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sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 22:19:49
August 04 2012 22:19 GMT
#721
On August 05 2012 07:17 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 07:16 sc2holar wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:13 sAsImre wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:12 MCDayC wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:08 Mtuhk wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:04 Pipeline wrote:
Its crazy how different the PvT matchup look if you compare Select vs Creator and MC vs Taeja.


Yeah, the "skill cap" (allthough it's not exactly a cap, you can allways become better) is just insane with terrans when you compare it to the other two. Then again when you start counting clear mistakes made by the terran player, not necessarily even micro mistakes but macro, and you'll be hard pressed to find any in Taeja's play unlike Select's.

lol, the Taeja hype has blinded you, Taeja is fucking AMAZING, but he still makes lots of clear macro mistakes, arguably the most mistakes of any of the top Terrans that are close to his skill.


his builds choice are sometimes pretty stupide too. A tad too greedy from time to time.


Taeja has the undisputed best army control of all terrans in the world.

when it comes to builds and macro, i would say MVP is on a much higher level.

if you could combine the two... you would get Flash.


I'd say MKP have something to say about army control.

Taeja have better decision making than MKP though

I think their control is on par when they are both playing at their best, except Taejas control doesnt suffer from nerves.
you no take candle
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 04 2012 22:19 GMT
#722
Wow wtf Select is building 4 viking at a time... that's not good
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 22:20:14
August 04 2012 22:19 GMT
#723
On August 05 2012 07:18 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 07:17 Shiori wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:17 TheDwf wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:15 Shiori wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:14 TheDwf wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:13 Shiori wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:12 TheDwf wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:11 aviator116 wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:10 TheDwf wrote:
Failed probe attack

what?

Probes failed, but the Zealot got too many unnecessary kills.

Probes are there to delay the CC and force SCV pull. Terran's econ gets super far behind even though they went CC first because of the lost mining time, where Toss can continue to Chrono Probes and expo because the Terran will have 1 Marine.

That went exactly as Creator needed it to.

Not really, once the CC is finished the Terran can retreat to his main behind his wall. SeleCT lost 5 SCVs because he wanted to bunker on lowground, he could have kept all of them safely at main while waiting enough Marines to go down.

...And he would have had no CC, because the Probes are there to deny the building SCV. Unless you pull SCVs, you can't actually finish the CC. If you bunker on the highground, the Protoss laughs at you and just gets an even earlier expand.

You retreat at main AFTER the CC is complete, isn't it obvious?

You need to pull SCVs to complete the CC or else your constructing SCV will die.

Are you trolling me?

Are you trolling? If you think going up to the high ground is the solution to the Probe harass you're actually clueless.

You will automatically die to a single rallied in Stalker if you don't get a Bunker up ASAP.
xmungam
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1050 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 22:20:30
August 04 2012 22:19 GMT
#724
WTf i can't believe that happened

why did select pick up there?

ok 3-3 for creator omg pushing in

gg

wow
youtube.com/xmungam ~~ twitch.tv/thenessman
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 04 2012 22:19 GMT
#725
oh god select >.<
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
August 04 2012 22:19 GMT
#726
Select has seen multiple times that there is still only one colossus and he's still making vikings >_<
Moka
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada942 Posts
August 04 2012 22:19 GMT
#727
On August 05 2012 07:17 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 07:16 sc2holar wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:13 sAsImre wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:12 MCDayC wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:08 Mtuhk wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:04 Pipeline wrote:
Its crazy how different the PvT matchup look if you compare Select vs Creator and MC vs Taeja.


Yeah, the "skill cap" (allthough it's not exactly a cap, you can allways become better) is just insane with terrans when you compare it to the other two. Then again when you start counting clear mistakes made by the terran player, not necessarily even micro mistakes but macro, and you'll be hard pressed to find any in Taeja's play unlike Select's.

lol, the Taeja hype has blinded you, Taeja is fucking AMAZING, but he still makes lots of clear macro mistakes, arguably the most mistakes of any of the top Terrans that are close to his skill.


his builds choice are sometimes pretty stupide too. A tad too greedy from time to time.


Taeja has the undisputed best army control of all terrans in the world.

when it comes to builds and macro, i would say MVP is on a much higher level.

if you could combine the two... you would get Flash.


I'd actually put Byun above Taeja in terms of army control, but Taeja over Byun in terms of solid play.

