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aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
August 16 2012 16:27 GMT
#2741
actually the sim city isn't perfect yet, nestea can still do damage
can i get my estro logo back pls
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 16:28:52
August 16 2012 16:27 GMT
#2742
Has anyone noticed that Mvp doesn't even bother to mix some other strats with his mech lately.
gcruz
Profile Joined January 2011
United States82 Posts
August 16 2012 16:28 GMT
#2743
dat probe micro
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
August 16 2012 16:28 GMT
#2744
That was.. .. special...

Wp by Feast.
Saat
Profile Joined August 2012
France65 Posts
August 16 2012 16:28 GMT
#2745
Omg, dat micro.
THELEHGOTERRAN
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1837 Posts
August 16 2012 16:28 GMT
#2746
hmm maybe nestea shoulda just went for probe instead of fighting in that choke..
IMMVP // HIKARU NAKAMURA // DEREK JETER // GARETH BALE
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
August 16 2012 16:28 GMT
#2747
where is mvp playing ? :o
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
August 16 2012 16:28 GMT
#2748
That boy Feast can micro
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
August 16 2012 16:28 GMT
#2749
That was great micro...


But still, IMNESTEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Blaec
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia4289 Posts
August 16 2012 16:28 GMT
#2750
Holy shit Feast. That was just so fucking good.
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
August 16 2012 16:28 GMT
#2751
could have killed all the probes. maybe even the nexus.

chose to hump forcefields instead.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 16 2012 16:29 GMT
#2752
On August 17 2012 01:27 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 01:26 TheDwf wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:25 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:24 Havik_ wrote:
2 base all in for life yo.

Puts down third base

3 bases all-in then. (;

Still preferable to BLs and Infestors, AGAIN

My thoughts precisely. I mean, this kind of attack aims at killing the Zerg before he gets them anyway.
Vapaach
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland994 Posts
August 16 2012 16:29 GMT
#2753
This build is so cool I am totally stealing it ^^
If you never try you never know. Sase - Mana - TLO - WhiteRa - Naniwa - Sheth - HuK
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
August 16 2012 16:29 GMT
#2754
On August 17 2012 01:26 Asha` wrote:
MVP vs Violet on the french and polish streams

We're spoiled for choice. I think I'm going with the french one. I really like how "le barbecue" sounds.
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
August 16 2012 16:29 GMT
#2755
On August 17 2012 01:27 Wildmoon wrote:
Has anyone noticed that Mvp doesn't even bother to mix some other strats with his mech lately.


he won vs polt going marine tank game 2 of their wcs series
can i get my estro logo back pls
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
August 16 2012 16:29 GMT
#2756
Wondering when pro zergs are going to stop banging their heads against a FF for two minutes straight...
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
August 16 2012 16:29 GMT
#2757
On August 17 2012 01:27 MorroW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 01:24 Bam Lee wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:21 MorroW wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:18 Vapaach wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:17 MorroW wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:14 Vapaach wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:12 Orek wrote:
Has Zerg community collectively come up with the best answer for this 2 base immortal/sentry? This build has been around for about half a year now, but still the answer seems up in the air with only vague ideas.


I think roach drops, when executed correctly, are the ultimate answer. The massive investment to sentries will be absolutely useless, and sentries are the backbone of that army.

too bad roach drop, muta, infestor techs wont be out for these timings


I think there was some GSL game where DRG absolutely crushed this all-in on entombed valley with roach drops, sadly I can't recall what the game was. It will put a dent in your eco yes, but it is not impossible to have it at around 10 mins.

such investment might be worth it against this particular build

but the problem is toss has more allins, and some would crush face against a zerg that techs lair+drop that quickly

for example a mass gateway timing attack would be very hard to stop, or blink stalker allins

to get lair that quickly you need to sacrifice a lot of other things, and you need to make these sacrifices before you know what protoss is doing

i guess the only way is to try to delay his push and bait forcefields on the middle of the map and then setup a flank like violet tried?

yep theres a ton of different maneovers you need to do and have them work out and then its definetly possible to stop this immortal allin.
if it wasnt possible to stop with the standard zerg timings everyone would do this build pretty much every game

violet were on the right track but its not just about massing units and macroing correctly and you stop it. you need to actually do so many things right and in the end youll kill the toss army without losing your drones or the 3rd hatch. it is just extremely hard to say the least

Do you feel as a pro it's a fair tradeoff difficulty wise to deflect this, it sounds like one of the most challenging builds to hold off as a Zerg player
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
August 16 2012 16:29 GMT
#2758
Terrible control from Nestea, only reason Feast didn't lose all his sentries and probes
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
August 16 2012 16:29 GMT
#2759
you build some voidrays...

expect biozergball.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
August 16 2012 16:29 GMT
#2760
Yeah.. 19 mutas will basically straight-up win him the game.
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