[Day 1] MLG Summer Championship - Page 3

On August 23 2012 17:13 Hall0wed wrote:
I don't know how to fix it but it seems weird that the 2 highest seeds in each bracket get open bracket players. Sure it makes sense but when you think about it the open bracket players will likely be stronger than a good portion of players already seeded. Imagine the lucky player seeded #1 or #2 that ends up playing MKP right off the bat, win or lose you would still expect a weaker opponent right off the bat.

On August 23 2012 23:04 NateTron wrote:
Anyone else think it's dumb that 1 and 2 seeds have to play the Open Bracket Winners? It's the way tournaments are usually run, sure (NCAA #1 seed plays vs play-in-game winner) but here the players that come out of the open bracket are going to be way, way stronger than players like QXC, Sasquatch, etc.

Also, is this standard MLG everything Bo3?

Thanks

On August 23 2012 23:04 NateTron wrote:
Anyone else think it's dumb that 1 and 2 seeds have to play the Open Bracket Winners? It's the way tournaments are usually run, sure (NCAA #1 seed plays vs play-in-game winner) but here the players that come out of the open bracket are going to be way, way stronger than players like QXC, Sasquatch, etc.

Also, is this standard MLG everything Bo3?

Thanks

On August 23 2012 23:32 Lazzi wrote:
I have to say that I disagree with the bo7 final . why wouldn't the player from the winner bracket have an advantage?

On August 23 2012 23:30 jobber123rd wrote:


Yeah, the seeding falls flat because 17-24 were supposed to be KeSPA, and after that fell through, due to time tand travel constraints, they still couldn't get the real 17-24 from Arena. Also, the system runs into problems because it's based on Summer season performance, but some of the strongest players will only show up for the Championship (additionally, MLG treats qualifier results equally for seeding, but the #12 KR Invite Qualifier finisher (for example) is likely to be stronger than the #12 from the other regions).

However, the only effective "fix" I can see for all that is having some subjective component to the seeding (like NCAA basketball/baseball/football tournaments), and that opens up another set of issues.

For what it's worth, at least the #1 and #2 seeds get Friday off for extra rest/acclimation or scouting the competition or whatever.

It's Bo3 for most matches. Bo7 extended series will occur if it's a rematch in the same phase of the tournament (Groups or Championship), or if a Group Final or Semifinal Match is a non-rematch and the Losers Bracket Player wins the initial Bo3.

The Championship Bracket Final will be a single Bo7 (split bracket similar to Summer Arena ensures no funky rematch or WB/LB scenarios).

On August 23 2012 23:53 NateTron wrote:
I agree with everything you said pretty much and obviously they won't change it this late in the game, but as soon as they looked at the list of players they're now seeding into the groups after KESPA dropped out, it should have been obvious that the system was flawed. If i could have any seed at all, it'd be third seed, no question. I think everyone in their right minds would determine that in about 30 seconds--- I get to play Binski, qxc, caliber, or Gix. No offense intended to those players at all, it's just that they're nowhere near the CALIBER (pun) of players that are in the open bracket...players MLG assumedly knew long before we did.

Only other solution I would have at this point would be to let the players reseed themselves, with first seed having first pick, second seed having second pick, as MLG did at their Summer Arena. But, that's probably not going to happen. Oh well, I guess if you want to win the tourney you have to beat everyone before its all said and done anyways. I just hope Hero vs. MKP doesn't happen first round.

On August 24 2012 00:22 jobber123rd wrote:


That would be a nice solution -- with the current 3/6 & 4/5 matches scheduled for Friday, the top seeds could have a choice of having a known (and likely weaker) opponent in Round 1 or waiting until Saturday afternoon to play. It's likely that they'd all pick the #6 or #5 seeds, and we'd get to watch the top Group players on Friday (which is about the best we can get at this point).

Too bad you're not in charge.