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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
November 12 2012 13:05 GMT
#11181
Just for fun and the people who think that there is something wrong with Bomber "losing 4:4" to Stephano - did you notice that Bomber also "won 2:2" over viOlet? And the fact that other similar situations did not happen is just one large coincidence?
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 14:04:59
November 12 2012 14:04 GMT
#11182
On November 12 2012 22:05 opisska wrote:
Just for fun and the people who think that there is something wrong with Bomber "losing 4:4" to Stephano - did you notice that Bomber also "won 2:2" over viOlet? And the fact that other similar situations did not happen is just one large coincidence?


You make a good point.

Anyway the whining is stupid. Stephano was the pre-tournament favourite, him beating Bomber in a tournament again is hardly a surprise. And the series was very close at 4-4, so hardly suggestive of imbalance. Bomber raised his game and made the Finals very tight.

Stephano lost to a Terran, Lucifron in the Final of the Stim to the Win tournament on Friday. So win some, lose some.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
November 12 2012 15:46 GMT
#11183
On November 12 2012 22:03 Redox wrote:
Really nice tournament.

A shame that sc2 LR threads are absolutely unbearable these days. I just took a small peak and that was already too much.


LR is alright, you just have to bail out in the right time. Here we have 500+ pages of fun (excluding the manner/bm moves discussion and timezones) and then the zerg won aftermath. That's not bad.

Went to bed trying to sleep to the sound of the monday morning work traffic. Sick life.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
PrimeTimey
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada369 Posts
November 12 2012 15:55 GMT
#11184
Stephano is now the fourth player to win over $200,000 from Starcraft 2 tournaments!

http://sc2earnings.com/player/245/ilyes-satouri
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
November 12 2012 15:57 GMT
#11185
On November 13 2012 00:46 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 22:03 Redox wrote:
Really nice tournament.

A shame that sc2 LR threads are absolutely unbearable these days. I just took a small peak and that was already too much.


LR is alright, you just have to bail out in the right time. Here we have 500+ pages of fun (excluding the manner/bm moves discussion and timezones) and then the zerg won aftermath. That's not bad.

Went to bed trying to sleep to the sound of the monday morning work traffic. Sick life.


Bitch please, I went to uni like a boss + Show Spoiler +
and went to the library at 10 in order to sleep
Terran & Potato Salad.
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9699 Posts
November 12 2012 16:43 GMT
#11186
On November 13 2012 00:57 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 00:46 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On November 12 2012 22:03 Redox wrote:
Really nice tournament.

A shame that sc2 LR threads are absolutely unbearable these days. I just took a small peak and that was already too much.


LR is alright, you just have to bail out in the right time. Here we have 500+ pages of fun (excluding the manner/bm moves discussion and timezones) and then the zerg won aftermath. That's not bad.

Went to bed trying to sleep to the sound of the monday morning work traffic. Sick life.


Bitch please, I went to uni like a boss + Show Spoiler +
and went to the library at 10 in order to sleep


Screw you guys i just got back from work
RIP Meatloaf <3
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
November 12 2012 16:52 GMT
#11187
On November 13 2012 00:55 PrimeTimey wrote:
Stephano is now the fourth player to win over $200,000 from Starcraft 2 tournaments!

http://sc2earnings.com/player/245/ilyes-satouri


Amazing! Even more so considering the other three, MC, Nestea and MVP have been SC2 pro-gamers for a year longer.

Interesting to note that Stephano has won ~ $41,000 since joining EG 2 and a half months ago! So much for a curse. Factor in that Stephano was unable to attend DH Bucharest or GD Studio Invitational last month due to his ban and his prize money accrual is impressively relentless.

To put some context, Idra has won ~ $53,000 since joining EG more than 2 years ago.
Ziggitz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States340 Posts
November 12 2012 17:08 GMT
#11188
Terrans have fucking lost it. In the one ZvT series characterized by Stephano's sparing use of Infestors and Broodlords, we see one of the biggest shitstorms over broodlords and infestors.
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
November 12 2012 17:28 GMT
#11189
On November 13 2012 01:43 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 00:57 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On November 13 2012 00:46 AlternativeEgo wrote:
On November 12 2012 22:03 Redox wrote:
Really nice tournament.

