He looked pretty mediocre against Vampire in this season of GSL too. Maybe Vampire has even worse PvT than I thought
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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
November 30 2012 23:43 GMT
#2685
Some of these games today have been pretty awful.

Hopefully the GSL is awesome tonight :D
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
November 30 2012 23:43 GMT
#2686
What the hell is this noob creativity for madcatz commercials doing in the stream? holy shit
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
November 30 2012 23:44 GMT
#2687
On December 01 2012 08:41 Maloreon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 08:38 Zeon0 wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:35 Maloreon wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:33 Snowbear wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:31 FlyingTurtle wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:29 Snowbear wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:27 FlyingTurtle wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:23 MasterKang wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:22 Pandain wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:19 Snowbear wrote:
Can someone tell me why alive lost this one? I don't see his mistake


His mid game timing got absolutely crushed and from there it was an uphill battle which he almost did but couldn't quite micro like the God you need to to make TvZ comebacks.

But people probably forgot about that push and instead complain about balance.


and why do terran lose 90% of games if their mid-game push doesn't do insane damage? hmm...


Maybe because they invest majorly in the push and don't get up a nice infrastructure plus expansions? Maybe because pushes in general tend to hurt the player doing them if no damage is done? -__-


But the question is, why didn't the push do damage? I saw good tank spread, siege, and splits. I don't see what alive could've done better with that push (not saying Z is imba guys, just wondering what alive did wrong!!!).


It all depends on what the Zerg is investing in. Most zergs nowadays expect the pre-hive timing and focus on getting base defense and a strong defensive comp instead of getting more tech/expansions/macro infrastructure. If the Terran realizes that the Zerg is preparing in this manner, he can just scrap the push and tech/expand faster because the Zerg is investing in defense.


And tech to what? Ravens? BOOM ultralisks are in the house! Battlecruisers? Ghosts? Thors???


There is a really good game played by Thorzain recently (amongst others) that shows how to play this endgame comp. I have the replay saved on my PC but too lazy to get up and link it. I'm not going to discuss this anymore since I don't want to participate in any balance discussion and get banned.

I think there are solutions and they have already been shown by pros, it just takes a ton of patience to play the style and we probably won't see it consistently until well into HotS.

do you mean the 1h20min game on Cloud Kingdom vs Targa?


Yeah that one.

well they're not on the Korean pros level yet. Not worth discussing since foreigners play the game much slower than Koreans.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 23:44:46
November 30 2012 23:44 GMT
#2688
Too bad HuK's 4 gates and 7 gates don't work in PvZ like they do in PvT anymore lol.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 30 2012 23:44 GMT
#2689
On December 01 2012 08:41 figq wrote:
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On December 01 2012 08:36 Azarkon wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:31 figq wrote:
On December 01 2012 08:26 Prof wrote:
Xigua 22 slow lings???? And just think this guy is already in the money and he won't have to win a single game. Stupid tournament bracket setup.
They pay him for winning the Chinese regional.

They pay him for being the Chinese representative, because the potential of the Chinese market is huge, even if their best player may not be really as good as the top players from other regions. But still, it's not exactly free money, think of it as money added towards the prize for the Chinese regional itself.


Xigua is the grand son of one of the richest man in China - the man who OWNs the IG organization, which is the biggest Chinese eSports organization. Don't think he cares one little bit about the money he wins.

Good for him, but irrelevant for the discussion. We are talking about the IPL system, and if it allows a player to get money without winning a game.

For the love of christ, he won a tournament to get his seed.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
November 30 2012 23:44 GMT
#2690
I wonder if huk has ever used these builds
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10139 Posts
November 30 2012 23:44 GMT
#2691
No pause, no win.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 30 2012 23:44 GMT
#2692
On December 01 2012 08:43 HaXXspetten wrote:
it boggles my mind how Huk isn't eliminated yet

makes me worried for Ryung later tonight, maybe he's practiced only TvZ


Me to, he just does same all ins or random all ins, idk so rare to see him play different in pvz (idk how his pvt is).
When I think of something else, something will go here
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
November 30 2012 23:44 GMT
#2693
Anyone know what were the odds for the online betting stuff for Huk vs. Ryung game?
#1 Grubby Fan.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
November 30 2012 23:44 GMT
#2694
Channel that Parting soul!
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 30 2012 23:44 GMT
#2695
On December 01 2012 08:43 FakeDeath wrote:
How the hell did Snute take out Life???


He made a nydus
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
November 30 2012 23:44 GMT
#2696
On December 01 2012 08:43 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 08:43 HaXXspetten wrote:
it boggles my mind how Huk isn't eliminated yet

makes me worried for Ryung later tonight, maybe he's practiced only TvZ


He lost to Scarlett yesterday so it doesn't seem like he's in great form.

That or he's just scared of Canadians


I like the second hypothesis.
Terran & Potato Salad.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
November 30 2012 23:44 GMT
#2697
It's been a while, how's the tournament and games been?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
XiGua
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden3085 Posts
November 30 2012 23:45 GMT
#2698
HUK HUK HUK HUK

LIQUID EG HUUUUUUUUUUUUUK.
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
November 30 2012 23:45 GMT
#2699
On December 01 2012 08:44 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 08:43 HaXXspetten wrote:
it boggles my mind how Huk isn't eliminated yet

makes me worried for Ryung later tonight, maybe he's practiced only TvZ


Me to, he just does same all ins or random all ins, idk so rare to see him play different in pvz (idk how his pvt is).


pretty much the same, but gateway timing are good there.
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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 23:45:33
November 30 2012 23:45 GMT
#2700
On December 01 2012 08:44 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2012 08:43 HaXXspetten wrote:
it boggles my mind how Huk isn't eliminated yet

makes me worried for Ryung later tonight, maybe he's practiced only TvZ


Me to, he just does same all ins or random all ins, idk so rare to see him play different in pvz (idk how his pvt is).


Well, from the PvT we saw today.

He tried to 4gate, got scouted and cancelled into expo and then held a late attempt at a reactionary 1 base all in.

And then he 4 gated and won.

=p
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