On August 16 2012 02:47 sc2holar wrote:
Comparing fiction and reality makes sense.
Comparing fiction and reality makes sense.
I have no words for hypocrisy on that level.
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
August 15 2012 17:48 GMT
#3701
On August 16 2012 02:47 sc2holar wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2012 02:45 Dosey wrote: On August 16 2012 02:41 Orek wrote: Only 2 choices: 1. Keep those controversial languages, keep this community relatively small and not aiim at growing e-sports much because addition of more people cause more language problems. 2. Try to cater to more people to grow the community like other sports. Just like no country's team is said to have raped or murdered another country's team in olympics, we need to refrain from using some words. Sometimes, it is inconvinient, but we sacrifice it in favor of having bigger e-sports community. You can't do both. It is our choice. GRRM can write an explicit rape scene in a book - It's a best seller and no one complains Someone mentions the word rape on a forum - The entire community is instantly labeled as cancerous and insensitive, preventing the scene from growing Makes sense. Comparing fiction and reality makes sense. I have no words for hypocrisy on that level. | ||
AgentChaos
United Kingdom4569 Posts
August 15 2012 17:48 GMT
#3702
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LovE-
United States1963 Posts
August 15 2012 17:48 GMT
#3703
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 15 2012 17:49 GMT
#3704
On August 16 2012 02:48 Darneck wrote: Tarson holds! Well does he have +1? | ||
Thobrik
Sweden1120 Posts
August 15 2012 17:49 GMT
#3705
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xrapture
United States1644 Posts
August 15 2012 17:49 GMT
#3706
On August 16 2012 02:49 Thobrik wrote: Forgg is really ahead, what are they on about? Yea, there's really no reason to have these streams unmuted if pros aren't casting. | ||
FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
August 15 2012 17:50 GMT
#3707
On August 16 2012 02:48 AgentChaos wrote: not sure how jyp couldnt kill forgg there >.< JYPvT bro :/ | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland23759 Posts
August 15 2012 17:50 GMT
#3708
On August 16 2012 02:48 The KY wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2012 02:45 Fjodorov wrote: On August 16 2012 02:41 Orek wrote: Only 2 choices: 1. Keep those controversial languages, keep this community relatively small and not aiim at growing e-sports much because addition of more people cause more language problems. 2. Try to cater to more people to grow the community like other sports. Just like no country's team is said to have raped or murdered another country's team in olympics, we need to refrain from using some words. Sometimes, it is inconvinient, but we sacrifice it in favor of having bigger e-sports community. You can't do both. It is our choice. If you look up , lets say a football forum, where there are supporters of different teams taking part in threads. i assure you that there will be words in those threads that will make your eyes bleed. Stop acting like e-esports fans are any worse then random supporters of other sports involving mostly younger males. Yeah this is really the crux of it; you'll never hear 'Man U are absolutely raping Arsenal!' from the commentators but on a forum or in a pub you will hear that and worse. Football fans are insufferable in general, and that's coming from a big fan of the sport. The more morons follow an activity the less enjoyable it can become for the rest of us, it's why I'd be perfectly happy for E-sports to get a bit bigger, but plateau in popularity at some point | ||
Chessz
United States644 Posts
August 15 2012 17:50 GMT
#3709
On August 16 2012 02:46 Jacobs Ladder wrote: Show nested quote + Why not both? Why not avoid triggering people as well as providing them help. There's a difference between not flagrantly using the word rape and not addressing rape. Again, my whole philosophy on this issue is just try to be kind to your fellow man.On August 16 2012 02:40 bo1b wrote: On August 16 2012 02:38 Jacobs Ladder wrote: On August 16 2012 02:36 Shiori wrote: On August 16 2012 02:34 Chessz wrote: On August 16 2012 02:27 Shiori wrote: On August 16 2012 02:26 Le BucheRON wrote: On August 16 2012 02:23 Shiori wrote: On August 16 2012 02:21 Le BucheRON wrote: On August 16 2012 02:17 Sc2Null wrote: [quote] The guy is obviously trolling..If someone wants to say 'rape' or 'butt molested', thats his/her choice..You asking will only make them say it more. Yes, but someday someone they love will be affected in this way and they'll be the ones that prefer others not to use this slang/terminology. Just grow up and use a better word that doesn't involve imagery of someone forcibly violating someone. Did you know rape can refer to molestation in a completely non-personal sense? For example, the French imperialists raped the Haitian natural resources. Unless you think the French literally started fucking the dirt, you'e going to need to adopt a wider view of what words mean. Yes, and rape is also another word for canola (where the oil comes from) but come on. We all know the connection here. I'm not going around calling people "faggot" and excusing myself because it has different meanings (cigarette, pile of wood). I'm pretty sure when I use the word "rape" to describe utterly dominating and crushing someone in the context of competition, I'm not referring to them actually having held down the opposing player and fucked them. Yea i'm sure that's the connotation you're applying to the word, but you actually undermine your own argument because in usage/linguistics debates, an appeal to context goes both ways (ie. sensitive to both sender and receiver of a message). So there isn't any reason to not avoid potential harm on behalf of the receivers of your message. It's not the horrible terrible faux pas some make it out to be, but you can't argue for your own use by asserting only your denotation applies. Cause it will always go both ways. It just boils down to lazy/juvenile diction if anything. Well aware of that. I understand why people might be offended by the use of a touchy word. I think that's their error, though. See, this is what I don't get. Why should you use a touchy word which you could easily avoid? Its so much easier to avoid those words and not harm someone. Even if you feel its somewhat irrational of them, why not just make a minimum effort to be kind to your fellow man? Do you feel it's societies fault that a band aid solution to a problem is better then actually fixing it? Is wishing that people didn't mention rape better then providing support and therapy to people who were raped? It's a shame these two things are simultaneously perceived to be trivial: 1) the flagrant use of "rape" 2) the effort needed to choose different words/expand vocabulary | ||
yawnoC
United States3704 Posts
August 15 2012 17:51 GMT
#3710
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AgentChaos
United Kingdom4569 Posts
August 15 2012 17:51 GMT
#3711
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
August 15 2012 17:51 GMT
#3712
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HolydaKing
21253 Posts
August 15 2012 17:51 GMT
#3713
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sOda~
United Kingdom441 Posts
August 15 2012 17:51 GMT
#3714
On August 16 2012 02:49 xrapture wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2012 02:49 Thobrik wrote: Forgg is really ahead, what are they on about? Yea, there's really no reason to have these streams unmuted if pros aren't casting. nice1 | ||
GumBa
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 15 2012 17:51 GMT
#3715
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Ryps
Romania2740 Posts
August 15 2012 17:51 GMT
#3716
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 15 2012 17:51 GMT
#3717
Puma: Because you touched yourself. | ||
imre
France9263 Posts
August 15 2012 17:51 GMT
#3718
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Bashion
Cook Islands2612 Posts
August 15 2012 17:51 GMT
#3719
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
August 15 2012 17:51 GMT
#3720
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