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LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
August 25 2012 07:51 GMT
#881
On August 25 2012 14:30 crazystupid0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 14:26 Angelbelow wrote:
On August 25 2012 13:57 crazystupid0 wrote:
On August 25 2012 12:51 goswser wrote:
On August 25 2012 12:43 torm3ntin wrote:
On August 25 2012 12:41 goswser wrote:
Idra doing good at this event. Not that surprising if you consider that he's on EG, so therefore gets to see the WCS bracket long before anyone else. Priveleges of being on EG I guess.


seriously? that`s your theory?

lol
.
Not a theory. I'm at the event, and friends with Suppy. Him and team EG were shown the WCS bracket 2 hours before the event started, while everyone else didn't know their opponent until 10-15 minutes before it began. As for whining, Illusion and others were annoyed too.


EG players knew the WCS bracket/opponent at least day before event. Players were complaining about it the night before the tourney. according to sirscoots logic on twitter all you had to do was ask a official for your opponent.


Don't know too much about this situation or have I read goswser's comments in this thread (besides the ones quoted on this page) but if the bold part is true then I don't see any issues.




So if you know officials of a event you're allowed to get a advantage a day early over lesser known teams/players who maybe don't have the same connections to track down a official? Doesn't seem very fair.


Life's not fair, in competition, the teams with higher resources will always employ those resources to have an advantage, it's a fact of life, it's part of what makes the underdog an underdog and boosts merit of his/her win. At the same time, it'd be absurd to try to dismiss Idra's well-earned success, as preparation can only get you so far in such a short period and with so many games and different series.

That said, it's not like EG had the money to buy advanced info, or anything, it was just asking an official. That doesn't take big brand names to do, even an underdog can network and at the very least become somewhat of an acquaintance with an official to find out such information. Also, complexity and quantic aren't exactly no-names, too, as others have mentioned.
Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
August 25 2012 08:03 GMT
#882
when idra loses fans find ridiculous excuses for the reasoning of his loss and bla bla, when idra wins ppl find ridiculous excuses for the reasoning of his wins?? circle of life
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
antihobo
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada121 Posts
August 25 2012 08:19 GMT
#883
EG hacked thru the firewall and slipped a trojan in the backdoor, which obtained idra's match schedule. Then scoots bribed sundance in order to find a chair for Greg that could provide more lumbar support along with one of those foot bath massage dealies. The real scoop: Alex Garfield and the rest of eg's management sought out sponsors to provide their players with advantageous training conditions and competitive preparation!!! Idra then proceeded to play excellent starcraft against a myriad of opponents representing each race because he saw the brackets a day earlier than everybody else.
takin yer ladder points
Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 08:28:53
August 25 2012 08:26 GMT
#884
On August 25 2012 12:49 ampson wrote:
I believe that the winner of IdrA-Major will win the tournament. Both are riding on crazy momentum right now.

Scarlett is so damn good at the moment, I don't see how she can lose to anyone from NA.
Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
August 25 2012 08:59 GMT
#885
rest is all zvz and i cant see scarlett lose there ... she already destoryed vibe and losing 2 ! bo3 vs idra ? in a row ? NEVER
Nb.Drake / CoL_Drake / Original Joined TL.net Tuesday, 15th of March 2005
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
August 25 2012 09:02 GMT
#886
On August 25 2012 13:03 -_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 13:02 goswser wrote:
On August 25 2012 12:57 FairForever wrote:
On August 25 2012 12:54 CeriseCherries wrote:
On August 25 2012 12:51 goswser wrote:
On August 25 2012 12:43 torm3ntin wrote:
On August 25 2012 12:41 goswser wrote:
Idra doing good at this event. Not that surprising if you consider that he's on EG, so therefore gets to see the WCS bracket long before anyone else. Priveleges of being on EG I guess.


seriously? that`s your theory?

lol
.
Not a theory. I'm at the event, and friends with Suppy. Him and team EG were shown the WCS bracket 2 hours before the event started, while everyone else didn't know their opponent until 10-15 minutes before it began. As for whining, Illusion and others were annoyed too.


im going to go out on a limb here and say thats not the clearest description of the story, because you and idra arent exactly chums

...and if it were that they had a special EG pass to let you see a whole hour and a half early, gee thats game winning and helps to see who their first round opponent is and then what? prepare builds against the entire bracket?


lol

I'm going to agree, something tells me it's something like an EG rep asking for the bracket and seeing it, when anyone could've asked for it. Considering MLG isn't very organized (we still having issues with the open bracket?), it's more like the information is available but not easily visible. Maybe you should've asked, goswser.

