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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 29 2012 02:46 GMT
#61
On August 29 2012 11:44 ElephantBaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 11:33 Dodgin wrote:
Best is the best, it's even in his ID come on guys.


Just like MVP, great ID and lived up to it.


Poor Byun...

I also heard Slayers Drughead was cut from the B-team...for undisclosed reasons :\
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
August 29 2012 02:54 GMT
#62
On August 29 2012 11:45 power-overwhelming wrote:
No upsets here. MKP will simply outplay Rain in his best MU, OZ will play his best MU and MVP will play his best MU. MC will just 4 gate/timing attack and destroy best. Sorry but elephants are going to get slaughtered today

tvp is MVPs worst matchup and pvt is Oz's worst matchup.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
August 29 2012 02:57 GMT
#63
I really don't like BO1 in SC2. It felt acceptable in BW, but the sequel just feels much more volatile to me.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 29 2012 02:57 GMT
#64
On August 29 2012 11:54 Maghetti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 11:45 power-overwhelming wrote:
No upsets here. MKP will simply outplay Rain in his best MU, OZ will play his best MU and MVP will play his best MU. MC will just 4 gate/timing attack and destroy best. Sorry but elephants are going to get slaughtered today

tvp is MVPs worst matchup and pvt is Oz's worst matchup.

really? oz's pvp... not his worst? haha
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Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 03:05:35
August 29 2012 03:00 GMT
#65
On August 29 2012 11:57 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 11:54 Maghetti wrote:
On August 29 2012 11:45 power-overwhelming wrote:
No upsets here. MKP will simply outplay Rain in his best MU, OZ will play his best MU and MVP will play his best MU. MC will just 4 gate/timing attack and destroy best. Sorry but elephants are going to get slaughtered today

tvp is MVPs worst matchup and pvt is Oz's worst matchup.

really? oz's pvp... not his worst? haha

statistically it is by far his best, but considering his recent pvp results...who knows :p

I miss being awake every night during korean hours , now I have to watch everything from vods no matter how hyped I may be...
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
August 29 2012 03:14 GMT
#66
Im putting my money on Rain, Last, flying and MC. MKP and OZ just got back from Raleigh (I dont know how because of the storm) and im sure thats taking a toll on them especially because they didnt perform well by their standards. MKP also hasnt looked good since MLG anaheim? Also Im putting my money on flying because it seems to me protoss has been doing well lately, especially in korea and outside of GSL season 2 and IEM, how has MVP looked this year?? Not too good (im sure the injury factors though) but he did have time to prepare so you never know. Im hoping for MKP, Oz, MVP and MC to win though!!
#TheOneTrueDong
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
August 29 2012 03:14 GMT
#67
On August 29 2012 11:57 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 11:54 Maghetti wrote:
On August 29 2012 11:45 power-overwhelming wrote:
No upsets here. MKP will simply outplay Rain in his best MU, OZ will play his best MU and MVP will play his best MU. MC will just 4 gate/timing attack and destroy best. Sorry but elephants are going to get slaughtered today

tvp is MVPs worst matchup and pvt is Oz's worst matchup.

really? oz's pvp... not his worst? haha

I thought TvZ was MVPs worst mu, or am i thinking of the wrong terran?
#TheOneTrueDong
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 03:23:46
August 29 2012 03:21 GMT
#68
On August 29 2012 12:14 TommyP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 11:57 opterown wrote:
On August 29 2012 11:54 Maghetti wrote:
On August 29 2012 11:45 power-overwhelming wrote:
No upsets here. MKP will simply outplay Rain in his best MU, OZ will play his best MU and MVP will play his best MU. MC will just 4 gate/timing attack and destroy best. Sorry but elephants are going to get slaughtered today

tvp is MVPs worst matchup and pvt is Oz's worst matchup.

really? oz's pvp... not his worst? haha

I thought TvZ was MVPs worst mu, or am i thinking of the wrong terran?


Back in the day, MVP had unstoppable TvT, unstoppable TvZ, and good TvP. His TvP wasn't bad, but I guess it was his weak MU.

