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dakalro
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania525 Posts
July 19 2012 11:58 GMT
#2741
On July 19 2012 20:52 Poisonblack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:47 pdd wrote:
MC loses to Stephano and Nerchio beats DRG like it's EZPZ. How?


either
nerchio and stephano are better than drg
drg playing bad
mc not all-inning every game (playing macro/safe)
sc2 being random at the top skill level

choose your pick :p


MC said right after the games that he misread Nerchio. And I think he does what he should have done with Nerchio today. Bait zerg to be aggressive with a fast 3rd and only go out after you wear down larva count. I wonder what he'd do if zerg would just play passive-ish when seeing P 3rd, get a 4th and beacon/stargates?
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
July 19 2012 11:59 GMT
#2742
DRG would crush Stephano in ZvZ.
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
July 19 2012 11:59 GMT
#2743
Stephano might be the best in the world, but he has to prove it in Korea. I think he would acknowledge that much.
That said, I do think his ZvP is the best already, I doubt that's very controversial after what he did at the NASL
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 12:00:11
July 19 2012 11:59 GMT
#2744
On July 19 2012 20:57 snafoo wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


fixed

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
@followMVT
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
July 19 2012 11:59 GMT
#2745
On July 19 2012 20:58 NightOfTheDead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:56 Darkthorn wrote:
If MC wins vs DRG, the finals will probably be won by Seed because IM won't help MC at all even though they have a partnership.


I cant remember when MC lost a PvP in important match.


I have seen Seed play PvP and it's really good, but so is MC. I think it can go either way, but I expect to see hallucinations! :D
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
July 19 2012 11:59 GMT
#2746
On July 19 2012 20:57 lichter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:54 Havik_ wrote:
Stephano ZvP?? Better than DRG right now.


Could Stephano possibly be the next Zerg bonjwa?! o.O

I think so guys


KT.HITMAN 2012

Edit: Only people who paid attention to Kespa OSL Quals will get this


Sir, it's KT.HitmaN

lol jk it's unfortunate he got eliminated in the finals
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 19 2012 11:59 GMT
#2747
On July 19 2012 20:58 Juliette wrote:
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On July 19 2012 20:57 BlindKill wrote:
MC definitely back on form this year

+ Show Spoiler +
http://images.mrlazyinc.com/games/memes/homestory_cup_iv_ogs_mc_air_hump.gif


gonna unspoiler that for you - i feel its necessary to the thread

[image loading]

pretty much sums up this series so far
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
July 19 2012 11:59 GMT
#2748
On July 19 2012 20:55 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:51 fcb10 wrote:
omg... is stephano.. the best player in the world?


No

You are not the best because you beat the best. A no-name who beasts flash isn't the best. Browns are not the best because they beat Giants and Denmark is not the best soccer team in the world because they beat Spain. Determining who is the best is all about consistency. Stephano has proven he is currently the best Z outside Korea imo. Nothing more than that.


Agreed. This community is so fickle. Even if someone is 70% favored to win, he can even get 3-0'd...it's just the way it works, no one is guaranteed a victory just by being the better player in any sport. There is always a factor of mind games, luck, getting hardcountered, one of the people having a bad day, etc. That's why it gets somewhat frustrating to hear someone declare a player the best in the world. MC v Stephano could have been a 4-2 the other way around if MC had a slightly better composition in game 1 versus the mass ling remax, and if he hadn't been caught in a bad position after being up 20 workers in the game on Ohana, yet people are saying MC got "crushed" in that series as if Stephano just completely outclassed him in every way.
Aeceus
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1278 Posts
July 19 2012 11:59 GMT
#2749
On July 19 2012 20:59 tomatriedes wrote:
DRG would crush Stephano in ZvZ.


They played once and DRG lost
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 19 2012 11:59 GMT
#2750
On July 19 2012 20:58 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:57 Mozdk wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:54 Havik_ wrote:
Stephano ZvP?? Better than DRG right now.


Could Stephano possibly be the next Zerg bonjwa?! o.O

I think so guys



OMFG

First he actually has to dominate with 80%+ winrate for 2+ years... in Korea. So what does he need. Well he needs better winrate... He needs it IN KOREA... and he needs, oh that's right 2 years... Meaning 0% Bonjwa. Jeez such a comment is stupid.

Are you Romanian?


No why. You can look up to see where I am from.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 19 2012 11:59 GMT
#2751
On July 19 2012 20:58 Aerisky wrote:
I'm still slightly irked they didn't seem to finish the montage. It just seemed like they described the pause and him slumping again, show a quote of his during the slump, and then it just...ends...

It transitions in him going 3-0 against DRG...
I had a good night of sleep.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 12:01:11
July 19 2012 12:00 GMT
#2752
On July 19 2012 20:56 m0ck wrote:
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On July 19 2012 20:54 MorroW wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:51 Jono7272 wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:49 MorroW wrote:
what the hell is going on ://////// predicted drg to faceroll him

Morrow pls

DRG playing pretty poorly today

hes actually playing incredibly good in my opinion. just very text book zerg with sicker macro than any other zerg.

to be honest i think ohana is just bad for zerg frontal attacks its better to research drop tech and drop toss main base but what do i know drg know his shit

But he's insisting on doing what looks like half-heated attacks (with tech behind) that ends up simply donating units. In game one he could have gone to 90 drones and 4-5 bases but instead he built corrupters off of 65 drones and made something close to an all-in attack

but thats how the medi game looks for text book zvp play. make units for defensive purposes in case toss goes 2base or cancels his 3rd etc and if he doesnt attack trade your units with toss while trading while not overcommiting to attacking.

hes playing exactly like people say zergs should play o,o cant just make pure drones in that period then the obs sees that and toss cancels nexus and rolls over greedy zerg

this might be crazy talk but perhaps mc showed bad pvz in NASL on purpose knowing drg would feel overconfident and design strats around those games
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
July 19 2012 12:00 GMT
#2753
On July 19 2012 20:58 Embir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:49 Derez wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:48 Kpaxlol wrote:
So, really. Stephano best ZvP atm ?

