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On August 05 2012 07:22 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 07:19 Shiori wrote:On August 05 2012 07:18 TheDwf wrote:On August 05 2012 07:17 Shiori wrote:On August 05 2012 07:17 TheDwf wrote:On August 05 2012 07:15 Shiori wrote:On August 05 2012 07:14 TheDwf wrote:On August 05 2012 07:13 Shiori wrote:On August 05 2012 07:12 TheDwf wrote:On August 05 2012 07:11 aviator116 wrote:
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what? Probes failed, but the Zealot got too many unnecessary kills. Probes are there to delay the CC and force SCV pull. Terran's econ gets super far behind even though they went CC first because of the lost mining time, where Toss can continue to Chrono Probes and expo because the Terran will have 1 Marine. That went exactly as Creator needed it to. Not really, once the CC is finished the Terran can retreat to his main behind his wall. SeleCT lost 5 SCVs because he wanted to bunker on lowground, he could have kept all of them safely at main while waiting enough Marines to go down. ...And he would have had no CC, because the Probes are there to deny the building SCV. Unless you pull SCVs, you can't actually finish the CC. If you bunker on the highground, the Protoss laughs at you and just gets an even earlier expand. You retreat at main AFTER the CC is complete, isn't it obvious? You need to pull SCVs to complete the CC or else your constructing SCV will die. Are you trolling me? Are you trolling? If you think going up to the high ground is the solution to the Probe harass you're actually clueless. Geez, you're so stubborn. a) You pull enough SCVs to fend off Probes while you're finishing the CC on lowground. b) Then, once the CC is complete, you retreat the SCVs at main. Can't explain better.
And you just give up mining from the CC? Okay. So the Protoss can basically deny mining for as long as he wants since you have no Bunker. So you're still incredibly behind, and your production is already later than 1rax FE.
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On August 05 2012 07:21 CosmicSpiral wrote:
I remember when people thought the foreigners had the edge in this tournament.
I remember when foreigners actually came prepared for tournaments that gave you like a month to prepare against a specific opponents.
Oh wait, I don't. 
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On August 05 2012 07:22 StarVe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 07:21 Fusilero wrote:On August 05 2012 07:21 MCDayC wrote:
Creator really loves Zealots!
3-0 3-0 from the Koreans, they're fighting back after Europeans recent success. We'll get to see how a European Korean will stack up to a Korean now. That's not fair! He hasn't been here long enough!
Shut up if he wins we can salvage this day.
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minimal "ads-in-progress" song-name anyone? :D
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On August 05 2012 07:23 red4ce wrote:
What an awful day of SC2. Between Assembly ROG and TSL4 today no close series at all. Guess it's down to a PvP to give us some excitement.
Yeah, its been all exclusively beatdowns, just bad luck though.
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On August 05 2012 07:22 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 07:22 Dodgin wrote:On August 05 2012 07:21 Qikz wrote:
Today has truely been a day of watching Terrans die. I missed the Hack game and I've gone on like a 20 game losing streak to come off and see Select lose.
Nooo! T_T Not sure if today has been the day of watching Terrans die considering who just won asus rog. Lets just quietly ignore that. T SO UP TTTTTTTTTTT
This series settles it!
TvZ Is broken!!
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On August 05 2012 07:22 YoungTyTy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 07:21 Qikz wrote:
Today has truely been a day of watching Terrans die. I missed the Hack game and I've gone on like a 20 game losing streak to come off and see Select lose.
Nooo! T_T Should have watched the ASUS ROG and you would have seen Taeja destroying everyone.
Oh god I forgot about that. I caught the finals before. Taeja <3
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On August 05 2012 07:20 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 07:19 Moka wrote:On August 05 2012 07:17 Fragile51 wrote:On August 05 2012 07:16 sc2holar wrote:On August 05 2012 07:13 sAsImre wrote:On August 05 2012 07:12 MCDayC wrote:On August 05 2012 07:08 Mtuhk wrote:On August 05 2012 07:04 Pipeline wrote:
Its crazy how different the PvT matchup look if you compare Select vs Creator and MC vs Taeja. Yeah, the "skill cap" (allthough it's not exactly a cap, you can allways become better) is just insane with terrans when you compare it to the other two. Then again when you start counting clear mistakes made by the terran player, not necessarily even micro mistakes but macro, and you'll be hard pressed to find any in Taeja's play unlike Select's. lol, the Taeja hype has blinded you, Taeja is fucking AMAZING, but he still makes lots of clear macro mistakes, arguably the most mistakes of any of the top Terrans that are close to his skill. his builds choice are sometimes pretty stupide too. A tad too greedy from time to time. Taeja has the undisputed best army control of all terrans in the world. when it comes to builds and macro, i would say MVP is on a much higher level. if you could combine the two... you would get Flash. I'd actually put Byun above Taeja in terms of army control, but Taeja over Byun in terms of solid play. I think we can agree they have immaculate ghost control, they look so OP with these lol Byun's nick gives him the edge 
When i say army control, i also mean engagement timings, flanks, concaves, etc. the decisions you make before you go into the battle, not just the battle micro. With these aspects taken into acounts, id say taeja has the best army control.
