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Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
November 30 2012 10:40 GMT
#881
Combat didn't beat Parting but he didn't get completely destroyed either.

Really solid performance, even more considering it's his first time in a big stage. Just wish he would go to more tournaments.
Everyday Girl's Day~!
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
November 30 2012 10:41 GMT
#882
On November 30 2012 19:39 goswser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 19:37 Hamboigahz wrote:
Are you guys for real with all this "OMG! How did Combat maek it to the quaterz. Do you really think he's a bad player? He's been playing the game for years and is better that 99.99% of the people that post here. He was ranked no. 1 NA GM ffs. Nobody is saying that you have to like him but don't disrespect the guys skills, that's just rude

He was only ranked #1 GM through streamcheating.

Ok. But anyone who saw the games today can say Hamboigahz's remark is legit nonetheless.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
November 30 2012 10:41 GMT
#883
On November 30 2012 19:38 ZerglingTwins wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 19:35 Lorch wrote:
Oh now I get whats wrong with our community. Not that not many casuals are playing, or shitty ui or menus or lack of any features.
It's the fact that a little bming gm cheater playing one of the best players in the world is more entertaining than watching 2 extremely good players go add it, I see, don't know whats wrong with you people but thats really sad. I say if WCG has any honor left they should just ban people like combatex...


What exactly did Combat-EX do to deserve a ban from WCG?


He was a cheater in BW basically, TL's still sore on that, also because of his past general behavior of not being mannered.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
ZerglingTwins
Profile Joined October 2012
United States850 Posts
November 30 2012 10:41 GMT
#884
On November 30 2012 19:39 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 19:38 ZerglingTwins wrote:
On November 30 2012 19:35 Lorch wrote:
Oh now I get whats wrong with our community. Not that not many casuals are playing, or shitty ui or menus or lack of any features.
It's the fact that a little bming gm cheater playing one of the best players in the world is more entertaining than watching 2 extremely good players go add it, I see, don't know whats wrong with you people but thats really sad. I say if WCG has any honor left they should just ban people like combatex...


What exactly did Combat-EX do to deserve a ban from WCG?


Being a known stream cheater? Thats enough in my book to ban him from every competition ever. You may as well just have NA pro gamers vote on it, because they are annoyed as fuck by his existence.


Pretty much TL elites hate him, youtube noobs loved him. If vote nationwide, not just pros, he will get the positive vote.
Searching for my twin ling brother.
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
November 30 2012 10:42 GMT
#885
That was the first time in a long time I was really excited to watch sc2. I watch all the tourneys but me and my friend in skype were laughing and game 2 was intense. Really hope to see more personality from players and more Combat in the future.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3674 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 10:43:42
November 30 2012 10:42 GMT
#886
On November 30 2012 19:40 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 19:35 Lorch wrote:
Oh now I get whats wrong with our community. Not that not many casuals are playing, or shitty ui or menus or lack of any features.
It's the fact that a little bming gm cheater playing one of the best players in the world is more entertaining than watching 2 extremely good players go add it, I see, don't know whats wrong with you people but thats really sad. I say if WCG has any honor left they should just ban people like combatex...

did he cheat in the series? no
was his game entertaining? yes
Almost an upset? yes
Did he bm? No, technically. unless you think typing in game is BM.

Standard game doesn't always produce the interesting game and that is what's wrong with SC2 right now.
I would prefer to watch that series 1 time than PvZ 10 times


I'm not talking about this game, somebody who has cheated in the past shouldn't even be allowed to try to qualify. Combatex got enough "2nd" chances from this community, in fact he has enough to probably give ever member of tl one, WCG, or any tournament organizer for that matter, should not allow someone like that to even play in their tournaments. And thats not even taking to account how much of a cheating sack of shit he was in star 1...

