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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
July 27 2012 11:13 GMT
#2541
On July 27 2012 20:10 Solo Terran wrote:
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On July 27 2012 20:09 Big J wrote:
You don't get good finals because of MUs, you get good finals because of great players.
False. TvZ finals is always amazing.


FD vs. Rainbow would have been pretty bad and one-sided had it not been for the whole "The one Zerg" storyline. Nestea vs. MKP also wasn't really that great, just Nestea either holding or dying to 2rax SCV all-ins for about half the games.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
July 27 2012 11:13 GMT
#2542
On July 27 2012 20:09 AxiR wrote:
Well, PvP CAN be epic.

sometimes


What do we say to the god of death?
Revolutionist fan
ElephantBaby
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1365 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-27 11:13:31
July 27 2012 11:13 GMT
#2543
On July 27 2012 20:10 Sakray wrote:
Seriously Seed is like "I'm too bad at macro so I'll just try to win with build orders and not skill", thats fucking stupid I hate that play


MC is like "I'm too lazy to prepare strategy so I'll just do most common build to show my weakness and lose", that's fucking stupid also.
CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
July 27 2012 11:13 GMT
#2544
On July 27 2012 20:11 MrSexington wrote:
So... for the people who play Protoss.

1/3 of the games you play on ladder are like this?

Ouch.


nah more like 1/2
Team SCV Life #1
sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
July 27 2012 11:13 GMT
#2545
On July 27 2012 20:11 habeck wrote:
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On July 27 2012 20:09 TemplarCo. wrote:
If Seed wins it's going to be somewhat more unexpected than when Jjakji won GSL imo.


Maybe it was unexpected when it was Ro32 or Ro 16, but i think that before finals many people expected and are expecting seed to win this GSL...


GOGOG

umm didnt mc get like 70%?
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
July 27 2012 11:13 GMT
#2546
On July 27 2012 20:10 Sakray wrote:
Seriously Seed is like "I'm too bad at macro so I'll just try to win with build orders and not skill", thats fucking stupid I hate that play

Ahaha. He played macro games last season, got criticized for being boring. This season he even said in an interview he'd do more two base timings, gets criticized for that. How silly.

Besides, it's PvP. More often than not they're bo wins/1-2 base timings.
Long live the King of Wings
noddy
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom927 Posts
July 27 2012 11:13 GMT
#2547
On July 27 2012 20:09 asiamystic wrote:
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On July 27 2012 20:08 Grani wrote:
And here we have the bad GSL finals again...


This is amazing finals. STFU


No, it's not.
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
July 27 2012 11:13 GMT
#2548
If you could get comebacks like Mvp vs Squirtle and DRG vs MMA in PvP it wouldn't be the worst matchup in the game.

But... well y'know... it is.
IMMvp|fOrGG|IMNesTea|oGsMC|Liquid`Hero|DongRaeGu|Slayers_MMA|Liquid`TLO|MarineKingPrime|IMSeed
BlindKill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia1508 Posts
July 27 2012 11:13 GMT
#2549
On July 27 2012 20:11 Drazerk wrote:
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On July 27 2012 20:10 Pandemona wrote:
On July 27 2012 20:09 Yaki wrote:
LOL @ the guy with the Chelsea jersey


NO
You never LOL at Chelsea shirt, you /cheer /hug and /rejoice at it!


Wait Chelsea exist for something other than laughing at?

ouch. your just mad your team cant afford to buy everyone
“Life is a grindstone, and whether it grinds a man down or polishes him up depends on the stuff he's made of.”
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 27 2012 11:13 GMT
#2550
On July 27 2012 20:12 Eufouria wrote:
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On July 27 2012 20:10 Dfgj wrote:
On July 27 2012 20:09 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 27 2012 20:08 Exarl25 wrote:
On July 27 2012 20:07 Vapaach wrote:
I don't understand MC's decision making there. How are you supposed to hold anything with zealot stalker only?


MC is just playing inexplicably awful. Says PvP isn't a coin flip then proceeds to coin flip in every single fucking game. Seed attacks and MC just dies, it's embarrassing.



Because proxy robo four gate and blink stalker all-in are not coinflips as well.

Blink stalkers are not a coinflip whatsoever.