You can't be best anything in SC2 without playing the GSL.


I say bullshit.

There is a lot of big tournaments in the world ATM and this is a beauty of SC2. Who says you need to win GSL to be relevant? Stephano is the best proof of this.

It is actually really uncomfortable for foreigners to start in GSL, add to this cultural and language barriers and I would say there is nothing wrong for them to stay in Europe and play in local tournaments.

For me GSL is just another good, big tournament next to MLG and Dreamhack - and results from these two are for me as important as for GSL.

Lol comparing MLG and DH to Code S in terms of difficulty is laughable.

I love crazymoving
Sitinte
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States499 Posts
July 19 2012 12:00 GMT
#2754
On July 19 2012 20:58 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:57 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:55 Mozdk wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:51 fcb10 wrote:
omg... is stephano.. the best player in the world?


No

You are not the best because you beat the best. A no-name who beasts flash isn't the best. Browns are not the best because they beat Giants and Denmark is not the best soccer team in the world because they beat Spain. Determining who is the best is all about consistency. Stephano has proven he is currently the best Z outside Korea imo. Nothing more than that.


Maybe you can say Stephano is the best (or among the best) when it comes to tournaments and matches where you can't prepare your opponent one week in advance...

Still, he's not proven what he's made of when competing against an opponent who studied his style for one week...

(The Blizzcup wasn't enough, though he performed well despite his 3 place finish).


Stephano has only won one premier tournament this year, he's only getting all this hype because it was the most recent one.

Let's not forget he also only had to play his best match up in PvZ to win the tournament.



Exactly... I don't remember his ZvZ, and the only time I got to see his ZvT this year... MMA gently caressed him in the rear.
Purple Haze
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom200 Posts
July 19 2012 12:00 GMT
#2755
On July 19 2012 20:55 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:51 fcb10 wrote:
omg... is stephano.. the best player in the world?


No

You are not the best because you beat the best. A no-name who beasts flash isn't the best. Browns are not the best because they beat Giants and Denmark is not the best soccer team in the world because they beat Spain. Determining who is the best is all about consistency. Stephano has proven he is currently the best Z outside Korea imo. Nothing more than that.


IMO he's proved he's the best player outside Korea, and a top 5 Zerg in the world. Probably top 4 actually, along with DRG, NesTea and Symbol. To climb any higher up that list will either require total domination of everything outside Korea, or GSL results.
ThePlayer33
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia2378 Posts
July 19 2012 12:00 GMT
#2756
THE LAST ZERG HOPE
| Idra | YuGiOh | Leenock | Coca |
Cabinet Sanchez
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia1097 Posts
July 19 2012 12:00 GMT
#2757
On July 19 2012 20:56 KiNGxXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:54 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:51 Kommander wrote:
MC HYPE VIDEO OH YEAHHHHHHHHHHHH


Oh great, I was alt tabbed - fuckit! That's what you get for watching on the TV in the lounge instead of on the PC with 3 monitors.
They don't put the hype videos on the VOD do they?

[image loading]


Thanks! where would protoss fans be without our president?
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
July 19 2012 12:00 GMT
#2758
On July 19 2012 20:59 Heavenlee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:55 Mozdk wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:51 fcb10 wrote:
omg... is stephano.. the best player in the world?


No

You are not the best because you beat the best. A no-name who beasts flash isn't the best. Browns are not the best because they beat Giants and Denmark is not the best soccer team in the world because they beat Spain. Determining who is the best is all about consistency. Stephano has proven he is currently the best Z outside Korea imo. Nothing more than that.


Agreed. This community is so fickle. Even if someone is 70% favored to win, he can even get 3-0'd...it's just the way it works, no one is guaranteed a victory just by being the better player in any sport. There is always a factor of mind games, luck, getting hardcountered, one of the people having a bad day, etc. That's why it gets somewhat frustrating to hear someone declare a player the best in the world. MC v Stephano could have been a 4-2 the other way around if MC had a slightly better composition in game 1 versus the mass ling remax, and if he hadn't been caught in a bad position after being up 20 workers in the game on Ohana, yet people are saying MC got "crushed" in that series as if Stephano just completely outclassed him in every way.


Fantasy 3-0ing Flash.
Rerember anyone???
Play your best
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
July 19 2012 12:00 GMT
#2759
On July 19 2012 20:59 Gladiator333 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:58 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:56 Darkthorn wrote:
If MC wins vs DRG, the finals will probably be won by Seed because IM won't help MC at all even though they have a partnership.


I cant remember when MC lost a PvP in important match.


I have seen Seed play PvP and it's really good, but so is MC. I think it can go either way, but I expect to see hallucinations! :D


MC beat Seed convincingly in Up/Downs, but it was a Bo1 on Dual Sight and MC made a hidden Nexus.
Sherlock-Canada
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada269 Posts
July 19 2012 12:00 GMT
#2760
I think it would be fair to say Stephano probably has the best PvZ in the world. Hard to say how good he is since the mo'fo' needs to get into the GSL ASAP.
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