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Scareb
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany173 Posts
August 25 2012 09:12 GMT
#3061
I dont want to watch the MLG games, I just want to watch the WCS games! Thats why i love our EU hosts like ESL or DH! You dont have to pay to watch the VoDs or replays. So sad right now, Idra is doing a major combac and I can't watch the games! *really really sad panda!*
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24602 Posts
August 25 2012 09:18 GMT
#3062
I'm having an issue with the VODs where they'll go black where there are commercials and then the stream never resumes. Whenever I try to go back or change it around it reboots from the start again. Anyone got any ideas?
elKaDor
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden376 Posts
August 25 2012 09:32 GMT
#3063
On August 25 2012 13:35 SeaSmoke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 13:34 elKaDor wrote:
wtf blue stream says that it will be back tomorrow? i cant watch it


I'll let them know you can't watch tomorrow...I'm sure they'll change up their schedule for u


haha didnt mean like that, when major vs idra was i still couldnt see it cuz it said that it will be back tomorrow :/
flake
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Estonia53 Posts
August 25 2012 09:36 GMT
#3064
Very disappointed that you can't fast forward anymore on low resolutions without the HD pass. So that means to see a game i might have looked forward to at the end of the day i need to have it running for 7 hours.I'm usually not the type to log on to write a complaint post, but that kind of movement in the worse direction is quite sad.
Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
August 25 2012 09:47 GMT
#3065
I've checked out the bracket on liquipedia and it makes no sense whatsoever, anyone telll me what's going?
budar
Profile Joined February 2011
175 Posts
August 25 2012 09:50 GMT
#3066
Not sure what you mean, but the pools are now little double-elim brackets instead of round robin play (probably because they are now bigger so round robin would take too long). They're still just playing for a position in the championship bracket. First place leads to the winners bracket semis I guess, others to some position in the lower bracket, as before.
ThisIsRaichu
Profile Joined May 2012
66 Posts
August 25 2012 10:19 GMT
#3067
On August 25 2012 18:18 Heartland wrote:
I'm having an issue with the VODs where they'll go black where there are commercials and then the stream never resumes. Whenever I try to go back or change it around it reboots from the start again. Anyone got any ideas?


Yea you just have to watch the stream from the start, and pray there is absolutely nothing interrupting it or you have to start all over again.
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
August 25 2012 10:29 GMT
#3068
On August 25 2012 19:19 ThisIsRaichu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 18:18 Heartland wrote:
I'm having an issue with the VODs where they'll go black where there are commercials and then the stream never resumes. Whenever I try to go back or change it around it reboots from the start again. Anyone got any ideas?


Yea you just have to watch the stream from the start, and pray there is absolutely nothing interrupting it or you have to start all over again.


MLG taking several steps backwards with this event Did nothing to capitilze on IPL's lackluster performance or the fact that IEM blew them out of the water.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-25 10:38:27
August 25 2012 10:29 GMT
#3069
MLG taking several steps backwards with this event Did nothing to capitilze on IPL's lackluster performance or the fact that IEM and Asus Rog blew them out of the water.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
Shade_FR
Profile Joined June 2010
France378 Posts
August 25 2012 10:31 GMT
#3070
What a bad decision from MLG... We (european players) shouldn't be punished like that...
I tweeted to some MLG staff members, you should do it as well, I hope they'll understand and allow us to skip through the restream...
EU Zerg player - Streaming @ http://twitch.tv/shade_cst
Shikada
Profile Joined May 2012
Serbia976 Posts
August 25 2012 10:55 GMT
#3071
What a douche move by MLG, not being able to rewind the rebroadcast without paying. If I was thinking of buying a HD pass, I'm not anymore.
berndniph
Profile Joined April 2011
95 Posts
August 25 2012 11:23 GMT
#3072
i have a hd pass, and premium stream 1 isn't loading.

i mean wtf ... now i'm can't even watch yesterdays mks game ...
berndniph
Profile Joined April 2011
95 Posts
August 25 2012 11:32 GMT
#3073
get a hd pass to watch all the vods from day 1:

simply not true, there are nor vods from the open bracket ....
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
August 25 2012 12:00 GMT
#3074
On August 25 2012 20:32 berndniph wrote:
get a hd pass to watch all the vods from day 1:

simply not true, there are nor vods from the open bracket ....


They won't release the replays either lol. We'll never see them. Joke tournament.
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
LOLingBuddha
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands697 Posts
August 25 2012 12:25 GMT
#3075
On August 25 2012 19:55 Shikada wrote:
What a douche move by MLG, not being able to rewind the rebroadcast without paying. If I was thinking of buying a HD pass, I'm not anymore.

Sounds like you wouldnt pay for an HD pass anyway if you ahd all the functionality you depend on.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
August 25 2012 13:58 GMT
#3076
i cant skip thorugh the restream with an hd ticket either, wth
budar
Profile Joined February 2011
175 Posts
August 25 2012 13:59 GMT
#3077
On August 25 2012 21:25 Artimo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 19:55 Shikada wrote:
What a douche move by MLG, not being able to rewind the rebroadcast without paying. If I was thinking of buying a HD pass, I'm not anymore.

Sounds like you wouldnt pay for an HD pass anyway if you ahd all the functionality you depend on.