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Today will be known as...
RISE OF THE FOREIGNERS.
wait.
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Day9 picking up chicks during the cast, nothing special
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The matches have been insanely one sided so far.. To be honest I think daisy/first is the only match that I have any hope for not being a landslide if Sase's performance at WCS is to be any indicator.
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On August 05 2012 07:23 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 07:21 CosmicSpiral wrote:
I remember when people thought the foreigners had the edge in this tournament. I remember when foreigners actually came prepared for tournaments that gave you like a month to prepare against a specific opponents. Oh wait, I don't.
We haven't seen Thorzain yet.
I'm expecting (hoping with all my heart) that he brings the fire this tournament.
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On August 05 2012 07:24 FataLe wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 07:22 Fragile51 wrote:On August 05 2012 07:22 Dodgin wrote:On August 05 2012 07:21 Qikz wrote:
Today has truely been a day of watching Terrans die. I missed the Hack game and I've gone on like a 20 game losing streak to come off and see Select lose.
Nooo! T_T Not sure if today has been the day of watching Terrans die considering who just won asus rog. Lets just quietly ignore that. T SO UP TTTTTTTTTTT This series settles it! TvZ Is broken!!
Exactly...wait, what?
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On August 05 2012 07:23 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 07:21 CosmicSpiral wrote:
I remember when people thought the foreigners had the edge in this tournament. I remember when foreigners actually came prepared for tournaments that gave you like a month to prepare against a specific opponents. Oh wait, I don't.
Naniwa in GSL?^^
Also, Kas said that he prepared a lot for this.
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On August 05 2012 07:24 HaXXspetten wrote:
Day9 picking up chicks during the cast, nothing special
lol wtf just happened
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On August 05 2012 07:23 Shiori wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 07:22 TheDwf wrote:On August 05 2012 07:19 Shiori wrote:On August 05 2012 07:18 TheDwf wrote:On August 05 2012 07:17 Shiori wrote:On August 05 2012 07:17 TheDwf wrote:On August 05 2012 07:15 Shiori wrote:On August 05 2012 07:14 TheDwf wrote:On August 05 2012 07:13 Shiori wrote:On August 05 2012 07:12 TheDwf wrote:
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Probes failed, but the Zealot got too many unnecessary kills. Probes are there to delay the CC and force SCV pull. Terran's econ gets super far behind even though they went CC first because of the lost mining time, where Toss can continue to Chrono Probes and expo because the Terran will have 1 Marine. That went exactly as Creator needed it to. Not really, once the CC is finished the Terran can retreat to his main behind his wall. SeleCT lost 5 SCVs because he wanted to bunker on lowground, he could have kept all of them safely at main while waiting enough Marines to go down. ...And he would have had no CC, because the Probes are there to deny the building SCV. Unless you pull SCVs, you can't actually finish the CC. If you bunker on the highground, the Protoss laughs at you and just gets an even earlier expand. You retreat at main AFTER the CC is complete, isn't it obvious? You need to pull SCVs to complete the CC or else your constructing SCV will die. Are you trolling me? Are you trolling? If you think going up to the high ground is the solution to the Probe harass you're actually clueless. Geez, you're so stubborn. a) You pull enough SCVs to fend off Probes while you're finishing the CC on lowground. b) Then, once the CC is complete, you retreat the SCVs at main. Can't explain better. And you just give up mining from the CC? Okay. So the Protoss can basically deny mining for as long as he wants since you have no Bunker. So you're still incredibly behind, and your production is already later than 1rax FE.
Sorry? Once you have 5 Marines you go down easily. Exactly how does it matter that you're not mining from your natural for some time since a) Protoss' expand is delayed as well and b) you can still use your second MULE?
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There aren't enough rofls in the world. I'll try to throw in some lols.
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On August 05 2012 07:25 YoungTyTy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 07:24 FataLe wrote:On August 05 2012 07:22 Fragile51 wrote:On August 05 2012 07:22 Dodgin wrote:On August 05 2012 07:21 Qikz wrote:
Today has truely been a day of watching Terrans die. I missed the Hack game and I've gone on like a 20 game losing streak to come off and see Select lose.
Nooo! T_T Not sure if today has been the day of watching Terrans die considering who just won asus rog. Lets just quietly ignore that. T SO UP TTTTTTTTTTT This series settles it! TvZ Is broken!! Exactly...wait, what?
T is so underpowered. They even lose in mirror 
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Would be funny if every games today is 3-0 actually.
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Can't wait to see more of First, I loved his play at MLG.
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EPT
