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Twilight Sparkle
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia235 Posts
November 20 2012 09:36 GMT
#361
On November 20 2012 18:34 Salteador Neo wrote:
I missed the start of this game. Did creator make any mistake early on?

He tried an early +1 attack warp prism timing on Hyun's third which was completely shut down and Hyun responded with a giant roach drop before Creator could make any more stuff.
TheRooster
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden719 Posts
November 20 2012 09:36 GMT
#362
On November 20 2012 18:34 Salteador Neo wrote:
I missed the start of this game. Did creator make any mistake early on?

He did a 4gate timing with a prism that didnt do that much damage, but nothing major
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TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 20 2012 09:37 GMT
#363
On November 20 2012 18:36 Sc2Null wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 18:35 TheBB wrote:
Creator vs. HyuN

Creator wins (42.65%):
      3-1: 18.66%
      3-2: 23.99%

HyuN wins (57.35%):
      3-0: 18.36%
      3-1: 20.99%
      3-2: 17.99%

Most likely winner: HyuN (57.35%)
Most likely outcome: Creator 3-2 HyuN (23.99%)

false, he did a timing that did no damage

What?
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andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 20 2012 09:37 GMT
#364
On November 20 2012 18:36 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 18:35 andaylin wrote:
On November 20 2012 18:34 Insoleet wrote:
On November 20 2012 18:33 Misacampo wrote:
hyun just stays on roach ling and 65 drones all game long... roaches are way too fucking cost efficient vs toss


You need very good control and macro to do so. Its plike perfect play from Hyun.

Actually 3 base roach max isn't too hard lol, but the map is pretty bad, drop the main, snipe the third.

That was pretty far from the typical 3 base roach...

I'm so sorry, he managed to squeeze out a fourth hatch even though roachling is so expensive.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 20 2012 09:37 GMT
#365
On November 20 2012 18:36 andaylin wrote:
Isn't Belshir a terrible map for Creator/P as well?


How many PvZ games have we really seen on Bel'shir to make that claim?
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
November 20 2012 09:37 GMT
#366
That really went as expected. Love me some HyuN.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4532 Posts
November 20 2012 09:37 GMT
#367
On November 20 2012 18:36 Sc2Null wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 18:35 TheBB wrote:
Creator vs. HyuN

Creator wins (42.65%):
      3-1: 18.66%
      3-2: 23.99%

HyuN wins (57.35%):
      3-0: 18.36%
      3-1: 20.99%
      3-2: 17.99%

Most likely winner: HyuN (57.35%)
Most likely outcome: Creator 3-2 HyuN (23.99%)


false, he did a timing that did no damage

Quoting a failed quote.
hi. big fan.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
November 20 2012 09:37 GMT
#368
On November 20 2012 18:36 andaylin wrote:
Isn't Belshir a terrible map for Creator/P as well?


Looks a little bit better, don't think we have seen to many ZvP's here tho
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
November 20 2012 09:37 GMT
#369
What are you guys talking about? Sure the map is a bit tough, but Creator didn't help himself at all with his Warp Prism +1 attack getting shut down completely. Ofc he would be hard pressed to hold a third against such drop play.
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Twilight Sparkle
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia235 Posts
November 20 2012 09:37 GMT
#370
On November 20 2012 18:37 TheBB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 18:36 Sc2Null wrote:
On November 20 2012 18:35 TheBB wrote:
Creator vs. HyuN

Creator wins (42.65%):
      3-1: 18.66%
      3-2: 23.99%

HyuN wins (57.35%):
      3-0: 18.36%
      3-1: 20.99%
      3-2: 17.99%

Most likely winner: HyuN (57.35%)
Most likely outcome: Creator 3-2 HyuN (23.99%)

false, he did a timing that did no damage

What?

I'm guessing he meant to quote the post above yours.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
November 20 2012 09:38 GMT
#371
Wow Creator got raped on maps.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
November 20 2012 09:38 GMT
#372
TvZ: 8-14 (36.4%) [ Games ]
ZvP: 3-6 (33.3%) [ Games ]
PvT: 8-10 (44.4%) [ Games ]

Doesn't seem too bad for PvZ or ?
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-20 09:38:26
November 20 2012 09:38 GMT
#373
On November 20 2012 18:36 andaylin wrote:
Isn't Belshir a terrible map for Creator/P as well?


Yes.

Well, it's bad for 3base play and really good for 2base play.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
November 20 2012 09:38 GMT
#374
Bel'shir Winter is still the best Bel'shir.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
November 20 2012 09:38 GMT
#375
On November 20 2012 18:37 Flonomenalz wrote:
What are you guys talking about? Sure the map is a bit tough, but Creator didn't help himself at all with his Warp Prism +1 attack getting shut down completely. Ofc he would be hard pressed to hold a third against such drop play.


Yeah i don't get the complaints either, and i'm rooting for Creator here. His timing didn't work and Hyun made the right call to go for roach ling drops.
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
November 20 2012 09:38 GMT
#376
On November 20 2012 18:37 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 18:36 andaylin wrote:
Isn't Belshir a terrible map for Creator/P as well?


How many PvZ games have we really seen on Bel'shir to make that claim?

It's 2-2 so far in Code S and A.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_5/Code_S_Statistics
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012_Global_StarCraft_II_League_Season_5/Code_A_Statistics
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
November 20 2012 09:39 GMT
#377
On November 20 2012 18:37 andaylin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 18:36 bo1b wrote:
On November 20 2012 18:35 andaylin wrote:
On November 20 2012 18:34 Insoleet wrote:
On November 20 2012 18:33 Misacampo wrote:
hyun just stays on roach ling and 65 drones all game long... roaches are way too fucking cost efficient vs toss


You need very good control and macro to do so. Its plike perfect play from Hyun.

Actually 3 base roach max isn't too hard lol, but the map is pretty bad, drop the main, snipe the third.

That was pretty far from the typical 3 base roach...

I'm so sorry, he managed to squeeze out a fourth hatch even though roachling is so expensive.

More talking about what the Protoss did. But your completely right everything that zerg does is faceroll my mistake.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9296 Posts
November 20 2012 09:39 GMT
#378
I still can't belive that I'm watching gsl in good quality.
You're now breathing manually
Happygreek
Profile Joined April 2012
United States220 Posts
November 20 2012 09:39 GMT
#379
On November 20 2012 18:37 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 18:36 andaylin wrote:
Isn't Belshir a terrible map for Creator/P as well?


How many PvZ games have we really seen on Bel'shir to make that claim?


It's more arguable that we think it isn't a good PvZ map. Needs more data.
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
November 20 2012 09:40 GMT
#380
On November 20 2012 18:37 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2012 18:36 Sc2Null wrote:
On November 20 2012 18:35 TheBB wrote:
Creator vs. HyuN

Creator wins (42.65%):
      3-1: 18.66%
      3-2: 23.99%

HyuN wins (57.35%):
      3-0: 18.36%
      3-1: 20.99%
      3-2: 17.99%

Most likely winner: HyuN (57.35%)
Most likely outcome: Creator 3-2 HyuN (23.99%)


false, he did a timing that did no damage

Quoting a failed quote.


Let me break it down for the people who don't understand;

creator did a +1 zealot timing 4gate with warp prism..he did no damage..
...
lost the game
...
hyun profitted
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