[WCS] South Korea Preliminaries Day 2 - Page 97

On July 24 2012 00:47 lichter wrote:
12 Zerg
11 Protoss
9 Terran

Not a bad racial distribution (closest to perfect is 11-11-10), just one off from ideal.

On July 24 2012 00:53 sam05396 wrote:

ignores that all the best protoss's were seeded in through top 10, also i think leenock and drg were in the top ten while all the best terrans were competing in the qualifier except for mvp

On July 24 2012 00:11 opterown wrote:


apparently mkp got one-base bane-busted by horror zzz

On July 24 2012 00:53 sam05396 wrote:

ignores that all the best protoss's were seeded in through top 10, also i think leenock and drg were in the top ten while all the best terrans were competing in the qualifier except for mvp

On July 24 2012 00:57 croqdot wrote:
Is there any place with VODs of today's/yesterday's games?

On July 24 2012 01:24 Beta2k wrote:
so how many/which non-kespa players did qualify? only reality?

On July 24 2012 00:39 FairForever wrote:


LOL

Maybe your sense of how "easy" lategame ZvT is is incorrect, or you're saying that you're much smarter than Top GSL Zergs when it comes to this MU?

EDIT: Also your sense of "better" is probably off too. No wonder you think ZvT is super imbalanced - you automatically assume MVP and MKP are better than all Zerg players (and that goes down the Terran and Zerg ranks too), so when they lose, it must be imbalance.

On July 24 2012 01:53 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Holy shit, I just looked at the bracket. Reality 2-0'd shine and symbol? Dafuq?

On July 24 2012 01:58 lichter wrote:


Dunno about Shine, but Symbol reportedly hit hard by Seed Curse and played terrible (was driving and just reading the LR)

On July 24 2012 02:03 Necro)Phagist( wrote:

Hmm I see, interesting... Still kind of crazy lol was not expecting to wake up and see Reality advancing o.O

I really don't feel like digging through the LR can anyone sum up Stork's games? I see he won a couple rounds, how was his play?

On July 24 2012 02:09 RezChi wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/user/GOMTVNET/videos has this RO8 games

On July 24 2012 01:46 noddy wrote:


I don't think MKP and MVP are better than every Zerg player? I know MarineKing is a lot better than Horror though, lol

On July 24 2012 02:47 FairForever wrote:


Do you also attribute MKP's 0-2 loss to ByuL as imbalance? ByuL 6pooled game 1 and 7pooled game 2 winning both.

Point is, MKP's losing to early all-ins isn't due to the fact that Terran is underpowered vs Zerg... (whether it is or not is a different story, although I believe it isn't), it's due to the fact that MKP uses almost the exact same build every single game, and doesn't scout, in order to gain an economic advantage. You can be 100% certain that you are not going to get proxy rax'd by MKP, nor will you be facing reactor hellion build, limiting the options. And because MKP often doesn't scout, you can take a risk and simply bane bust, because he hasn't prepared for such a build.

Same thing that was done to Flash yesterday in the WCS qualifiers, if you're not able to mix it up people will take advantage of it.

It's not like Horror beat MKP in a macro game (by the way, upsets do happen) - Horror used a build that was much more likely to succeed against MKP than against the average Terran player.

EDIT: Your logic would also suggest TvZ is imbalanced in T's favour since a guy who just started playing (Reality) beat Symbol. Not saying that's true (it isn't), but that's your "sound" logic.