The fact that there are people within this community even defending someone like that is just fucking sad. If our community would have been in charge of savior's punishment he would probably be winning gsls atm...
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
November 30 2012 10:43 GMT
#887
On November 30 2012 19:42 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 19:40 ETisME wrote:
On November 30 2012 19:35 Lorch wrote:
Oh now I get whats wrong with our community. Not that not many casuals are playing, or shitty ui or menus or lack of any features.
It's the fact that a little bming gm cheater playing one of the best players in the world is more entertaining than watching 2 extremely good players go add it, I see, don't know whats wrong with you people but thats really sad. I say if WCG has any honor left they should just ban people like combatex...

did he cheat in the series? no
was his game entertaining? yes
Almost an upset? yes
Did he bm? No, technically. unless you think typing in game is BM.

Standard game doesn't always produce the interesting game and that is what's wrong with SC2 right now.
I would prefer to watch that series 1 time than PvZ 10 times


I'm not talking about this game, somebody who has cheated in the past shouldn't even be allowed to try to qualify. Combatex got enough "2nd" chances from this community, in fact he has enough to probably give ever member of tl one, WCG, or any tournament organizer for that matter, should not allow someone like that to even play in their tournaments.

im not familiar with his bw past. has he ever cheated in a tournament?
Maruprime.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
November 30 2012 10:43 GMT
#888
On November 30 2012 19:42 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 19:40 ETisME wrote:
On November 30 2012 19:35 Lorch wrote:
Oh now I get whats wrong with our community. Not that not many casuals are playing, or shitty ui or menus or lack of any features.
It's the fact that a little bming gm cheater playing one of the best players in the world is more entertaining than watching 2 extremely good players go add it, I see, don't know whats wrong with you people but thats really sad. I say if WCG has any honor left they should just ban people like combatex...

did he cheat in the series? no
was his game entertaining? yes
Almost an upset? yes
Did he bm? No, technically. unless you think typing in game is BM.

Standard game doesn't always produce the interesting game and that is what's wrong with SC2 right now.
I would prefer to watch that series 1 time than PvZ 10 times


I'm not talking about this game, somebody who has cheated in the past shouldn't even be allowed to try to qualify. Combatex got enough "2nd" chances from this community, in fact he has enough to probably give ever member of tl one, WCG, or any tournament organizer for that matter, should not allow someone like that to even play in their tournaments. And thats not even taking to account how much of a cheating sack of shit he was in star 1...


TT1's cheated before and came back, Combatex didn't, I will leave it at that.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 10:45:08
November 30 2012 10:43 GMT
#889
On November 30 2012 19:38 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 19:36 Hyperionnn wrote:
On November 30 2012 19:34 Type|NarutO wrote:
On November 30 2012 19:30 Caihead wrote:
On November 30 2012 19:29 GunSec wrote:
OMG history has been made, korea can only win gold first time in WCG lol


Pj (China) was silver in BW as late as 2007


It already happened 2003. Ogogo > FiSheYe > Grrrrr
and 2005 fOru > Android > Legionnaire
also 2007 Stork > Pj > Mondragon


I just remembered that Incontrol opened a thread saying (It was 2009 I guess) that foreigners will win WCG

It turned out to be the most one-sided WCG ever


He was probably practising to much for WCG to know how dominant TBLS was at the time :D .


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=71680

Well I found the thread and it was from 2008, still 2008 was really one sided as welll, koreans only dropped 1 game to foreigners
Hamboigahz
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia55 Posts
November 30 2012 10:43 GMT
#890
On November 30 2012 19:39 goswser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 19:37 Hamboigahz wrote:
Are you guys for real with all this "OMG! How did Combat maek it to the quaterz. Do you really think he's a bad player? He's been playing the game for years and is better that 99.99% of the people that post here. He was ranked no. 1 NA GM ffs. Nobody is saying that you have to like him but don't disrespect the guys skills, that's just rude

He was only ranked #1 GM through streamcheating.


