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Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19141 Posts
October 07 2012 17:46 GMT
#341
This is the point where the balance discussion gets left out of this thread.
ModeratorFor remember, that in the end, some are born to live, others born to die. I belong to those last, born to burn, born to cry. For I shall remain alone... forsaken.
Supter
Profile Joined February 2011
France382 Posts
October 07 2012 17:47 GMT
#342
On October 08 2012 02:44 Doubting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 02:09 Supter wrote:
Tbh, as a Terran player :

ZvP really is boring.
ZvP is in an horrible state. Not talking about Naniwa who were never good in this match up (he was a beast in PvP and PvT), but i have the horrible impression that Protoss got nothing to counter Zerg's ultras.

It's either a passive game the protoss will end up losing or a two bases all-in which is boring to watch.

Man, seriously. F*ck this match up.

Lol at Protoss has nothing to counter Ultras.

Try every unit


Or you can read what i read after and understand that i meant Broodlords.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
October 07 2012 17:47 GMT
#343
On October 08 2012 02:39 Sated wrote:
Meh, expected. ZvP is too easy for Zerg players and NaNiwa is bad at it in the first place. Nothing to learn from this.


Yes let's not give credit to Nerchio shall we
Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
October 07 2012 17:47 GMT
#344
On October 08 2012 02:42 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 02:40 NovemberstOrm wrote:
zvp isn't easy lol especially not at a level like nerchio's. good games by nerchio!

Work out Protoss is doing a 2 Base all-in, defend with ease because Roaches.
Work out Protoss isn't doing a 2 Base all-in, win with ease because Brood Lords.

Seems easy to me.

you are an idiot. Defending 2 base all ins is ridiculously hard if the Protoss knows how to force field. Also getting Broods is very hard with all the pre hive timings that destroy Zerg unless you build 3 millions spine crawlers and defend like a boss. Then once you get Broods 1 lucky vortex can lose you the game.

Playing against Protoss is like trying to throw a paper bag across a room.
Life: The New Champion!!
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
October 07 2012 17:48 GMT
#345
poor bitter!
AthOms
Profile Joined October 2011
France18 Posts
October 07 2012 17:48 GMT
#346
The funny part is that we didn't see a single roach in this serie
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
October 07 2012 17:49 GMT
#347
Better topic than balance whine: HomeStory Cup VI - December 19th - 22nd 2012
Doubting
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada981 Posts
October 07 2012 17:49 GMT
#348
On October 08 2012 02:47 Supter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 02:44 Doubting wrote:
On October 08 2012 02:09 Supter wrote:
Tbh, as a Terran player :

ZvP really is boring.
ZvP is in an horrible state. Not talking about Naniwa who were never good in this match up (he was a beast in PvP and PvT), but i have the horrible impression that Protoss got nothing to counter Zerg's ultras.

It's either a passive game the protoss will end up losing or a two bases all-in which is boring to watch.

Man, seriously. F*ck this match up.

Lol at Protoss has nothing to counter Ultras.

Try every unit


Or you can read what i read after and understand that i meant Broodlords.

ok then Mommaship, Archons, Stalkers, Voids and Carriers. Your choice.
Life: The New Champion!!
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23580 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-07 17:51:22
October 07 2012 17:50 GMT
#349
Maybe Dennis should try to get HSC VI done one week earlier, I think many will be busy right before christmas!

Edit: Sick german skills by Kevin by the way . Germany misses you too guys!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
October 07 2012 17:50 GMT
#350
--- Nuked ---
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
October 07 2012 17:50 GMT
#351
People start talking about balance after watching this? Are you serious?. Nerchio could properly win over Naniwa just by making lings
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Domus
Profile Joined March 2011
510 Posts
October 07 2012 17:51 GMT
#352
Naniwa just does not know how to play vs zerg, it was just a bit sad to watch (and I like Naniwa, but this is no good). Anyway, you need a lot of archon vs zerg broodlord, and you need to stay on equal bases. Neither 3 base or stalker blink unders are enough anymore.
Supter
Profile Joined February 2011
France382 Posts
October 07 2012 17:53 GMT
#353
On October 08 2012 02:49 Doubting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 02:47 Supter wrote:
On October 08 2012 02:44 Doubting wrote:
On October 08 2012 02:09 Supter wrote:
Tbh, as a Terran player :

ZvP really is boring.
ZvP is in an horrible state. Not talking about Naniwa who were never good in this match up (he was a beast in PvP and PvT), but i have the horrible impression that Protoss got nothing to counter Zerg's ultras.

It's either a passive game the protoss will end up losing or a two bases all-in which is boring to watch.

Man, seriously. F*ck this match up.

Lol at Protoss has nothing to counter Ultras.

