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Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
October 20 2012 09:38 GMT
#5401
On October 20 2012 18:37 FakeDeath wrote:
You know when a player win GSL Code S as a first Royal Roader.
He is successful as a 15 year old.
Slaying the the terran people who were claiming is a bonjwa MVP.

He is on to great things.

the way jjakji and leenock were onto great things right?
lolmlg
Profile Joined November 2011
619 Posts
October 20 2012 09:38 GMT
#5402
On October 20 2012 18:36 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 20 2012 18:34 openbox1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 18:34 Dodgin wrote:
On October 20 2012 18:33 openbox1 wrote:
oh well, another 17k in the bank for MvP. I think this pushes him way to the front of the pack since MC and Nestea haven't been winning as much?


I think MC is still slightly ahead.


Still?? Wow. Must be nice to be Boss Toss.


Yeah, true that, MC would still be significantly ahead even without the OSL 3rd place monies that he's just earned today. Hehe ^^

That series JUST happened. Tons of people haven't watched it yet.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
October 20 2012 09:38 GMT
#5403
Not nearly as good as the Season 2 finals. Most of these games we're Life being too stubborn to make Roaches and losing Drones and Lings to Hellions.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
DMZ
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada51 Posts
October 20 2012 09:38 GMT
#5404
.. and now my liquibet is all mucked up by this. . . =_='

Good win by Life though.
“May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't.”- George S. Patton
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 20 2012 09:39 GMT
#5405
On October 20 2012 18:38 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 18:37 FakeDeath wrote:
You know when a player win GSL Code S as a first Royal Roader.
He is successful as a 15 year old.
Slaying the the terran people who were claiming is a bonjwa MVP.

He is on to great things.

the way jjakji and leenock were onto great things right?


hey man leenock is really successful ;o
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
October 20 2012 09:39 GMT
#5406
On October 20 2012 18:37 Zebb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 18:34 lichter wrote:
On October 20 2012 18:33 Fionn wrote:
On October 20 2012 18:31 Mattumsfox wrote:
Polt will win the next GSL.
Someone quote this in a couple months.


I already called Bogus vs. Polt GSL Finals at the start of Code A. It's gonna happen.

Also it was a very good finals. Not top 3, but probably 4th.

1. Squirtle/Mvp, Leenock/jjakji, MMA/DRG in whatever order
4. Life/Mvp
5. Nestea/MKP


Not really a lot of choices for #4 best finals man, easy call


Squirtle/MVP #1 for sure

imho

Ya I have to agree. Game 6 where in theory should have won with BC-Ghost but loses to a freaking vortex! How often do you see a vortex v terran?! And then that epic game 7 ultra cheese. It was great.
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
October 20 2012 09:39 GMT
#5407
On October 20 2012 18:38 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 18:37 FakeDeath wrote:
You know when a player win GSL Code S as a first Royal Roader.
He is successful as a 15 year old.
Slaying the the terran people who were claiming is a bonjwa MVP.

He is on to great things.

the way jjakji and leenock were onto great things right?


Are you honestly suggesting Leenock is bad?
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
October 20 2012 09:40 GMT
#5408
Its interesting how well it worked for Life to play ling/infestor against mech. Its it doesnt matter if you play bio or mech, while for the terran they are so different playstyles. It looks so bad when Life is throwing away 20-30 lings at a time againt blue flame hellions but his injects are so good that zerg macro allows for that. I must say I like the aggressive style of Life but i wish he would show some more respect to Mvp now that he beat him. Im thinking about Lifes comments in interviews.
goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1218 Posts
October 20 2012 09:40 GMT
#5409
That was an insane last match... all those units...

