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Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
August 02 2012 20:58 GMT
#3801
On August 03 2012 05:57 VanGooL wrote:
And ppl say p is favored lategame vs t ...

Yea I'm seeing more and more Terran's just crap all over Protoss lategame recently.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Sc2ttyl
Profile Joined October 2010
United States245 Posts
August 02 2012 20:58 GMT
#3802
On August 03 2012 05:57 VanGooL wrote:
And ppl say p is favored lategame vs t ...

Comes down to micro bro. Puma out microed + high ground. There are plenty of 1 sided protoss battles.
yo
Moka
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada942 Posts
August 02 2012 20:59 GMT
#3803
Did he lose a warp prism full of templars? i am not sure, oh well, wp puma!
ヾ(@⌒_⌒@)ノ
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
August 02 2012 20:59 GMT
#3804
On August 03 2012 05:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 05:58 Falconblade wrote:
FUCK YEAH! Sase out, Puma in! Really sick day for EG. All but HuK go through!

Huk sacrificed himself to the sc2 gods to lessen the EG curse and give his brethren a chance at the win

I'm starting to think that.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
hayata2.0
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada655 Posts
August 02 2012 20:59 GMT
#3805
Something went horribly wrong there...
sub 100 supply after the big fight with 2k in the bank and warp-in?
Did Sase forget to mass gateways?
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
August 02 2012 20:59 GMT
#3806
woot puma gg
hope he plays better tomorrow
IM & EG supporter
VisonKai
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2203 Posts
August 02 2012 20:59 GMT
#3807
Incoming wave of "Sase is so horrible lolololololol"
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
August 02 2012 20:59 GMT
#3808
IdrA, Puma, DeMuslim, and Suppy advance for EG. EG FIGHTING!!!!
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 21:00:44
August 02 2012 20:59 GMT
#3809
On August 03 2012 05:55 Snowbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 05:53 -_- wrote:
On August 03 2012 05:52 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 03 2012 05:50 -_- wrote:
On August 03 2012 05:44 HaXXspetten wrote:
On August 03 2012 05:43 -_- wrote:
Puma, like Taeja frustrates me as a Protoss player with his precise Viking and Ghost control. When you control those two units perfectly as a Terran, if Protoss doesn't counter with equal Micro, he'll end up with no energy Templar and a bunch of dead colossus before the battle even starts.

Cheese him out Sase!

tl;dr
if the terran outplays the protoss he wins


Haha. I wanted to be careful not to whine about balance. To state it more clearly, I believe that a Terran who can control Ghosts and Viking unbelievably can completely neuter a Protoss without the Protoss being able to do anything. This is because of snipe range, viking range, and emp range.

I feel this was more of an issue when the Ghost EMP radius was bigger. But yeah the point really is that, although Terran unit control is harder, there's a lot more you can do to gain advantages with the race


I agree, and in a bad protoss micro vs bad terran micro game, P wins big. Even in a pretty good micro battle, a P a move can win. But when T micros perfectly (Taeja, Puma, MKP) I just can't watch without being frustrated.


Terrans can micro as perfectly as they want, if you micro your HT's (= keep them in the back of your army, spreaded out), then there is no micro that can save the terran imo.



The fact, is T's might be better at micro than P in general. Here's what frustrates me about HT vs Ghost. 1) Because of the compositions, Terran can build more ghosts than Toss can build HT (because of toss gas requirements, and the fact that HT have 0 dps). Also, 2) while T usually has to micro more, they can clump up their ghosts and just snipe and emp and bully Protoss. And finally, 3) feedbacks almost never kill ghosts because of their HP!

Again, no balance whine by me. I appreciate the discussion without flaming me.
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3399 Posts
August 02 2012 20:59 GMT
#3810
On August 03 2012 05:57 obesemk wrote:
Why the hell doesnt sase just make 3+ observers to have with his army? This is just silly. Losing because of no observers.

He lost more due to poor storms.
But he should get more after he lost the first battle and seen that Puma will snipe them.
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
August 02 2012 20:59 GMT
#3811
On August 03 2012 05:58 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 05:52 eviltomahawk wrote:
On August 03 2012 05:50 MCDayC wrote:
On August 03 2012 05:49 HaXXspetten wrote:
On August 03 2012 05:48 Kevan wrote:
On August 03 2012 05:47 Hassybaby wrote:
On August 03 2012 05:45 HaXXspetten wrote:
On August 03 2012 05:45 MCDayC wrote:
On August 03 2012 05:44 HaXXspetten wrote:
On August 03 2012 05:43 -_- wrote:
Puma, like Taeja frustrates me as a Protoss player with his precise Viking and Ghost control. When you control those two units perfectly as a Terran, if Protoss doesn't counter with equal Micro, he'll end up with no energy Templar and a bunch of dead colossus before the battle even starts.

Cheese him out Sase!

tl;dr
if the terran outplays the protoss he wins

That always frustrates me yeah.

well...

that was a good debate


We're not quite at the potato salad/sex coma stage yet.

Soon thought!

You forgot the necrophilia. Damn discriminating.

I'm feeling targeted

Because you have sex with dead people, or because you are a dead person?

Just joking. I'm sure you are a very cool and handsome person IRL.

are you flirting with me?

I don't think he is your type, he is alive.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
August 02 2012 20:59 GMT
#3812
nooooooooooooooooooo sase

such a wasted opprutunity not to kill him with a 2 base colossus push
there was no way puma could have held that
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
synaptik
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada644 Posts
August 02 2012 21:00 GMT
#3813
i cant get over that laugh of hers. shes given me so much inspiration

see you guys, gonna go squat hard
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
August 02 2012 21:00 GMT
#3814
Fantastic play by PuMa.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
August 02 2012 21:00 GMT
#3815
All Koreans through to the next round.
starception
Profile Joined August 2012
205 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 21:01:34
August 02 2012 21:00 GMT
#3816
EG TOP 3!!!!

1. Suppy
2. Idra
3. Puma
4. Demuslim

edit: forgot about demu
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
August 02 2012 21:00 GMT
#3817
omg that was harsh, but funny.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27329 Posts
August 02 2012 21:00 GMT
#3818
On August 03 2012 05:58 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 05:57 VanGooL wrote:
And ppl say p is favored lategame vs t ...

Yea I'm seeing more and more Terran's just crap all over Protoss lategame recently.

I'm only really seeing the cream of the Terran crop doing that, Taeja, MKP and the likes. I mean you'd expect the very best TvP Terrans to do well regardless of the state of the matchup. I'm a Protoss player btw, in fact I quite like how the matchup is progressing of late, Terrans are stepping it up
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
August 02 2012 21:00 GMT
#3819
Wow 2GD burn
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
August 02 2012 21:00 GMT
#3820
On August 03 2012 05:58 MangoMountain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 05:57 obesemk wrote:
Why the hell doesnt sase just make 3+ observers to have with his army? This is just silly. Losing because of no observers.

Because he wants colossus too, not just observers


he was making observers constantly, and they were all dying constantly.
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