EPT[Day 2] IEM Cologne 2012 - Groups A&B - Page 137
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Scrubwave
Poland1786 Posts
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Bam Lee
2336 Posts
On August 17 2012 01:21 MorroW wrote: such investment might be worth it against this particular build but the problem is toss has more allins, and some would crush face against a zerg that techs lair+drop that quickly for example a mass gateway timing attack would be very hard to stop, or blink stalker allins to get lair that quickly you need to sacrifice a lot of other things, and you need to make these sacrifices before you know what protoss is doing i guess the only way is to try to delay his push and bait forcefields on the middle of the map and then setup a flank like violet tried? | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
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Havik_
United States5585 Posts
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
I personally enjoyed watching mvp crush face in French. "Le Barbeque" made me chuckle  | ||
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EmmeCY
Malaysia417 Posts
On August 17 2012 01:23 BackSideAttack wrote: You know its a lot of harder for Asians to learn English than it is for most Europeans because of the structure of the language. As an asian, i have to support this statement. There's quite a lot of Yoda grammar of 'rice, we eat' going on in our language. | ||
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n0ise
3452 Posts
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Vapaach
Finland994 Posts
On August 17 2012 01:21 MorroW wrote: such investment might be worth it against this particular build but the problem is toss has more allins, and some would crush face against a zerg that techs lair+drop that quickly for example a mass gateway timing attack would be very hard to stop, or blink stalker allins to get lair that quickly you need to sacrifice a lot of other things, and you need to make these sacrifices before you know what protoss is doing Hmm, that might be true. I don't play zerg so I am not fully aware of the exact timing you have to start transitioning into drops and how much you have to sacrifice, but against forge FE you can scout quite nicely because the first stalker comes out really late. Personally I think flanking is the best way to counter this strategy, as shown by violet. It still won't be easy, but definitely possible. The sentry energy is vital, and the zerg has to be very active to milk out forcefields whenever possible and try to engage from multiple angles. Maybe Blizz should patch the ventral sacs research time.. | ||
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Scrubwave
Poland1786 Posts
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27206 Posts
On August 17 2012 01:24 Havik_ wrote: 2 base all in for life yo. Puts down third base  | ||
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4Servy
Netherlands1542 Posts
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oogieogie
United States3657 Posts
On August 17 2012 01:24 Bam Lee wrote: i guess the only way is to try to delay his push and bait forcefields on the middle of the map and then setup a flank like violet tried? There was enough FFs that feast just sectioned off both armys since he had like 7 sentrys or something. If you try to bait out FFs then you could just lose a chunk of your army, and then you are most likely dead for sure. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
3 bases all-in then. (; | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27206 Posts
Still preferable to BLs and Infestors, AGAIN | ||
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
On August 17 2012 01:24 Bam Lee wrote: i guess the only way is to try to delay his push and bait forcefields on the middle of the map and then setup a flank like violet tried? yep theres a ton of different maneovers you need to do and have them work out and then its definetly possible to stop this immortal allin. if it wasnt possible to stop with the standard zerg timings everyone would do this build pretty much every game violet were on the right track but its not just about massing units and macroing correctly and you stop it. you need to actually do so many things right and in the end youll kill the toss army without losing your drones or the 3rd hatch. it is just extremely hard to say the least | ||
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Whatson
United States5357 Posts
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Kasaraki
Denmark7115 Posts
On August 17 2012 01:25 EmmeCY wrote: As an asian, i have to support this statement. There's quite a lot of Yoda grammar of 'rice, we eat' going on in our language. Add to that the entirely different alphabet. | ||
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YoungTyTy
United States801 Posts
On August 17 2012 01:25 EmmeCY wrote: As an asian, i have to support this statement. There's quite a lot of Yoda grammar of 'rice, we eat' going on in our language. There's that, and then there's the fact that the closest english speaking country is a lot closer for those in Europe. The closest for any asian country is Australia and I would assume there's not as much integration between those as there are between Europeans. | ||
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