It's like a real zerg swarm!
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
October 20 2012 09:40 GMT
#5410
even terran ( or mvp fans ) have to admit that the last game had nothing to do with balance, mvp played like shit, he had an advantage and he moves out with like 80% of his army which should never be done while meching and then he lost it, reinforcing as mech is at that stage of the game close to impossible and zerg can just gain the momentum to crush u (which life did). If mvp would ve played a passive game getting his 170-200 supply timings right there would be a close to zero chance (if he doesnt screw up) to lose that game

i am pissed too that mvp lost, but blaming anyone but mvp is just retarded
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babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
October 20 2012 09:40 GMT
#5411
On October 20 2012 18:37 Talack wrote:
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On October 20 2012 18:33 Havik_ wrote:
On October 20 2012 18:30 Wildmoon wrote:
the best zerg: Life
the best terran: Mvp
the best Protoss: Rain

I am just stating obvious.lol



I'm still of the opinion that Stephano is the better Zerg, but he needs to stop fucking around and play in GSL already.


Stephano does very poorly vs people who have prepared extensively for him and does well in ladder-style tournaments like MLG. In the GSL you will have an entire team of people dedicated to figuring out how to abuse your style (which stephano is rooted in 100%, he is a stylist player) and how to counter it most effectively. Honestly I would not expect stephano to do well at all in the GSL, he`s simply not the kind of player who will excel in those circumstances.

That being said, if all zergs would plan out their attacks like stephano does then i doubt we`d ever see a less than 90% zerg win rate in tournaments.

Not that I'm saying Stephano is better, but we basically just watched a finals between Mvp (the guy who is best at planning out long series) vs. Life (the guy who doesn't seem to prepare much in terms of "style").
DrakeFZX3
Profile Joined October 2010
United States925 Posts
October 20 2012 09:41 GMT
#5412
On October 20 2012 18:38 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 18:37 FakeDeath wrote:
You know when a player win GSL Code S as a first Royal Roader.
He is successful as a 15 year old.
Slaying the the terran people who were claiming is a bonjwa MVP.

He is on to great things.

the way jjakji and leenock were onto great things right?


But those two players are none of the things Life is.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
October 20 2012 09:41 GMT
#5413
Fun fact btw this makes MVP the second player since marineking to lose in multiple finals.
Glorious SEA doto
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
October 20 2012 09:41 GMT
#5414
On October 20 2012 18:39 Mackus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 18:38 Sub40APM wrote:
On October 20 2012 18:37 FakeDeath wrote:
You know when a player win GSL Code S as a first Royal Roader.
He is successful as a 15 year old.
Slaying the the terran people who were claiming is a bonjwa MVP.

He is on to great things.

the way jjakji and leenock were onto great things right?


Are you honestly suggesting Leenock is bad?

No. But the idea that a young kid wins a GSL --> next X bonjwa is laughable. Life had a great run. And he showed mental toughness by not falling apart in game 6. But lets be honest folks: MVP got greedy in game 6 and lost for it. And MVP got impatient in game 7 and traded an entire mech army for an unused hatch. Life made dumb decisions too, but his dumb decisions in game 7 were a lot less costly than MVPs.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
October 20 2012 09:41 GMT
#5415
On October 20 2012 18:37 Awesomeness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 18:34 HaXXspetten wrote:
On October 20 2012 18:33 Havik_ wrote:
On October 20 2012 18:30 Wildmoon wrote:
the best zerg: Life
the best terran: Mvp
the best Protoss: Rain

I am just stating obvious.lol



I'm still of the opinion that Stephano is the better Zerg, but he needs to stop fucking around and play in GSL already.

As much as I am for the whole thing that Stephano is without a doubt Code S caliber.... just no


How is Life better because he won one tournament, while Stephano has been consistently producing results for a year? The GSL bias is kinda ridiculous sometimes.


haha. Can you be a sc2 fan and not be GSL "biased". You cant compare anything stephano has won to a GSL trophy.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
October 20 2012 09:41 GMT
#5416
On October 20 2012 18:37 Talack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 18:33 Havik_ wrote:
On October 20 2012 18:30 Wildmoon wrote:
the best zerg: Life
the best terran: Mvp
the best Protoss: Rain

I am just stating obvious.lol



I'm still of the opinion that Stephano is the better Zerg, but he needs to stop fucking around and play in GSL already.


