On July 21 2012 11:26 SayGen wrote: Taeja may be T only real hope.
aLive is pretty good too. Top's play seems to be improving a lot lately. aLive definitely a bigger favorite of the two but he could easily go as far as TaeJa
On July 21 2012 11:24 Aquila- wrote: Funny how Ryung wins every battle but can't punish Alicia because of warpins, but if he loses a single battle it's intsta gg...
Barely winning battle after battle doesn't mean shit in TvP. He needed to win one battle convincingly, so he could at least snipe a nexus or something.
On July 21 2012 11:20 VPCursed wrote: god i hate protoss
Alicia shut down the Terran Macro.
Ryung never made use of his 4th base and the 5th mined very little and was completely shut down with no way of salvaging the OC.
Ryung also forgot +3 armor for the longest time. so while he sniped the +2 attack forge and had an advantage for a while, by not getting +3 armor Alicia was able to get +3 attack before +3 armor was done for the Terran.
Coupled with the better economy and even trades Alicia took a slow but guaranteed advantage and win.
Don't come balance whining in here when the Terran made some big mistakes and essentially threw the game.
Ryung didn't really make big mistakes, lacking +3 armor didn't have a great impact, he would lose anyway after getting such weak mining for so long, Ryung didn't expand everywhere because that's just free food for late game warp-ins, the late game is free for protoss to harass and terran is forced to ball up, drops are irrelevant because of massive warp-ins and I think Ryung didn't saturate the 4th because it's very vulnerable to high ground storms, so yeah, not many mistakes at all.
The funny part about ryung vs alicia was game1, alicia 1A'd his army, with the zealots behind the stalkers/sentries, while ryung had a huge arc; still roflstomped ryung rofl.
On July 21 2012 11:28 sibs wrote: The funny part about ryung vs alicia was game1, alicia 1A'd his army, with the zealots behind the stalkers/sentries, while ryung had a huge arc; still roflstomped ryung rofl.
Ryung had 6 vikings with +1 attack vs 4 +3 armor colossi. he also ate a bunch of storms because he had no ghosts. that wasnt a balance issue. ryung had a worse unit comp
On July 21 2012 11:28 sibs wrote: The funny part about ryung vs alicia was game1, alicia 1A'd his army, with the zealots behind the stalkers/sentries, while ryung had a huge arc; still roflstomped ryung rofl.
alicia's micro was really bad but you can't say he 1a
On July 21 2012 11:20 VPCursed wrote: god i hate protoss
Alicia shut down the Terran Macro.
Ryung never made use of his 4th base and the 5th mined very little and was completely shut down with no way of salvaging the OC.
Ryung also forgot +3 armor for the longest time. so while he sniped the +2 attack forge and had an advantage for a while, by not getting +3 armor Alicia was able to get +3 attack before +3 armor was done for the Terran.
Coupled with the better economy and even trades Alicia took a slow but guaranteed advantage and win.
Don't come balance whining in here when the Terran made some big mistakes and essentially threw the game.
He didn't forget it, he focused on unit production instead. The +3 armor won't get you that far in the late game also.
Considering that Terran could have had +3 armor before Protoss had +3 attack I dont know how that can be unimportant in late game. It makes a big difference against zealots and collossus which both do 2 attacks.
He traded evenly at an upgrade disadvantage and econ disadvantage through most of the game.
If the econ was there and the upgrades were even he could have easily beat Alicia. Even trades at disadvantage means that on even footing those trades would have been less even and more in favour of terran.
He traded evenly when he was much higher army supply. Also i highly doubt that +1 armor would mean he would win. The engagements he also had were great for him, but still traded evenly.
On July 21 2012 11:23 Tobblish wrote: It's to bad that after the 25min marker PvT gets such a cluster fuck. A great game like this one could have gone on much longer if... oh well fuck it. If the game was well balanced at the late game.
Aesthetically TvP will always be crap because Medivacs and Vikings block everything.
Although Protoss late game advantage is obvious but credit to Alicia for the harrass he did on Ryung's 4th base. Those Stalkers placement is just so cool
p/s: terran should start bunker defend their expansions just like T v Z
I think Taeja will be the only Terran to get far in this tournament. I hope a terran wins this, or atleast gets into the final. I am tired of all the PvZ's.