I think we can agree they have immaculate ghost control, they look so OP with these lol
ヾ(@⌒_⌒@)ノ
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 04 2012 22:20 GMT
#728
On August 05 2012 07:18 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 07:17 Shiori wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:17 TheDwf wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:15 Shiori wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:14 TheDwf wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:13 Shiori wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:12 TheDwf wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:11 aviator116 wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:10 TheDwf wrote:
Failed probe attack

what?

Probes failed, but the Zealot got too many unnecessary kills.

Probes are there to delay the CC and force SCV pull. Terran's econ gets super far behind even though they went CC first because of the lost mining time, where Toss can continue to Chrono Probes and expo because the Terran will have 1 Marine.

That went exactly as Creator needed it to.

Not really, once the CC is finished the Terran can retreat to his main behind his wall. SeleCT lost 5 SCVs because he wanted to bunker on lowground, he could have kept all of them safely at main while waiting enough Marines to go down.

...And he would have had no CC, because the Probes are there to deny the building SCV. Unless you pull SCVs, you can't actually finish the CC. If you bunker on the highground, the Protoss laughs at you and just gets an even earlier expand.

You retreat at main AFTER the CC is complete, isn't it obvious?

You need to pull SCVs to complete the CC or else your constructing SCV will die.

Are you trolling me?


I'm confused are you saying the scv can complete the cc with 6 probes trying to kill it?
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 04 2012 22:20 GMT
#729
On August 05 2012 07:19 Moka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 07:17 Fragile51 wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:16 sc2holar wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:13 sAsImre wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:12 MCDayC wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:08 Mtuhk wrote:
On August 05 2012 07:04 Pipeline wrote:
Its crazy how different the PvT matchup look if you compare Select vs Creator and MC vs Taeja.


Yeah, the "skill cap" (allthough it's not exactly a cap, you can allways become better) is just insane with terrans when you compare it to the other two. Then again when you start counting clear mistakes made by the terran player, not necessarily even micro mistakes but macro, and you'll be hard pressed to find any in Taeja's play unlike Select's.

lol, the Taeja hype has blinded you, Taeja is fucking AMAZING, but he still makes lots of clear macro mistakes, arguably the most mistakes of any of the top Terrans that are close to his skill.


his builds choice are sometimes pretty stupide too. A tad too greedy from time to time.


Taeja has the undisputed best army control of all terrans in the world.

when it comes to builds and macro, i would say MVP is on a much higher level.

if you could combine the two... you would get Flash.


I'd actually put Byun above Taeja in terms of army control, but Taeja over Byun in terms of solid play.

I think we can agree they have immaculate ghost control, they look so OP with these lol


Byun's nick gives him the edge
Zest fanboy.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 22:20:56
August 04 2012 22:20 GMT
#730
What a brutal beatdown

Expected, but still, ouch
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 04 2012 22:20 GMT
#731
Ouch this is almost as one sided as curious vs lalush
Glorious SEA doto
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
August 04 2012 22:20 GMT
#732
Who'd have thought.
Lord_J
Profile Joined April 2011
Kenya1085 Posts
August 04 2012 22:20 GMT
#733
Creator really is the best in the world when it comes to reinforcing zealot warp-ins. Always has the pylon right in position, the gateway count, etc.
No relation to Monsieur J.
Pjorren
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden777 Posts
August 04 2012 22:20 GMT
#734
Ah if only Creator wouldn't have wiffed those storms.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
August 04 2012 22:21 GMT
#735
GG currently up 2/4 liquidbets gogogo first and coca
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
August 04 2012 22:21 GMT
#736
Wtf is Day9 talking about? "Select just gained a huge advantage with that attack", a few seconds later he is dead. Did he mean Creator, or what?
Get off my lawn, young punks
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
August 04 2012 22:21 GMT
#737
Like 15 supply of zealot attacking an useless CC and still.
Creator is doing the 1 colossus fake quite often.. I think SeleCt didn't study him that much
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
August 04 2012 22:21 GMT
#738
Well that was expected. Now on to what i was looking forward to the most.

GOGOGOGOGO FIRST!
xmungam
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1050 Posts
August 04 2012 22:21 GMT
#739
wait what how did select not kill the colossus?

wtfaaaaaaaaaaaaaa hahahaha omg gg 3-0 creator

creator with SO MANY ZEALOTS how do you beat zealots as terran???
youtube.com/xmungam ~~ twitch.tv/thenessman
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
August 04 2012 22:21 GMT
#740
I can totally see the Koreans blowing up their foreign opponents 3-0 throughout today.
Someone call down the Thunder?
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