So I guess that makes him worthless and it's OK he can't watch anything? Lets be real here, with a 7+ hour Flash stream, what are the chances it won't crash before you get to the end? And then you have to start all over. So basically, you can watch the first few hours of the show, and those first few hours you've already seen the day before prior to going to sleep at 1am or whatever.

Also, watching the whole show live is fine because you know that they are setting up games and the long delays between games (aka casters "analyzing the game") are fine, but watching that the day after is really a horrible experience.

I actually supported their Arena PPV thing although I knew I wasn't going to be buying it (nor did i "pirate" it, i.e. watch restreams etc.). So now they make up a story how the Arenas were so successful that they are canceling them and everything will be freemium - except they didn't say that means Europeans can't watch without HD passes.

Btw, $15 might not be much for most people MLG cares about (mainly NA folks), but if you're making 3-4 times less in salary than the average US person and have higher living expenses than in the US, then the economics of buying the HD pass get a whole lot different.
LOLingBuddha
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands697 Posts
August 25 2012 14:17 GMT
#3078
On August 25 2012 22:59 budar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 21:25 Artimo wrote:
On August 25 2012 19:55 Shikada wrote:
What a douche move by MLG, not being able to rewind the rebroadcast without paying. If I was thinking of buying a HD pass, I'm not anymore.

Sounds like you wouldnt pay for an HD pass anyway if you ahd all the functionality you depend on.


So I guess that makes him worthless and it's OK he can't watch anything? .

you need to be careful putting words in people's mouths, i never said, implied anything of the sort.

and he only mentioned REWINDING, going forward in the VOD was never mentioned by him.

and if i agree with what MLG has chosen or not is a completely separate issue from my statement.

many people like to bitch because they arent getting stuff for free.

also the more features you give for free, the higher the quality you give for free the less people will actually purchase anything, because there is no incentive to fork over money because you are absolutely content with everything you got for free.

again just to make sure you dont misunderstand my point, i am not agreeing or disagreeing with the choice by MLG to not be able to rewind (or fast forward) the stream.
Shikada
Profile Joined May 2012
Serbia976 Posts
August 25 2012 14:33 GMT
#3079
On August 25 2012 21:25 Artimo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 19:55 Shikada wrote:
What a douche move by MLG, not being able to rewind the rebroadcast without paying. If I was thinking of buying a HD pass, I'm not anymore.

Sounds like you wouldnt pay for an HD pass anyway if you ahd all the functionality you depend on.


You know, it might sound like it to you, but that's clearly not what I said. I was considering buying an HD ticket for the last MLG, and I would surely buy one if it meant I couldn't have watched the Kespa players last time. I was also considering buying a ticket with my friends for the MLG before that, so we could watch together in HD. But now, I don't want to buy anything from a company that presumes that having such sadistic functionality as being able to watch the rebroadcast, but not rewind it, is a good idea. That's there clearly just to irritate people into buying it. Personally I would prefer for MLG to convince me to buy it by having really good production quality and extra perks. I don't know, I'm just weird like that, I guess.

I mean I watched the hell out of the last IEM. I watched for free, in HD, I had access to VODs in a really short amount of time and also replay packs of all the games played. Now next time that IEM asks 10$ or 15$ for 1080p or something, I will seriously consider buying it, even though watching in 720p is just fine for me, but I would like to support them. Because the quality they gave out for free was better than anything I saw MLG dish out. It can only get more awesome with our financial support right ?

And like budar said, a 15 or 30$ dollar investment isn't trivial to some people, especially in SC2 target audience, ie. probably not yet employed young males.
LOLingBuddha
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands697 Posts
August 25 2012 14:45 GMT
#3080
On August 25 2012 23:33 Shikada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2012 21:25 Artimo wrote:
On August 25 2012 19:55 Shikada wrote:
What a douche move by MLG, not being able to rewind the rebroadcast without paying. If I was thinking of buying a HD pass, I'm not anymore.

Sounds like you wouldnt pay for an HD pass anyway if you ahd all the functionality you depend on.


You know, it might sound like it to you, but that's clearly not what I said. I was considering buying an HD ticket for the last MLG, and I would surely buy one if it meant I couldn't have watched the Kespa players last time. I was also considering buying a ticket with my friends for the MLG before that, so we could watch together in HD. But now, I don't want to buy anything from a company that presumes that having such sadistic functionality as being able to watch the rebroadcast, but not rewind it, is a good idea. That's there clearly just to irritate people into buying it. Personally I would prefer for MLG to convince me to buy it by having really good production quality and extra perks. I don't know, I'm just weird like that, I guess.

I mean I watched the hell out of the last IEM. I watched for free, in HD, I had access to VODs in a really short amount of time and also replay packs of all the games played. Now next time that IEM asks 10$ or 15$ for 1080p or something, I will seriously consider buying it, even though watching in 720p is just fine for me, but I would like to support them. Because the quality they gave out for free was better than anything I saw MLG dish out. It can only get more awesome with our financial support right ?

And like budar said, a 15 or 30$ dollar investment isn't trivial to some people, especially in SC2 target audience, ie. probably not yet employed young males.

Ok, fair enough.

what would MLG need to do for you to pull you over the line? serious question!

Is the ability of viewing the rebroadcast with rewind and fast forward functionality enough? or is there something extra that would also need to happen before you are convinced?

Because most previous MLGs offered the rewind and fast forward functionality.

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