On November 20 2012 19:38 Insoleet wrote:Their is no best army. There are only counters. And this one was not the counter of Hyun composition.
Problem is there is no better 'counter'.
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Elwar
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On November 20 2012 19:38 Insoleet wrote:Their is no best army. There are only counters. And this one was not the counter of Hyun composition. Problem is there is no better 'counter'. | ||
FataLe
New Zealand4481 Posts
On November 20 2012 19:36 FlyingTurtle wrote: Show nested quote + On November 20 2012 19:34 FataLe wrote: On November 20 2012 19:32 FlyingTurtle wrote: On November 20 2012 19:30 Misacampo wrote: Creator literally played perfectly. Denied hyuns 5th constantly, was on 5 bases vs 4 for the majority of the game, multipronged attacks, harassment, slowly lost supply to make room for carriers. But infestor. g fucking g He move-commanded his mothership into the infestors and clumped carriers for fungals. I don't see how Creator played perfectly; that last engagement was much more disastrous for him than Artosis and Tasteless made it sound. He didn't move command. He got a vortex off then got fungaled than neuralled. His vortex was terrible, grabbing barely anything. In fact, the addition of a mothership in the composition was questionable to begin with, since he didn't have the splash and since Hyun had neural. You can't risk going in for a superior vortex when you'll just get neuralled/fungalled. He got an okay vortex which was already more than he could have hoped for in that position. Wasn't really questionable at all. It controls space and also allows you to fight - 1/2 - 2/3 army instead of the entire thing at once. It wasn't required, but he wasn't coming out ahead in that fight without it. | ||
Mikelius
Germany517 Posts
On November 20 2012 19:38 Insoleet wrote: Show nested quote + On November 20 2012 19:37 Hypemeup wrote: On November 20 2012 19:35 polishedturd wrote: On November 20 2012 19:33 Salteador Neo wrote: On November 20 2012 19:31 polishedturd wrote: On November 20 2012 19:30 Misacampo wrote: Creator literally played perfectly. Denied hyuns 5th constantly, was on 5 bases vs 4 for the majority of the game, multipronged attacks, harassment, slowly lost supply to make room for carriers. But infestor. g fucking g misread hyun's build, trapped in his base by just 9 mutas, let hyun make nothing but drones and broodlords, went for a terrible endgame composition hurp durp That horrible endgame composition is the strongest army protoss can make xD Maek Infestor hurp durp no it isn't im not saying protoss endgame is comparable to zerg but carrier/voidray mothership blows It is the best protoss army in theory, and yet it is garbage compared to the zergs. Thats the issue. Their is no best army. There are only counters. And this one was not the counter of Hyun composition. Please tell us what counters Hyun's army. | ||
Giku
Netherlands368 Posts
On November 20 2012 19:38 sitromit wrote: Show nested quote + On November 20 2012 19:37 Hypemeup wrote: On November 20 2012 19:35 polishedturd wrote: On November 20 2012 19:33 Salteador Neo wrote: On November 20 2012 19:31 polishedturd wrote: On November 20 2012 19:30 Misacampo wrote: Creator literally played perfectly. Denied hyuns 5th constantly, was on 5 bases vs 4 for the majority of the game, multipronged attacks, harassment, slowly lost supply to make room for carriers. But infestor. g fucking g misread hyun's build, trapped in his base by just 9 mutas, let hyun make nothing but drones and broodlords, went for a terrible endgame composition hurp durp That horrible endgame composition is the strongest army protoss can make xD Maek Infestor hurp durp no it isn't im not saying protoss endgame is comparable to zerg but carrier/voidray mothership blows It is the best protoss army in theory, and yet it is garbage compared to the zergs. Thats the issue. And Zerg army pre Broodlords is garbage compared to Protoss. Creator was going for a 3 base timing, Hyun tricked him with only 9 Mutas, Creator missed his timing, lost, end of story. This. If you know the end-game is so strong, don't let him get to the end-game. Same with the Protoss Deathball etc etc | ||
Kasaraki
Denmark7115 Posts
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Yello
Germany7411 Posts
On November 20 2012 19:38 Insoleet wrote: Show nested quote + On November 20 2012 19:37 Hypemeup wrote: On November 20 2012 19:35 polishedturd wrote: On November 20 2012 19:33 Salteador Neo wrote: On November 20 2012 19:31 polishedturd wrote: On November 20 2012 19:30 Misacampo wrote: Creator literally played perfectly. Denied hyuns 5th constantly, was on 5 bases vs 4 for the majority of the game, multipronged attacks, harassment, slowly lost supply to make room for carriers. But infestor. g fucking g misread hyun's build, trapped in his base by just 9 mutas, let hyun make nothing but drones and broodlords, went for a terrible endgame composition hurp durp That horrible endgame composition is the strongest army protoss can make xD Maek Infestor hurp durp no it isn't im not saying protoss endgame is comparable to zerg but carrier/voidray mothership blows It is the best protoss army in theory, and yet it is garbage compared to the zergs. Thats the issue. Their is no best army. There are only counters. And this one was not the counter of Hyun composition. We should change that old joke. 'An Infestor walks into the bar. There is no counter' :D | ||
FlyingTurtle
United States248 Posts
On November 20 2012 19:35 Elwar wrote: Hyun was turtling behind a zillion spines and spores, vortex requires your slow mothership to come to a complete halt. There was no conceivable scenario in which Hyun does not completely mess up where the protoss ever wins in that position. And Creator didn't friggin' move command the mothership. Thats a mothership that is attempting a vortex. Do you ever wonder why these days more zergs seem to get vortex' off than the protoss who own the mothership? Its actually easier for them, positionally. Attempting the vortex by running forward is basically equal to a move command for all it accomplishes. Even including the mothership in the composition was a big mistake, since he had no Archons. Also, there was no reason for him to attack the turtle position; he could have stayed on equal bases with Hyun. | ||
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On November 20 2012 19:39 opterown wrote: soul push? Rage push. | ||
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On November 20 2012 19:39 opterown wrote: soul push? Looks like Creator's soul got already crushed. Let's move on to some TvT | ||
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