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Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
October 17 2012 01:19 GMT
#241
On October 17 2012 10:18 CeriseCherries wrote:
so if thorzain loses, then pewma is still there, i give tzain + puma a chance to beat drg

DRG losing to Puma and Thorzain? ...
¯\_(シ)_/¯
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
October 17 2012 01:19 GMT
#242
On October 17 2012 10:18 CeriseCherries wrote:
so if thorzain loses, then pewma is still there, i give tzain + puma a chance to beat drg


Pewma just went and lost to Monster.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
October 17 2012 01:19 GMT
#243
Metropolis? RIP Thorzain.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
October 17 2012 01:20 GMT
#244
Metropolis means DRG wins if he manages to dodge Seeker Missiles.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
October 17 2012 01:20 GMT
#245
whos gonna be ace? cant be huk right?
Maruprime.
Vega62a
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
946 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 01:21:03
October 17 2012 01:20 GMT
#246
On October 17 2012 10:18 CeriseCherries wrote:
so if thorzain loses, then pewma is still there, i give tzain + puma a chance to beat drg


Puma is already down. Also, it's not like you can add them up.

I wonder who's ace. I feel like Idra might wind up coming out, his ZvZ is beastly of late.
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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
October 17 2012 01:21 GMT
#247
On October 17 2012 10:13 PhoenixVoid wrote:
This is such a scrappy game. It goes back and forth constantly. If only Monster had made BLs earlier.


His build was completely aimed towards overpowering mech in midgame, he can't just switch to a lategame focused build at will.

Thorzain's early hellions decided that game imo. This switching back and forth between roaches and mutas vs mech is an old and strong way of dealing with mech, but it's very momentum-based. If you ever let the T stabilise, you're stuck with mediocre upgrades and bad tech vs a maxed mech army. You don't really have the time to get your drone count back up, then continue with the attack and you don't have the larvae for it either.

I missed early game, but it seems odd Monster would continue with 2/2 ling upgrades while going roach muta. Lings help out a lot, but they're not the main component of that style.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 01:23:20
October 17 2012 01:21 GMT
#248
On October 17 2012 10:20 Corrosive wrote:
whos gonna be ace? cant be huk right?


Why not?

If not, then it'll probably be Idra. That'll be interesting.

Or Incontrol will take it with his token cannon rush into mass void ray.

Or Demuslim, who has a habit of beating top Koreans and losing to randoms. Or Machine, who is Machine. Or LzGamer, who I'm not even sure is registered for IPL.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
October 17 2012 01:22 GMT
#249
On October 17 2012 10:18 Flonomenalz wrote:
Oh yeah, MVP still has DRG.

Lol well GG EG. Thorzain better pull out his best cheese, because no way he beats DRG in a macro game.


You just got your wish.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada2382 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 01:24:24
October 17 2012 01:23 GMT
#250
thorZain donk build no trouble drg
e ;wut ?
Progamer一条咸鱼
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
October 17 2012 01:24 GMT
#251
DRG on metropolis, poor poor thorzain
Vega62a
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
946 Posts
October 17 2012 01:24 GMT
#252
What an awkward failed 2 rax.
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Vega62a
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
946 Posts
October 17 2012 01:24 GMT
#253
On October 17 2012 10:23 Scarlett` wrote:
thorZain donk build no trouble drg
e ;wut ?



This.

I think?
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Probasaur
Profile Joined August 2011
United States461 Posts
October 17 2012 01:25 GMT
#254
Love this Sonic the Hedgehog-esque music. Much more original and fun than boring ol' dubstep all the time. Not that dubstep is bad, just every single background music nowadays around esports is dubstep. So this is cool. And anything that reminds me of Sonic is all about awesome.



Love how Thorzain and Stephano, EG's top two foreigner hopes, are the ones owning all the koreans. JYP and Puma are deadweight. I never see them win anything anymore even in team leagues.... Puma wins every now and again, but when is the last time JYP won? Even in MCSL I see them losing to really good foreigners, not top tier foreigners tho.

I hope teams take this as precedent and realize that... Korean doesn't always equate to better. Especially when they're players who win quite a bit for a short period of time like JYP. I just hope they aren't paying out the ass for JYP and Puma.... because frankly they don't bring in much hype compared to the other EG heavy hitters.
"He who makes a beast of himself.... gets rid of the pain of being a man" -Hunter S Thompson.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
October 17 2012 01:25 GMT
#255
On October 17 2012 10:24 Vega62a wrote:
What an awkward failed 2 rax.

It was worthwhile enough
¯\_(シ)_/¯
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
October 17 2012 01:26 GMT
#256
On October 17 2012 10:24 Vega62a wrote:
What an awkward failed 2 rax.


Did a decent amount of economic damage despite killing barely anything. Forced Lings instead of Drones.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Vega62a
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
946 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 01:27:18
October 17 2012 01:26 GMT
#257
On October 17 2012 10:25 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 10:24 Vega62a wrote:
What an awkward failed 2 rax.

It was worthwhile enough


Remains to be seen. He did no damage, and the "soft damage" of the 5 whole drones that weren't made isn't enough to offset the absurdly late expo and tech. In addition, Thorzain now has no map control, so DRG can drone to his heart's content if he wants.
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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
October 17 2012 01:26 GMT
#258
On October 17 2012 10:25 Probasaur wrote:
Love this Sonic the Hedgehog-esque music. Much more original and fun than boring ol' dubstep all the time. Not that dubstep is bad, just every single background music nowadays around esports is dubstep. So this is cool. And anything that reminds me of Sonic is all about awesome.



Love how Thorzain and Stephano, EG's top two foreigner hopes, are the ones owning all the koreans. JYP and Puma are deadweight. I never see them win anything anymore even in team leagues.... Puma wins every now and again, but when is the last time JYP won? Even in MCSL I see them losing to really good foreigners, not top tier foreigners tho.

I hope teams take this as precedent and realize that... Korean doesn't always equate to better. Especially when they're players who win quite a bit for a short period of time like JYP. I just hope they aren't paying out the ass for JYP and Puma.... because frankly they don't bring in much hype compared to the other EG heavy hitters.


JYP did pretty well in Code S. If you consider getting Ro16 good, but in this Code S that's like winning an EU tournament.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 01:27:16
October 17 2012 01:27 GMT
#259
On October 17 2012 10:26 Vega62a wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 10:25 Whatson wrote:
On October 17 2012 10:24 Vega62a wrote:
What an awkward failed 2 rax.

It was worthwhile enough


Remains to be seen. He did no damage, and the "soft damage" of the 5 whole drones that weren't made isn't enough to offset the absurdly late expo and tech.

lol any time you force 10 lings and don't actually lose anything, I count that as a win.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada2382 Posts
October 17 2012 01:27 GMT
#260
@__@????
Progamer一条咸鱼
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