On October 20 2012 18:42 ardi wrote:
Even MVP's Sponsor would agree: "Life's Good"
Even MVP's Sponsor would agree: "Life's Good"
You win.
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MooMu
Canada615 Posts
On October 20 2012 18:42 ardi wrote: Even MVP's Sponsor would agree: "Life's Good" You win. | ||
MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On October 20 2012 18:37 Awesomeness wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2012 18:34 HaXXspetten wrote: On October 20 2012 18:33 Havik_ wrote: On October 20 2012 18:30 Wildmoon wrote: the best zerg: Life the best terran: Mvp the best Protoss: Rain I am just stating obvious.lol I'm still of the opinion that Stephano is the better Zerg, but he needs to stop fucking around and play in GSL already. As much as I am for the whole thing that Stephano is without a doubt Code S caliber.... just no How is Life better because he won one tournament, while Stephano has been consistently producing results for a year? The GSL bias is kinda ridiculous sometimes. 2-0 NesTea 2-0 JYP 2-0 Happy 2-1 Seed 3-1 MarineKing 3-0 TaeJa 4-3 Mvp Add to that the fact that he crushes online tournaments and qualifiers (TSL4 2nd place? Not bad. Also he earned his Code A spot online), his 9-2 GSTL record with ZeNEX the previous season... yeah I like Stephano but you can't possibly argue he's better than Life. Life is probably the best zerg on the planet at the moment, with DongRaeGu, Leenock and Symbol having faltered quite a bit. | ||
Goshdarnit
United States540 Posts
On October 20 2012 18:42 ardi wrote: Even MVP's Sponsor would agree: "Life's Good" HEYYOHH! WP. | ||
Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On October 20 2012 18:43 Fjodorov wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2012 18:40 {ToT}ColmA wrote: even terran ( or mvp fans ) have to admit that the last game had nothing to do with balance, mvp played like shit, he had an advantage and he moves out with like 80% of his army which should never be done while meching and then he lost it, reinforcing as mech is at that stage of the game close to impossible and zerg can just gain the momentum to crush u (which life did). If mvp would ve played a passive game getting his 170-200 supply timings right there would be a close to zero chance (if he doesnt screw up) to lose that game i am pissed too that mvp lost, but blaming anyone but mvp is just retarded Do you meant the attack where Mvp destroyed Life's 4th base while defending his own 4th base (the planetary)`? I think Mvp thought he would be so ahead if he was 4 base against 3 base zerg even if he lost that army. He destroy Life's 5th base. Non mining. Yes, he defended his 4th. But after that Life had a whole new roach/infestor army and MVP had half of the army he had a minute ago. It was a dumb attack. | ||
DarkPlasmaBall
United States43759 Posts
On October 20 2012 18:42 ardi wrote: Even MVP's Sponsor would agree: "Life's Good" Hahahaha well played ![]() | ||
Dudasc
Brazil286 Posts
On October 20 2012 18:43 MooMu wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2012 18:41 Havik_ wrote: On October 20 2012 18:37 Talack wrote: On October 20 2012 18:33 Havik_ wrote: On October 20 2012 18:30 Wildmoon wrote: the best zerg: Life the best terran: Mvp the best Protoss: Rain I am just stating obvious.lol I'm still of the opinion that Stephano is the better Zerg, but he needs to stop fucking around and play in GSL already. Stephano does very poorly vs people who have prepared extensively for him and does well in ladder-style tournaments like MLG. In the GSL you will have an entire team of people dedicated to figuring out how to abuse your style (which stephano is rooted in 100%, he is a stylist player) and how to counter it most effectively. Honestly I would not expect stephano to do well at all in the GSL, he`s simply not the kind of player who will excel in those circumstances. That being said, if all zergs would plan out their attacks like stephano does then i doubt we`d ever see a less than 90% zerg win rate in tournaments. That's the thing though. Haven't people been studying Stephano for over a year now? And they still can't stop him? I think he's best Zerg. I can't call Life the best Zerg yet. He won tonight and got 2nd in TSL4, but other than that, he doesn't have many results. Yeah he's always been good, but doesn't have too many results. Ridiculous. Stephano needs to compete with the best to be judged the best. All he does is skirt around the fray. He's an awesome player but calling him best is stupid. exactly Stephano is FAR inferior compared to life, looks like people didnt even watch this GSL. Jesus, some fans are so blind. I love stephano myself but you cant deny that life is superior | ||
HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
On October 20 2012 18:45 MooMu wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2012 18:42 ardi wrote: Even MVP's Sponsor would agree: "Life's Good" You win. ...they used the same pun for the semis recap >.< | ||
GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
Amazing artist but so unknown. | ||
WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On October 20 2012 18:42 ardi wrote: Even MVP's Sponsor would agree: "Life's Good" Hahahaha, so good. You win the thread | ||
tylerf
739 Posts
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Cele
Germany4016 Posts
On October 20 2012 18:43 Chill Penguin wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2012 18:25 Big J wrote: I wanna go back to that moment Mvp had this brainfart thought of pushing through the middle with a thorbased - A THORBASED as in "LATEGAMESETUP, DON'T PUSH RIGHT NOW" - army to kill a hatchery, not even drones, just a hatchery. I wanna go back and slap him. Really hard in his face. Tell him that this isn't ladder. That this is a GSL finals. A deciding game. You don't flip a coin like that against the best opponent in the world. I really want to slap him for that, make him not do that push, win that trophy. This pretty much sums up my feelings. I feel so frustrated because I wanted him to win so bad, but at the same time I'm comforted that he lost due to poor play and not due to any balance shenanigans. If you want to hurt your "favorite" player of whom you are a "fan" physically for not fulfilling your projection of sc2 ego you should visit a shrink. Im dead serious. Thats hooligan behavior. | ||
letian
Germany4221 Posts
As for the balance, I don't really enjoy the variety of SC2, it is poor. But I totally agree with Artosis blog post, SC was not balanced before BW at all too. Let us see if HoTs makes us stay and enjoy SC2 the way we all did BW. Cause if not, I shall be sad. GJ Life, I rooted for you | ||
babylon
8765 Posts
On October 20 2012 18:46 GinNtoniC wrote: Kind of off topic, but I'm completely blown away by the fact that they played Tristan Prettyman during the winning picture collage. Amazing artist but so unknown. I actually copied down the lyrics to look up the song. Glad for that; she sounds like a great singer. ![]() | ||
MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
On October 20 2012 18:46 Dudasc wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2012 18:43 MooMu wrote: On October 20 2012 18:41 Havik_ wrote: On October 20 2012 18:37 Talack wrote: On October 20 2012 18:33 Havik_ wrote: On October 20 2012 18:30 Wildmoon wrote: the best zerg: Life the best terran: Mvp the best Protoss: Rain I am just stating obvious.lol I'm still of the opinion that Stephano is the better Zerg, but he needs to stop fucking around and play in GSL already. Stephano does very poorly vs people who have prepared extensively for him and does well in ladder-style tournaments like MLG. In the GSL you will have an entire team of people dedicated to figuring out how to abuse your style (which stephano is rooted in 100%, he is a stylist player) and how to counter it most effectively. Honestly I would not expect stephano to do well at all in the GSL, he`s simply not the kind of player who will excel in those circumstances. That being said, if all zergs would plan out their attacks like stephano does then i doubt we`d ever see a less than 90% zerg win rate in tournaments. That's the thing though. Haven't people been studying Stephano for over a year now? And they still can't stop him? I think he's best Zerg. I can't call Life the best Zerg yet. He won tonight and got 2nd in TSL4, but other than that, he doesn't have many results. Yeah he's always been good, but doesn't have too many results. Ridiculous. Stephano needs to compete with the best to be judged the best. All he does is skirt around the fray. He's an awesome player but calling him best is stupid. exactly Stephano is FAR inferior compared to life, looks like people didnt even watch this GSL. Jesus, some fans are so blind. I love stephano myself but you cant deny that life is superior The thing I've come to realize is that most people don't really know the scene that well, they just follow the most popular players and assume that because they're popular they're also the best. (which is probably true for Mvp) Such a stupid logic, but what are you going to do. | ||
Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On October 20 2012 18:47 Cele wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2012 18:43 Chill Penguin wrote: On October 20 2012 18:25 Big J wrote: I wanna go back to that moment Mvp had this brainfart thought of pushing through the middle with a thorbased - A THORBASED as in "LATEGAMESETUP, DON'T PUSH RIGHT NOW" - army to kill a hatchery, not even drones, just a hatchery. I wanna go back and slap him. Really hard in his face. Tell him that this isn't ladder. That this is a GSL finals. A deciding game. You don't flip a coin like that against the best opponent in the world. I really want to slap him for that, make him not do that push, win that trophy. This pretty much sums up my feelings. I feel so frustrated because I wanted him to win so bad, but at the same time I'm comforted that he lost due to poor play and not due to any balance shenanigans. If you want to hurt your "favorite" player of whom you are a "fan" physically for not fulfilling your projection of sc2 ego you should visit a shrink. Im dead serious. Thats hooligan behavior. There are various forms of slapping ![]() | ||
Awesomeness
Germany1361 Posts