Your intuition is terrible. No it was not available, and no, me asking wouldn't have told me anything. Maybe you should listen to someone who is actually at the event andn stop being an idiot. And me and idra are not chums, but that isn't the point and has nothing to do with what I am saying. Obviously it isn't game changing against Stalife, but that isn't the point. My other post was just taking a shot at idra by the way.


Apparently you're getting a lot of hate from forum posters. Honestly I have no idea why. Thanks a bunch for the information.


yeah, thanks for the info, you know if this was the other way around then everyone would be going crazy including idra
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 09:28:21
August 25 2012 09:06 GMT
#887
On August 25 2012 14:30 crazystupid0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 14:26 Angelbelow wrote:
On August 25 2012 13:57 crazystupid0 wrote:
On August 25 2012 12:51 goswser wrote:
On August 25 2012 12:43 torm3ntin wrote:
On August 25 2012 12:41 goswser wrote:
Idra doing good at this event. Not that surprising if you consider that he's on EG, so therefore gets to see the WCS bracket long before anyone else. Priveleges of being on EG I guess.


seriously? that`s your theory?

lol
.
Not a theory. I'm at the event, and friends with Suppy. Him and team EG were shown the WCS bracket 2 hours before the event started, while everyone else didn't know their opponent until 10-15 minutes before it began. As for whining, Illusion and others were annoyed too.


EG players knew the WCS bracket/opponent at least day before event. Players were complaining about it the night before the tourney. according to sirscoots logic on twitter all you had to do was ask a official for your opponent.


Don't know too much about this situation or have I read goswser's comments in this thread (besides the ones quoted on this page) but if the bold part is true then I don't see any issues.




So if you know officials of a event you're allowed to get a advantage a day early over lesser known teams/players who maybe don't have the same connections to track down a official? Doesn't seem very fair.


Not only is it fair, but it's common sense.

Resourceful team, being resourceful.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
dicex
Profile Joined November 2010
127 Posts
August 25 2012 09:14 GMT
#888
Well, if someone from EG asks early for information about the bracket, and gets it, they haven't done anything wrong. It's the tournament organizers responsibility to make shure everyone gets his information at the same time. So please stop whining about EG. Also, it doesn't really help you to know the bracket 2 hours earlier, because what are you going to do with it?
RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
August 25 2012 09:59 GMT
#889
When are the WCS games today?
walklightwhat
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia752 Posts
August 25 2012 10:17 GMT
#890
On August 25 2012 18:02 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 13:03 -_- wrote:
On August 25 2012 13:02 goswser wrote:
On August 25 2012 12:57 FairForever wrote:
On August 25 2012 12:54 CeriseCherries wrote:
On August 25 2012 12:51 goswser wrote:
On August 25 2012 12:43 torm3ntin wrote:
On August 25 2012 12:41 goswser wrote:
Idra doing good at this event. Not that surprising if you consider that he's on EG, so therefore gets to see the WCS bracket long before anyone else. Priveleges of being on EG I guess.


seriously? that`s your theory?

lol
.
Not a theory. I'm at the event, and friends with Suppy. Him and team EG were shown the WCS bracket 2 hours before the event started, while everyone else didn't know their opponent until 10-15 minutes before it began. As for whining, Illusion and others were annoyed too.


im going to go out on a limb here and say thats not the clearest description of the story, because you and idra arent exactly chums

...and if it were that they had a special EG pass to let you see a whole hour and a half early, gee thats game winning and helps to see who their first round opponent is and then what? prepare builds against the entire bracket?


lol

I'm going to agree, something tells me it's something like an EG rep asking for the bracket and seeing it, when anyone could've asked for it. Considering MLG isn't very organized (we still having issues with the open bracket?), it's more like the information is available but not easily visible. Maybe you should've asked, goswser.