Try every unit


Or you can read what i read after and understand that i meant Broodlords.

ok then Mommaship, Archons, Stalkers, Voids and Carriers. Your choice.


Mothership / Archon : Sure, it is good to call "counter" a unit which is only a counter if your opponent make a mistakes. In the last game, you saw Nerchio built some banelings so he didn't even have to split his broodlords.
Stalkers : Lol. No. That's the only decent thing they have, but it's not a counter. Not at all.
Carriers : I thought we all agreed that this unit was not worth mentionning EVER. The last time i saw it was in a Seed game. The time before ? One year ago.
Void rays : What do you need to make Broodlords ? Corruptor. You know, that unit you have to make against Colossus and Motherships.


I'm not even a protoss player, i'm a terran players, and at least, we have some good options against zergs. Protoss have none.
absalom86
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland1770 Posts
October 07 2012 17:54 GMT
#354
I guess EG dodged a bullet by not recruiting naniwa.

That said, hope Nani can pull it back together and get some motivation coming. Maybe hots will help, god knows pvz is hard.
Thief @ #teamliquid @ Quakenet
jnd
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Czech Republic915 Posts
October 07 2012 17:54 GMT
#355
On October 08 2012 02:50 Musicus wrote:
Maybe Dennis should try to get HSC VI done one week earlier, I think many will be busy right before christmas!

Edit: Sick german skills by Kevin by the way . Germany misses you too guys!

One week earlier I would be at work and miss most of the games, however as it is now I'll have holiday so I can watch everything, it's great.
Team 8 BaBy will be the next Terran Bonjwa in HoTS | HSC V, the best tournament in 2012 | GD Studio #1 no fluff esports show
Kazil
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany566 Posts
October 07 2012 17:56 GMT
#356
On October 08 2012 02:53 Supter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2012 02:49 Doubting wrote:
On October 08 2012 02:47 Supter wrote:
On October 08 2012 02:44 Doubting wrote:
On October 08 2012 02:09 Supter wrote:
Tbh, as a Terran player :

ZvP really is boring.
ZvP is in an horrible state. Not talking about Naniwa who were never good in this match up (he was a beast in PvP and PvT), but i have the horrible impression that Protoss got nothing to counter Zerg's ultras.

It's either a passive game the protoss will end up losing or a two bases all-in which is boring to watch.

Man, seriously. F*ck this match up.

Lol at Protoss has nothing to counter Ultras.

Try every unit


Or you can read what i read after and understand that i meant Broodlords.

ok then Mommaship, Archons, Stalkers, Voids and Carriers. Your choice.


Mothership / Archon : Sure, it is good to call "counter" a unit which is only a counter if your opponent make a mistakes. In the last game, you saw Nerchio built some banelings so he didn't even have to split his broodlords.
Stalkers : Lol. No. That's the only decent thing they have, but it's not a counter. Not at all.
Carriers : I thought we all agreed that this unit was not worth mentionning EVER. The last time i saw it was in a Seed game. The time before ? One year ago.
Void rays : What do you need to make Broodlords ? Corruptor. You know, that unit you have to make against Colossus and Motherships.


I'm not even a protoss player, i'm a terran players, and at least, we have some good options against zergs. Protoss have none.


Yepp... thats the reason why zerg win every game.

@Carriers: Perhps start playing and watching SC2 again? I see carriers in almost every ZvP lategame.
@ Void Rays: And what is the counter-unit to corrupters?

Maybe just stop talking about balance if you have no information about the current metagame.
"SCVs build faster if you queue them up." - Goody (to ClouD at HSC4)
Ksquared
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1748 Posts
October 07 2012 17:58 GMT
#357
Nani's PvZ is still really bad it seems
eSports for life.
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-07 18:01:49
October 07 2012 18:01 GMT
#358
i cant believe no one speaks about homestory cup... insane announcement! the dates are a bit weird just before christmas....

wednesday to saturday.. i have exams on wednesday and thursday, im gonna travel on friday home (actually bought flights today) and on saturday i go on vacation... im gonna miss everything TT
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-07 18:05:08
October 07 2012 18:03 GMT
#359
You know, I think Nerchio and Stephano are better than Korean Zergs. I think too many Korean Zergs are too aggressive during late lair tech or while morphing their hive.
marmuc
Profile Joined August 2011
110 Posts
October 07 2012 18:07 GMT
#360
On October 08 2012 03:03 -_- wrote:
You know, I think Nerchio and Stephano are better than Korean Zergs. I think too many Korean Zergs are too aggressive during late lair tech or while morphing their hive.


right? korean zergs are nothing special, they don't do well in tournaments, meanwhile nerchio and stephano are freaking monsters and owning everything left and right.
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