On October 20 2012 18:41 Fjodorov wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2012 18:37 Awesomeness wrote: On October 20 2012 18:34 HaXXspetten wrote: On October 20 2012 18:33 Havik_ wrote: On October 20 2012 18:30 Wildmoon wrote: the best zerg: Life the best terran: Mvp the best Protoss: Rain I am just stating obvious.lol I'm still of the opinion that Stephano is the better Zerg, but he needs to stop fucking around and play in GSL already. As much as I am for the whole thing that Stephano is without a doubt Code S caliber.... just no How is Life better because he won one tournament, while Stephano has been consistently producing results for a year? The GSL bias is kinda ridiculous sometimes. haha. Can you be a sc2 fan and not be GSL "biased". You cant compare anything stephano has won to a GSL trophy. So by that logic jjakji is more accomplished than marineking. Yes winning GSL is huge and certanly bigger than anyhting Stephano or Leenock won, but in the great scheme of things I still consider those guys to be better zerg-players. Life has yet to prove that he can produce results like that on a consistent basis and therefore isn't the "best zerg" YET imo. | ||
gh0stsquall
United States245 Posts
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Exarl25
1887 Posts
On October 20 2012 18:43 Fjodorov wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2012 18:40 {ToT}ColmA wrote: even terran ( or mvp fans ) have to admit that the last game had nothing to do with balance, mvp played like shit, he had an advantage and he moves out with like 80% of his army which should never be done while meching and then he lost it, reinforcing as mech is at that stage of the game close to impossible and zerg can just gain the momentum to crush u (which life did). If mvp would ve played a passive game getting his 170-200 supply timings right there would be a close to zero chance (if he doesnt screw up) to lose that game i am pissed too that mvp lost, but blaming anyone but mvp is just retarded Do you meant the attack where Mvp destroyed Life's 4th base while defending his own 4th base (the planetary)`? I think Mvp thought he would be so ahead if he was 4 base against 3 base zerg even if he lost that army. No, losing the army would be disastrous. He thought he could get out before Life responded, he overextended and paid for it. | ||
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goiflin
Canada1218 Posts
On October 20 2012 18:37 Awesomeness wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2012 18:34 HaXXspetten wrote: On October 20 2012 18:33 Havik_ wrote: On October 20 2012 18:30 Wildmoon wrote: the best zerg: Life the best terran: Mvp the best Protoss: Rain I am just stating obvious.lol I'm still of the opinion that Stephano is the better Zerg, but he needs to stop fucking around and play in GSL already. As much as I am for the whole thing that Stephano is without a doubt Code S caliber.... just no How is Life better because he won one tournament, while Stephano has been consistently producing results for a year? The GSL bias is kinda ridiculous sometimes. I would say that, at the moment, life is the best zerg in the world. I would say that Stephano is the most consistent, since he's been doing so well for so long. You also have to remember that the GSL does in fact, have the best conditions and highest density of skilled players in any tournament. And Stephano has never played in it. Life has, and he won it. The people he knocked out weren't pushovers, either. | ||
vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On October 20 2012 18:45 Sub40APM wrote: Show nested quote + On October 20 2012 18:43 Fjodorov wrote: On October 20 2012 18:40 {ToT}ColmA wrote: even terran ( or mvp fans ) have to admit that the last game had nothing to do with balance, mvp played like shit, he had an advantage and he moves out with like 80% of his army which should never be done while meching and then he lost it, reinforcing as mech is at that stage of the game close to impossible and zerg can just gain the momentum to crush u (which life did). If mvp would ve played a passive game getting his 170-200 supply timings right there would be a close to zero chance (if he doesnt screw up) to lose that game i am pissed too that mvp lost, but blaming anyone but mvp is just retarded Do you meant the attack where Mvp destroyed Life's 4th base while defending his own 4th base (the planetary)`? I think Mvp thought he would be so ahead if he was 4 base against 3 base zerg even if he lost that army. He destroy Life's 5th base. Non mining. Yes, he defended his 4th. But after that Life had a whole new roach/infestor army and MVP had half of the army he had a minute ago. It was a dumb attack. Yes, he did lose thors. But he had to do it. Even if he didn't, he would have had 30 roaches charging into his fourth and his tank count wasn't high enough. The reason why mech is so fragile is the thor/tank balance. Mvp choose to be thor heavy and Life made him pay with the roaches. If he went tank heavy, Life could mass mutas. It is pretty much a pick your poison. | ||
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