A shame that sc2 LR threads are absolutely unbearable these days. I just took a small peak and that was already too much.


LR is alright, you just have to bail out in the right time. Here we have 500+ pages of fun (excluding the manner/bm moves discussion and timezones) and then the zerg won aftermath. That's not bad.

Went to bed trying to sleep to the sound of the monday morning work traffic. Sick life.


Bitch please, I went to uni like a boss + Show Spoiler +
and went to the library at 10 in order to sleep


Screw you guys i just got back from work


I went to bed at 7:20 am and woke up around 13:00. No classes mondays are great! And to be honest this LR thread was much better than some other ones (*cough* MLG *cough*)
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
November 12 2012 17:31 GMT
#11190
Grats to stephano and bomber. I didnt see the games but im sure they were good. Regarding finals in a double bracket tournament, ive never managed to understand why the finals cant be played from scratch, 0 - 0. If you advance to the finals through the winners bracket then you have played fewer matches and you have avoided the stress of every match being an elimination match in the losers. Once 2 players are in the final they should be played from 0.
peiopeio
Profile Joined August 2011
France20 Posts
November 12 2012 17:39 GMT
#11191
So one player is allowed to lose once, and the other isn't. Basically you get punished because you did better. How retarded is that.
Extenz
Profile Joined October 2011
Italy822 Posts
November 12 2012 17:44 GMT
#11192
On November 13 2012 02:39 peiopeio wrote:
So one player is allowed to lose once, and the other isn't. Basically you get punished because you did better. How retarded is that.


wtf are you saying? the player from the winner bracket never lost and the one from the loser bracket lost once and had a second chance so it just makes sense.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 17:45:27
November 12 2012 17:44 GMT
#11193
nvm, responded to a post that i dont understand.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8304 Posts
November 12 2012 17:47 GMT
#11194
On November 13 2012 00:55 PrimeTimey wrote:
Stephano is now the fourth player to win over $200,000 from Starcraft 2 tournaments!

http://sc2earnings.com/player/245/ilyes-satouri


Wow, that's actually pretty amazing. Love that it goes the big three and then Stephano. He's in range to take down Nestea if he does very well at WCS Finals too... Exciting stuff.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Fandango
Profile Joined October 2011
291 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-12 18:30:54
November 12 2012 18:30 GMT
#11195
On November 13 2012 02:44 Extenz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 02:39 peiopeio wrote:
So one player is allowed to lose once, and the other isn't. Basically you get punished because you did better. How retarded is that.


wtf are you saying? the player from the winner bracket never lost and the one from the loser bracket lost once and had a second chance so it just makes sense.


You realise when the bracket gets reset that's the guy from the winner bracket getting the same second chance the guy from the loser's bracket got right?

I'm genuinely not sure if you're disagreeing with him or agreeing with him for realsies.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
November 12 2012 20:40 GMT
#11196
On November 12 2012 15:19 FlyingTurtle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2012 15:13 FabledIntegral wrote:
On November 12 2012 14:40 FlyingTurtle wrote:
If you're whining about balance, refute me or GTFO. Here's the crux: so Fungal is OP? A "skill-less" skill? What about lurkers in BW? Move your marines into a few of them, get shredded...and the Zerg didn't even have to click "F". Lockdown prevents micro? DEFINITELY OP. Plague = guaranteed damage? OP. You might as well say that the entire game of SC BW was just whoever could get the most OP units on the field. There's something called MICRO, idiots. Bomber clumped his marines and lost the game, simple as that.


Lurkers in BW took an insane amount of skill to use. Clearly you didn't play Zerg. They were fucking insane to use. I can't even tell if you're just spouting nonsense for the sake of spouting nonsense. The entire premise of attacking MM in BW with lurker ling was setting up a 2pronged flank (almost ALWAYS had to do a flank, extremely inefficient otherwise), surrounding the units with the lings and getting perfect burrow placement on the lurkers in different areas, since lurkers had an animation when burrowing (think the same thing as a siege tank entering siege mode). If you did it too far away, they didn't splash the marines. If they did it too close, then all the lurkers would die to stim.