Stephano does very poorly vs people who have prepared extensively for him and does well in ladder-style tournaments like MLG. In the GSL you will have an entire team of people dedicated to figuring out how to abuse your style (which stephano is rooted in 100%, he is a stylist player) and how to counter it most effectively. Honestly I would not expect stephano to do well at all in the GSL, he`s simply not the kind of player who will excel in those circumstances.

That being said, if all zergs would plan out their attacks like stephano does then i doubt we`d ever see a less than 90% zerg win rate in tournaments.



That's the thing though. Haven't people been studying Stephano for over a year now? And they still can't stop him? I think he's best Zerg. I can't call Life the best Zerg yet. He won tonight and got 2nd in TSL4, but other than that, he doesn't have many results. Yeah he's always been good, but doesn't have too many results.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 20 2012 09:41 GMT
#5417
On October 20 2012 18:39 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 18:37 Zebb wrote:
On October 20 2012 18:34 lichter wrote:
On October 20 2012 18:33 Fionn wrote:
On October 20 2012 18:31 Mattumsfox wrote:
Polt will win the next GSL.
Someone quote this in a couple months.


I already called Bogus vs. Polt GSL Finals at the start of Code A. It's gonna happen.

Also it was a very good finals. Not top 3, but probably 4th.

1. Squirtle/Mvp, Leenock/jjakji, MMA/DRG in whatever order
4. Life/Mvp
5. Nestea/MKP


Not really a lot of choices for #4 best finals man, easy call


Squirtle/MVP #1 for sure

imho

Ya I have to agree. Game 6 where in theory should have won with BC-Ghost but loses to a freaking vortex! How often do you see a vortex v terran?! And then that epic game 7 ultra cheese. It was great.


Heh, you don't see vortex v terran because few terrans and fewer maps allow you to get mass BCs...
Goshdarnit
Profile Joined August 2011
United States540 Posts
October 20 2012 09:41 GMT
#5418
On October 20 2012 18:38 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 18:37 FakeDeath wrote:
You know when a player win GSL Code S as a first Royal Roader.
He is successful as a 15 year old.
Slaying the the terran people who were claiming is a bonjwa MVP.

He is on to great things.

the way jjakji and leenock were onto great things right?


Leenock never won, he was never a royal roader. Also he is still definitely top 5 zerg in the world. No one ever thought that Jjakji was on to bigger and better things.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
October 20 2012 09:41 GMT
#5419
On October 20 2012 18:40 Fjodorov wrote:
Its interesting how well it worked for Life to play ling/infestor against mech. Its it doesnt matter if you play bio or mech, while for the terran they are so different playstyles. It looks so bad when Life is throwing away 20-30 lings at a time againt blue flame hellions but his injects are so good that zerg macro allows for that. I must say I like the aggressive style of Life but i wish he would show some more respect to Mvp now that he beat him. Im thinking about Lifes comments in interviews.


If Life pulls that arrogant shit in his winner's interview I'm going to be very disappointed
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DrakeFZX3
Profile Joined October 2010
United States925 Posts
October 20 2012 09:42 GMT
#5420
On October 20 2012 18:41 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 18:39 Mackus wrote:
On October 20 2012 18:38 Sub40APM wrote:
On October 20 2012 18:37 FakeDeath wrote:
You know when a player win GSL Code S as a first Royal Roader.
He is successful as a 15 year old.
Slaying the the terran people who were claiming is a bonjwa MVP.

He is on to great things.

the way jjakji and leenock were onto great things right?


Are you honestly suggesting Leenock is bad?

No. But the idea that a young kid wins a GSL --> next X bonjwa is laughable. Life had a great run. And he showed mental toughness by not falling apart in game 6. But lets be honest folks: MVP got greedy in game 6 and lost for it. And MVP got impatient in game 7 and traded an entire mech army for an unused hatch. Life made dumb decisions too, but his dumb decisions in game 7 were a lot less costly than MVPs.


No one is saying he's the next bonjwa. He's still young and he's got a bright future ahead of him.

How come you didn't mention the other champions who did go on to do great things?
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