Prove it
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
November 30 2012 10:44 GMT
#891
On November 30 2012 19:42 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 19:40 ETisME wrote:
On November 30 2012 19:35 Lorch wrote:
Oh now I get whats wrong with our community. Not that not many casuals are playing, or shitty ui or menus or lack of any features.
It's the fact that a little bming gm cheater playing one of the best players in the world is more entertaining than watching 2 extremely good players go add it, I see, don't know whats wrong with you people but thats really sad. I say if WCG has any honor left they should just ban people like combatex...

did he cheat in the series? no
was his game entertaining? yes
Almost an upset? yes
Did he bm? No, technically. unless you think typing in game is BM.

Standard game doesn't always produce the interesting game and that is what's wrong with SC2 right now.
I would prefer to watch that series 1 time than PvZ 10 times


I'm not talking about this game, somebody who has cheated in the past shouldn't even be allowed to try to qualify. Combatex got enough "2nd" chances from this community, in fact he has enough to probably give ever member of tl one, WCG, or any tournament organizer for that matter, should not allow someone like that to even play in their tournaments. And thats not even taking to account how much of a cheating sack of shit he was in star 1...

Cheating in ladder matches? People like TT1, Dimaga, etc all cheated in ACTUAL tournaments in BW. Don't get on your high horse for stream cheating when other players who have done far worse have been forgiven.

Both are wrong, one is worse than the other.
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
November 30 2012 10:44 GMT
#892
On November 30 2012 19:39 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 19:38 ZerglingTwins wrote:
On November 30 2012 19:35 Lorch wrote:
Oh now I get whats wrong with our community. Not that not many casuals are playing, or shitty ui or menus or lack of any features.
It's the fact that a little bming gm cheater playing one of the best players in the world is more entertaining than watching 2 extremely good players go add it, I see, don't know whats wrong with you people but thats really sad. I say if WCG has any honor left they should just ban people like combatex...


What exactly did Combat-EX do to deserve a ban from WCG?


Being a known stream cheater? Thats enough in my book to ban him from every competition ever. You may as well just have NA pro gamers vote on it, because they are annoyed as fuck by his existence.

I'm glad mediocre players who play boring styles and never win anyway don't get to decide what I get to watch.
Creator of sc2unmasked.com
Ramen_
Profile Joined March 2011
Russian Federation23 Posts
November 30 2012 10:44 GMT
#893
Will MacSed and Jim play today?
1Dhalism
Profile Joined June 2012
862 Posts
November 30 2012 10:44 GMT
#894
On November 30 2012 19:40 Zinnwaldite wrote:
Did MKP cry?

yes. He also was hesitant to shake Lowely's hand.
source: lowely on the russian stream.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3674 Posts
November 30 2012 10:44 GMT
#895
On November 30 2012 19:44 MuseMike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 19:42 Lorch wrote:
On November 30 2012 19:40 ETisME wrote:
On November 30 2012 19:35 Lorch wrote:
Oh now I get whats wrong with our community. Not that not many casuals are playing, or shitty ui or menus or lack of any features.
It's the fact that a little bming gm cheater playing one of the best players in the world is more entertaining than watching 2 extremely good players go add it, I see, don't know whats wrong with you people but thats really sad. I say if WCG has any honor left they should just ban people like combatex...

did he cheat in the series? no
was his game entertaining? yes
Almost an upset? yes
Did he bm? No, technically. unless you think typing in game is BM.

Standard game doesn't always produce the interesting game and that is what's wrong with SC2 right now.
I would prefer to watch that series 1 time than PvZ 10 times


I'm not talking about this game, somebody who has cheated in the past shouldn't even be allowed to try to qualify. Combatex got enough "2nd" chances from this community, in fact he has enough to probably give ever member of tl one, WCG, or any tournament organizer for that matter, should not allow someone like that to even play in their tournaments. And thats not even taking to account how much of a cheating sack of shit he was in star 1...

Cheating in ladder matches? People like TT1, Dimaga, etc all cheated in ACTUAL tournaments in BW. Don't get on your high horse for stream cheating when other players who have done far worse have been forgiven.

Both are wrong, one is worse than the other.