Plague required 150 energy, not 75, was hive tech, and needed to be researched, often after consume. Defilers were notably slower, could not move while burrowed. Plague did not kill NOR root the enemy units.

Lockdown was not a viable spell and was almost never used.

You have fucking awful arguments.


LOL so stupid. Let me explain to you something. I didn't say Infestors are on par with Lurkers in difficulty. In fact, I believe Infestors are easier to use. But the entire thread was basically "OMG INFESTOR NO SKILL QQ". Attacking marine-tank with infestor-ling in SC2 is basically the same concept as lurker-ling in BW. You have to time your infestor movement just right; too early and the tanks will focus you, too late and the marines will have already kited your lings to death while avoiding the fungals. Yes, it's a step down from BW, but not the night-and-day difference that TLers are whining about.

Does fungal do 300 damage? No? STFU.

Lockdown not viable? Go watch some of Boxer's lockdown vs Carriers. STFU.

You're an idiot. Please delete your account.

User was temp banned for this post.


1. No, it's not the same concept whatsoever as lurkerling in BW. There is really no "just right" timing whatsoever. It's not even remotely comparable. Did you even play BW?

2. Doesn't matter if it did 300 damage over time. Most units it affected didn't even have 300 life so it wasn't even relevant. To add on, I forgot to mention the fact it didn't even affect shields, so if you used it on something like an Archon I believe it did 7 damage total. Units could actually retreat after being plagued (for example, Science Vessels), and repaired or simply continually used. Plague was strong, no where near fungal.

3. Boxer lost the majority of games he attempted to use lockdown vs Carriers. You see all those "pimpest play" moments where he utilizes lockdown? Yeah, they were badass. He still lost those games.

You have zero valid points, hopefully you will read over this even though you're banned.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25771 Posts
November 12 2012 21:01 GMT
#11197
On November 13 2012 01:52 revel8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 00:55 PrimeTimey wrote:
Stephano is now the fourth player to win over $200,000 from Starcraft 2 tournaments!

http://sc2earnings.com/player/245/ilyes-satouri


Amazing! Even more so considering the other three, MC, Nestea and MVP have been SC2 pro-gamers for a year longer.

Interesting to note that Stephano has won ~ $41,000 since joining EG 2 and a half months ago! So much for a curse. Factor in that Stephano was unable to attend DH Bucharest or GD Studio Invitational last month due to his ban and his prize money accrual is impressively relentless.

To put some context, Idra has won ~ $53,000 since joining EG more than 2 years ago.

Shows the plus side to cherry-picking certain tournaments, plus his pretty high skill level of course. Just seems wrong to have him above MVP!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
November 13 2012 03:23 GMT
#11198
Rachel interviewed Stephano after he won LSC2. Vid courtesy of Cyber Sports Network.

Natalya
Profile Joined December 2011
Belgium287 Posts
November 13 2012 04:14 GMT
#11199

On November 13 2012 01:52 revel8 wrote:
Amazing! Even more so considering the other three, MC, Nestea and MVP have been SC2 pro-gamers for a year longer.



Actually Stephano has been playing sc2 professionally since its very begining, he was just not doing very well I've watched him play tourneys in France like 6 month after the release.
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
November 13 2012 04:50 GMT
#11200
On November 13 2012 13:14 Natalya wrote:

Show nested quote +
On November 13 2012 01:52 revel8 wrote:
Amazing! Even more so considering the other three, MC, Nestea and MVP have been SC2 pro-gamers for a year longer.



Actually Stephano has been playing sc2 professionally since its very begining, he was just not doing very well I've watched him play tourneys in France like 6 month after the release.


He wasn't full time until September 2011. He was in High School up to then. There is a thread on TL about it. Remember the Complexity contract issue? He signed an employment contract with Mill in late Sept 2011. MC, Nestea and MVP were playing in the GSL in Sept 2010 - a full year earlier. Stephano won about $5000 before going full-time.
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