Nowadays, MVP is so inconsistent, it is hard to say what is his strongest MU. His relatively "weak" TvP got him his 4th GSL title, and he lost to Naama in TvT (which looking back at 2011, should not have happened).
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
August 29 2012 03:25 GMT
#69
On August 29 2012 12:21 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 12:14 TommyP wrote:
On August 29 2012 11:57 opterown wrote:
On August 29 2012 11:54 Maghetti wrote:
On August 29 2012 11:45 power-overwhelming wrote:
No upsets here. MKP will simply outplay Rain in his best MU, OZ will play his best MU and MVP will play his best MU. MC will just 4 gate/timing attack and destroy best. Sorry but elephants are going to get slaughtered today

tvp is MVPs worst matchup and pvt is Oz's worst matchup.

really? oz's pvp... not his worst? haha

I thought TvZ was MVPs worst mu, or am i thinking of the wrong terran?


Back in the day, MVP had unstoppable TvT, unstoppable TvZ, and good TvP. His TvP wasn't bad, but I guess it was his weak MU.

Nowadays, MVP is so inconsistent, it is hard to say what is his strongest MU. His relatively "weak" TvP got him his 4th GSL title, and he lost to Naama in TvT (which looking back at 2011, should not have happened).

If somebody told me in 2011 that Naama would be able to beat MVP in a TvT, i would have laughed my ass off. Now? It's actually conceivable....
¯\_(シ)_/¯
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 29 2012 03:25 GMT
#70
Aww man... Best and MC... That's a tough one for me... SKT versus MC... WHY!?

GO BY.SUN/BY.RAIN!!!!!!
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 29 2012 03:29 GMT
#71
On August 29 2012 12:25 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 12:21 Bagration wrote:
On August 29 2012 12:14 TommyP wrote:
On August 29 2012 11:57 opterown wrote:
On August 29 2012 11:54 Maghetti wrote:
On August 29 2012 11:45 power-overwhelming wrote:
No upsets here. MKP will simply outplay Rain in his best MU, OZ will play his best MU and MVP will play his best MU. MC will just 4 gate/timing attack and destroy best. Sorry but elephants are going to get slaughtered today

tvp is MVPs worst matchup and pvt is Oz's worst matchup.

really? oz's pvp... not his worst? haha

I thought TvZ was MVPs worst mu, or am i thinking of the wrong terran?


Back in the day, MVP had unstoppable TvT, unstoppable TvZ, and good TvP. His TvP wasn't bad, but I guess it was his weak MU.

Nowadays, MVP is so inconsistent, it is hard to say what is his strongest MU. His relatively "weak" TvP got him his 4th GSL title, and he lost to Naama in TvT (which looking back at 2011, should not have happened).

If somebody told me in 2011 that Naama would be able to beat MVP in a TvT, i would have laughed my ass off. Now? It's actually conceivable....


anyone can beat anyone in any matchup, what matters is who wins the most not who can never lose.
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
August 29 2012 03:37 GMT
#72
On August 29 2012 12:14 TommyP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 11:57 opterown wrote:
On August 29 2012 11:54 Maghetti wrote:
On August 29 2012 11:45 power-overwhelming wrote:
No upsets here. MKP will simply outplay Rain in his best MU, OZ will play his best MU and MVP will play his best MU. MC will just 4 gate/timing attack and destroy best. Sorry but elephants are going to get slaughtered today

tvp is MVPs worst matchup and pvt is Oz's worst matchup.

really? oz's pvp... not his worst? haha

I thought TvZ was MVPs worst mu, or am i thinking of the wrong terran?

i think it was for a short time but tvp is always been his weakest, i dont think anyone really knows what it is now.
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
August 29 2012 03:40 GMT
#73
On August 29 2012 12:29 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 12:25 Whatson wrote:
On August 29 2012 12:21 Bagration wrote:
On August 29 2012 12:14 TommyP wrote:
On August 29 2012 11:57 opterown wrote:
On August 29 2012 11:54 Maghetti wrote:
On August 29 2012 11:45 power-overwhelming wrote:
No upsets here. MKP will simply outplay Rain in his best MU, OZ will play his best MU and MVP will play his best MU. MC will just 4 gate/timing attack and destroy best. Sorry but elephants are going to get slaughtered today

tvp is MVPs worst matchup and pvt is Oz's worst matchup.

really? oz's pvp... not his worst? haha

I thought TvZ was MVPs worst mu, or am i thinking of the wrong terran?


Back in the day, MVP had unstoppable TvT, unstoppable TvZ, and good TvP. His TvP wasn't bad, but I guess it was his weak MU.