They lose pretty bad to DTs. Robo builds are the safest PvP builds because you can generally hold every form of tech as long as you scout it and react well.


But doesn't a Stalker on your ramp deny any type of scouting?
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
July 27 2012 11:13 GMT
#2551
On July 27 2012 20:12 Apolo wrote:
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On July 27 2012 20:09 Big J wrote:
Lol, @ all the whining about PvP here.

PvP is fine, Seed is just 2classes above MC today. You don't get good finals because of MUs, you get good finals because of great players.
Remember Squirtle vs MVP? If MVP wins Cloud Kingdom (which was a close game) it's 4-0. If MVP attacks at the right time with BCs or gets that EMP on the Mothership, it's 4-1.
Well, Squirtle got outplayed in quite a bunch of games but came back.

MC got outplayed in quite a bunch of games. Let's see if he comes back or if it simply isn't his day.


No, PvP is not fine. If things like this can happen vs a guy who has 80% win rate in PvP, then it's not fine. Very bad spectator wise. People talk that Tribes:Ascend isn't good to watch, well this isn't either. It's a failure from Blizzard.


MC's strategies are very, very bad. His 80% ratio is from a time when PvP was exactly what Seed is doing, 1base vs 1base - and he's forgotten how to play like that.
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
July 27 2012 11:13 GMT
#2552
On July 27 2012 20:12 Eufouria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2012 20:10 Dfgj wrote:
On July 27 2012 20:09 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 27 2012 20:08 Exarl25 wrote:
On July 27 2012 20:07 Vapaach wrote:
I don't understand MC's decision making there. How are you supposed to hold anything with zealot stalker only?


MC is just playing inexplicably awful. Says PvP isn't a coin flip then proceeds to coin flip in every single fucking game. Seed attacks and MC just dies, it's embarrassing.



Because proxy robo four gate and blink stalker all-in are not coinflips as well.

Blink stalkers are not a coinflip whatsoever.

They lose pretty bad to DTs. Robo builds are the safest PvP builds because you can generally hold every form of tech as long as you scout it and react well.


He didn't have to worry about DTs. He stole the gas and got a ton of scouting information. Seed was playing safe, MC is just playing like trash.
Grampz
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2147 Posts
July 27 2012 11:13 GMT
#2553
byun vs drg would have been so much better T_T
asiamystic
Profile Joined April 2011
23 Posts
July 27 2012 11:13 GMT
#2554
On July 27 2012 20:12 liberate71 wrote:
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On July 27 2012 20:10 Amui wrote:
Wow that studio is packed, and the beach is packed. Too bad the finals suck so far =/. Needs like 1-2 BIG colossus macro games going to MC to even make it interesting


How does a bunch of a-moving lazerbeams appeal to you more than smartly played 1 bases? you have more time to eat during the game? :|


People just don;t understand skill, only fanboy cravings.
ThisIsRaichu
Profile Joined May 2012
66 Posts
July 27 2012 11:13 GMT
#2555
Beautifull finals. I'm so happy we will finally see a protoss GSL winner.
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
July 27 2012 11:13 GMT
#2556
MC, make this finals epic now with a sick come back plz
MangoMountain
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2044 Posts
July 27 2012 11:13 GMT
#2557
On July 27 2012 20:12 Poisonblack wrote:
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On July 27 2012 20:09 Sherlock-Canada wrote:
I wonder if MC is overextending himself these days. He seems to be everywhere and he hasn't won a lot of tournaments recently. He cruised past DRG but DRG didn't look like DRG...

welcome to sc2 randomness, where it already got to the point where there simply is NO dominating player. Anyone can beat anyone on any given day

MC is just playing like shit
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
July 27 2012 11:13 GMT
#2558
Lots of Chelsea BM here
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
July 27 2012 11:13 GMT
#2559
the only way this can become a good finals is if MC wins 3 games in a row now...
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
July 27 2012 11:13 GMT
#2560
On July 27 2012 20:12 MonDeW wrote:
Imagine how many fans seed is going to lose if he 4-0's MC. He promised fun games.


The fact that people still buy this is fucking hilarious. They aren't there to produce "fun games". They want to win 60 k and the title of Code S champion.
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