When did I say that I was fine with TT1, Dimaga etc. still being allowed to play in tournaments?
lFrost
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States295 Posts
November 30 2012 10:44 GMT
#896
very nice job from combatex. gets first in his group against some reputable europeans. then outplays parting in a non-cheese game and nearly takes the series from him as well. cant deny his skill level even if he stream cheated in the past.
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
November 30 2012 10:45 GMT
#897
On November 30 2012 19:44 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2012 19:44 MuseMike wrote:
On November 30 2012 19:42 Lorch wrote:
On November 30 2012 19:40 ETisME wrote:
On November 30 2012 19:35 Lorch wrote:
Oh now I get whats wrong with our community. Not that not many casuals are playing, or shitty ui or menus or lack of any features.
It's the fact that a little bming gm cheater playing one of the best players in the world is more entertaining than watching 2 extremely good players go add it, I see, don't know whats wrong with you people but thats really sad. I say if WCG has any honor left they should just ban people like combatex...

did he cheat in the series? no
was his game entertaining? yes
Almost an upset? yes
Did he bm? No, technically. unless you think typing in game is BM.

Standard game doesn't always produce the interesting game and that is what's wrong with SC2 right now.
I would prefer to watch that series 1 time than PvZ 10 times


I'm not talking about this game, somebody who has cheated in the past shouldn't even be allowed to try to qualify. Combatex got enough "2nd" chances from this community, in fact he has enough to probably give ever member of tl one, WCG, or any tournament organizer for that matter, should not allow someone like that to even play in their tournaments. And thats not even taking to account how much of a cheating sack of shit he was in star 1...

Cheating in ladder matches? People like TT1, Dimaga, etc all cheated in ACTUAL tournaments in BW. Don't get on your high horse for stream cheating when other players who have done far worse have been forgiven.

Both are wrong, one is worse than the other.


When did I say that I was fine with TT1, Dimaga etc. still being allowed to play in tournaments?

You really think stream cheating ladder games should ban you from tournaments? It is stupid to do, but ban? That's a good one.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
November 30 2012 10:45 GMT
#898
Parting has to protect the legacy and pride of Korea now ,. no pressure ...
bigbeau
Profile Joined October 2010
368 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-30 10:48:37
November 30 2012 10:45 GMT
#899
I can tell you exactly what's wrong with our community. Not the fact that 'a little bming gm cheater playing one of the best players in the world is more entertaining than watching 2 extremely good players go add (sic) it'. It's the fact that the people in the community think that's the problem with the community lmao. I don't have anything against or for CombatEX, but I'd rather him be unbanned from everything, regardless of what he did in the past, and have people like Lorch permabanned from teamliquid.

The problem with the community is that no one wants to watch exciting series. They think a drawn out macro fest is the 'correct' play when there is no such thing. Whenever someone produces an exciting game, it's because there's not a drawn out macro game, and then they get ostracized for cheesing. FUCKING MVP gets shit for cheesing and hes arguably the best SC2 player so far.

As soon as the community gets over the idiotic idea that there is a way to play the game, then it'll open the doors to a whole new world, both for pros not feeling obligated to play 'right' and for the players themselves who might learn to stop cheese if they would respect it

Edit: I would like to add, that although stream cheating on ladder is low, and I in no way condone it, it breaks no rules of literally anything. Doesn't break Blizzard TOS, doesn't break tournament rules, doesn't break the law, doesn't break the stream site's TOS.
Carefoot
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada410 Posts
November 30 2012 10:45 GMT
#900
On November 30 2012 19:35 Lorch wrote:
Oh now I get whats wrong with our community. Not that not many casuals are playing, or shitty ui or menus or lack of any features.
It's the fact that a little bming gm cheater playing one of the best players in the world is more entertaining than watching 2 extremely good players go add it, I see, don't know whats wrong with you people but thats really sad. I say if WCG has any honor left they should just ban people like combatex...


Actually players who talk smack in MMA are respected, and if the world was Mad Max people like you would get their head used for a soup bowl.
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