Your intuition is terrible. No it was not available, and no, me asking wouldn't have told me anything. Maybe you should listen to someone who is actually at the event andn stop being an idiot. And me and idra are not chums, but that isn't the point and has nothing to do with what I am saying. Obviously it isn't game changing against Stalife, but that isn't the point. My other post was just taking a shot at idra by the way.


Apparently you're getting a lot of hate from forum posters. Honestly I have no idea why. Thanks a bunch for the information.


yeah, thanks for the info, you know if this was the other way around then everyone would be going crazy including idra


Yeah, why do the intelligent thing when you can whine on tl/twitter or to your friends. Great logic.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
August 25 2012 11:38 GMT
#891
gogo Scarlett, looking dominant
Simsallabin
Profile Joined June 2012
Nepal216 Posts
August 25 2012 13:24 GMT
#892
Woohoo IdrA wining and seeing goswser whining makes this a really special tournament. Gogo and win in China again mr Fields.

Woop!
pNRG
Profile Joined February 2012
United States333 Posts
August 25 2012 14:08 GMT
#893
Gogogo IdrA. Really want to see Greg make a resurgence. Bring it home for USA.
"He's like a Kakuna with Flamestrike." - Artosis 25.7.2014 \\ "Sometimes you gotta' be manly to get out of the group stage, Reynad." -Artosis 17.10.2014 \\ “There goes your dream of a frivolous lawsuit with a brewing company.” – Tasteless 26.8.2015
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
August 25 2012 14:15 GMT
#894
This accusation is pants-on-head retarded. What advantage exactly would knowing the first round and being able to extrapolate with only limited accuracy the second? More to the point how does that help IdrA in LB-R5? Guess all that super secret EG info was what helped HuK bomb out so quickly too.

Christ this forum sometimes
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jobber123rd
Profile Joined December 2011
United States501 Posts
August 25 2012 14:34 GMT
#895
On August 25 2012 18:59 RageBot wrote:
When are the WCS games today?


15:00 GMT (+00:00) - 16:00 GMT (+00:00) Losers Final
22:00 GMT (+00:00) - 02:00 GMT (+00:00) Consolation Match(es)**
00:00 GMT (+00:00) - 02:00 GMT (+00:00) Final

**Matches may be delayed if there is a Summer Championship Schedule conflict.
"I'm always going to survive. Only reason I can't survive is if I'm dead or something." --Mike Tyson
MrSexington
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1768 Posts
August 25 2012 16:02 GMT
#896
On August 25 2012 23:34 jobber123rd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 18:59 RageBot wrote:
When are the WCS games today?


15:00 GMT (+00:00) - 16:00 GMT (+00:00) Losers Final
22:00 GMT (+00:00) - 02:00 GMT (+00:00) Consolation Match(es)**
00:00 GMT (+00:00) - 02:00 GMT (+00:00) Final

**Matches may be delayed if there is a Summer Championship Schedule conflict.


I'm interested in this bit from Liquipedia:

"Scarlett and ViBE will finish in qualifying positions, but since they had already qualified for the World Championship (by winning the Canada and USA Nationals, respectively), seeds will be awarded to the 8th and 9th place finishers. The 9th place finisher will be determined by a single elimination consolation bracket between the players who are eliminated in Losers Bracket Round 4."

The players eliminated in Loser's Bracket Round 4 are:

Suppy
DdoRo
Fitzyhere
HuK

I hope they show all of the matches.
LogiiK
Profile Joined June 2011
France185 Posts
August 25 2012 17:38 GMT
#897
I'm so happy in this tournament ROOT > EG, just a shame money < level
Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 23:32:29
August 25 2012 23:31 GMT
#898
The consolation matches for 9th place (which sends you to WCS Finals in China) are going on
So far HuK beat Fitzy 2-0
2012_Battle.net_North_American_Championship#Consolation_Bracket

Also WCS NA Finals coming up on Blue. Scarlett vs ViBE
Liquipedia
Durlamor
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada40 Posts
August 25 2012 23:47 GMT
#899
Is there any idea when Suppy v Ddoro is occurring? Or if it's already on how is it going?
jarhead271
Profile Joined October 2010
United States160 Posts
August 26 2012 00:18 GMT
#900
What the hell is with the blue stream freezing after every 15 seconds?
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