Nowadays, MVP is so inconsistent, it is hard to say what is his strongest MU. His relatively "weak" TvP got him his 4th GSL title, and he lost to Naama in TvT (which looking back at 2011, should not have happened).

If somebody told me in 2011 that Naama would be able to beat MVP in a TvT, i would have laughed my ass off. Now? It's actually conceivable....


anyone can beat anyone in any matchup, what matters is who wins the most not who can never lose.


Exactly. Skill gaps among top players are closing very fast. Preparation will be the deciding factor in future tournaments.

189984268
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada299 Posts
August 29 2012 03:40 GMT
#74
GOGO MKP!!!!!!!!!!
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 29 2012 03:58 GMT
#75
Excited to see Rain playing. :D
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 29 2012 04:05 GMT
#76
On August 29 2012 12:14 TommyP wrote:
Im putting my money on Rain, Last, flying and MC. MKP and OZ just got back from Raleigh (I dont know how because of the storm) and im sure thats taking a toll on them especially because they didnt perform well by their standards. MKP also hasnt looked good since MLG anaheim? Also Im putting my money on flying because it seems to me protoss has been doing well lately, especially in korea and outside of GSL season 2 and IEM, how has MVP looked this year?? Not too good (im sure the injury factors though) but he did have time to prepare so you never know. Im hoping for MKP, Oz, MVP and MC to win though!!


lol, what big tournaments has MVP played in? 3 GSLs, HSC (which he was really sick),IEM,MLG Winter Arena, WCS which he had to forfeit? So he has a 33% tournament win rate, which is pretty good.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 04:12:51
August 29 2012 04:09 GMT
#77
On August 29 2012 13:05 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 12:14 TommyP wrote:
Im putting my money on Rain, Last, flying and MC. MKP and OZ just got back from Raleigh (I dont know how because of the storm) and im sure thats taking a toll on them especially because they didnt perform well by their standards. MKP also hasnt looked good since MLG anaheim? Also Im putting my money on flying because it seems to me protoss has been doing well lately, especially in korea and outside of GSL season 2 and IEM, how has MVP looked this year?? Not too good (im sure the injury factors though) but he did have time to prepare so you never know. Im hoping for MKP, Oz, MVP and MC to win though!!


lol, what big tournaments has MVP played in? 3 GSLs, HSC (which he was really sick),IEM,MLG Winter Arena, WCS which he had to forfeit? So he has a 33% tournament win rate, which is pretty good.


you're only good if you have a 100% tournament win rate, come on man you should know this.

Flying can definitely win if he prepares better but I don't think he will.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
August 29 2012 04:12 GMT
#78
On August 29 2012 12:00 Maghetti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 11:57 opterown wrote:
On August 29 2012 11:54 Maghetti wrote:
On August 29 2012 11:45 power-overwhelming wrote:
No upsets here. MKP will simply outplay Rain in his best MU, OZ will play his best MU and MVP will play his best MU. MC will just 4 gate/timing attack and destroy best. Sorry but elephants are going to get slaughtered today

tvp is MVPs worst matchup and pvt is Oz's worst matchup.

really? oz's pvp... not his worst? haha

statistically it is by far his best, but considering his recent pvp results...who knows :p

I miss being awake every night during korean hours , now I have to watch everything from vods no matter how hyped I may be...


As long as he doesn't go out and say "PvP is all about skill" he should be fine
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-29 04:15:34
August 29 2012 04:15 GMT
#79
On August 29 2012 13:05 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2012 12:14 TommyP wrote:
Im putting my money on Rain, Last, flying and MC. MKP and OZ just got back from Raleigh (I dont know how because of the storm) and im sure thats taking a toll on them especially because they didnt perform well by their standards. MKP also hasnt looked good since MLG anaheim? Also Im putting my money on flying because it seems to me protoss has been doing well lately, especially in korea and outside of GSL season 2 and IEM, how has MVP looked this year?? Not too good (im sure the injury factors though) but he did have time to prepare so you never know. Im hoping for MKP, Oz, MVP and MC to win though!!


lol, what big tournaments has MVP played in? 3 GSLs, HSC (which he was really sick),IEM,MLG Winter Arena, WCS which he had to forfeit? So he has a 33% tournament win rate, which is pretty good.

Im talking about his play. It hasnt been consistent at all.
#TheOneTrueDong
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
August 29 2012 04:25 GMT
#80
I think ESF stand a pretty good chance against the elephants. Good luck MC!
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
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