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FataLe
New Zealand4520 Posts
On July 19 2012 21:32 jkang wrote: Don't think so. But going through DRG makes it one of the harder ones. Group of Death? Ro8? mm. there's an argument but I'm not aware of the history. | ||
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mycro
Sweden1579 Posts
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ShotgunMike
Sweden241 Posts
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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On July 19 2012 21:32 SeaSwift wrote: No it fucking doesn't. It represents what is most entertaining to the sample of people who took that poll. It's like saying that Tony Blair was elected with a landslide victory, therefore he is factually a really good Prime Minister. You can't measure what is factually entertaining, it is subjective. It doesn't even represent what is most entertaining - it simply represents that the selection of people who chose to took the poll (I didn't) were excited about a PvP matchup. TBH any matchup (except maybe ZvZ right now, due to the supposed "imbalances" of Zerg) would have a pretty high positive score on that poll. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
beat sniper beat ganzi beat mkp beat squirtle beat taeja beat drg started off pretty meh, escalted quickly, pretty good path there have been harder roads for sure | ||
Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
On July 19 2012 21:33 ShotgunMike wrote: Will the Code S finals be shown on the free low quality stream? Or is it only available for subscribers? Nop there always is a low qual stream for every code s game. Only some code a games are only for subscribers. | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4520 Posts
On July 19 2012 21:32 Heavenlee wrote: His Ro32 wasn't special (Ganzi and Sniper I think? Or some other semi-random zerg) but he took out Squirtle, MKP, Taeja, and DRG. Yea I'm wondering if that justifies his Ro32 though, it's a toss up. would like a comparison. | ||
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Talack
Canada2742 Posts
On July 19 2012 21:31 Havik_ wrote: The people saying a PvP final would be bad are either haters or just haven't watched the matchup at all. There are viable fast expand builds now, Phoenix builds, Blink, builds, Immortal builds. Its the only Protoss match up where the whole tech tree is viable at any given time. The finals will be just as good as the last few finals as long as all the games aren't turtle up to max Colossus battles. Or... People have seen it, they've watched it and understand it....And still find the matchup incredibly boring :S | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On July 19 2012 21:32 NHY wrote: I think DRG watched HSC & NASL, and though MC would play similarly. But since MC was hiding his build, he was caught off guard. MC wasn't hiding any build. MC played better.DRG played really subpar compare to his standard play today.Simple | ||
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ShotgunMike
Sweden241 Posts
On July 19 2012 21:33 Teoita wrote: Nop there always is a low qual stream for every code s game. Only some code a games are only for subscribers. Ok, excellent! Thanks! | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On July 19 2012 21:30 4ZakeN87 wrote: Well I do not agree with that, it is only true in a world completely dominated by Koreans which is turning out to be less and less true in 2012. GSL is the biggest tournament and it matters a lot, but to say it it the only tournament that matters in the debate of who is the best SC2 player is Korean biased. Some people might simply do not want to live in Korea for extend periods and practice for GSL. The fact that you have to live in Korea in order to compete in GSL will ensure that GSL always will be dominated by Koreans. Thus will this logic ensure that Koreans by definition always will be dominating each race. With more and more Koreans flying out to tournaments all over the globe, with the amount of international tournaments and with smaller gap between foreign and Korean this point of view is becoming increasingly obsolete. I will also add that KESPA tournaments will also lessen the importance of GSL, because at the very least they will compete with GSL in prestige, popularity and probably prize money. | ||
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Huragius
Lithuania1506 Posts
On July 19 2012 21:28 MajorityofOne wrote: A collection of opinions is no more a fact than a single opinion Really ? Entertainment is a subjective thing. In order to find the most entertaining match-up (a match-up which is liked by the most of the sc2 community) you need a high sample size. In this case, one opinion is almost worthless, however 50000 opinions is not. | ||
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hai2u
688 Posts
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jkang
United States404 Posts
On July 19 2012 21:32 FataLe wrote: Group of Death? Ro8? mm. there's an argument but I'm not aware of the history. Forgot about the Group of Death, but I think Mvp's path was harder in his 3rd championship, except maybe the finals itself (but we are talking about the path to the finals here). I'm saying this even as a huge MC fan. | ||
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Havik_
United States5585 Posts
On July 19 2012 21:30 4ZakeN87 wrote: Well I do not agree with that, it is only true in a world completely dominated by Koreans which is turning out to be less and less true in 2012. GSL is the biggest tournament and it matters a lot, but to say it it the only tournament that matters in the debate of who is the best SC2 player is Korean biased. Some people might simply do not want to live in Korea for extend periods and practice for GSL. The fact that you have to live in Korea in order to compete in GSL will ensure that GSL always will be dominated by Koreans. Thus will this logic ensure that Koreans by definition always will be dominating each race. With more and more Koreans flying out to tournaments all over the globe, with the amount of international tournaments and with smaller gap between foreign and Korean this point of view is becoming increasingly obsolete. True, very, very true, I think the format has something to do with it also. Having time to prepare for the matches leads to better games. On July 19 2012 21:30 FataLe wrote: Can anyone give me an idea if MC's current path to the finals has been the hardest ever? It could be. Although his Ro32 group was pretty easy IIRC. | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On July 19 2012 21:29 Teoita wrote: Game 1: suicided an army trying to trade with mc's, doesn't target colossi properly. +1 corruptors end up being a huge waste of money Game 2: expands too slowly, donates roaches for free while MC takes no damage. Game 3: doesn't macro well enough to hold mc's 2base timing Happy now? Game 1: Agreed. He really fucked up with the corruptors Game 2: He may have expanded slowly, but there is merit to MC's defense. He barely lost any units, I think he lost 2 units while defending, 2 fucking units. Game 3: He was macroing fine, and he defended the main correctly, the mistake was actually letting MC rape the undefended third. The WP play was actually done, MC just seemed to casually notice that the 3rd wasn't defended at all and decided to end the game. | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4520 Posts
On July 19 2012 21:33 opterown wrote: lose to ganzi beat sniper beat ganzi beat mkp beat squirtle beat taeja beat drg started off pretty meh, escalted quickly, pretty good path there have been harder roads for sure any idea of who? sorry my history is weak. i know all the champs just can't remember any incredible runs aside from face rolls (NesTea, Squirtle) | ||
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NightOfTheDead
Lithuania1711 Posts
On July 19 2012 21:33 opterown wrote: lose to ganzi beat sniper beat ganzi beat mkp beat squirtle beat taeja beat drg started off pretty meh, escalted quickly, pretty good path there have been harder roads for sure Beat finalist, beat champion, and beat previous champion? How can there be a harder road? | ||
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sparklyresidue
United States5523 Posts
On July 19 2012 21:34 Talack wrote: Or... People have seen it, they've watched it and understand it....And still find the matchup incredibly boring :S This is how I feel... I think mirror matches tend to be a bit boring in a long series (i.e., a BO7 finals) and PvP is the worst of the three (though personally I have enjoyed it from time to time). | ||
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Ethi
Germany275 Posts
On July 19 2012 21:28 ShampooSuicide wrote: Maybe it is a practice partner match up problem. MVP has some protoss but comparing them to the ST protoss or MC they fall way behind. He can maybe hold all pushes from other protoss but MC is a different beast with his control. Even so though today was very lack luster play from DRG. So happy about MC making it to the finals. MC even has no teammates to practise with. But MC said a while ago that he practises a lot with Symbol. | ||
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