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On July 19 2012 20:57 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 20:55 Mozdk wrote:On July 19 2012 20:51 fcb10 wrote:
omg... is stephano.. the best player in the world? No You are not the best because you beat the best. A no-name who beasts flash isn't the best. Browns are not the best because they beat Giants and Denmark is not the best soccer team in the world because they beat Spain. Determining who is the best is all about consistency. Stephano has proven he is currently the best Z outside Korea imo. Nothing more than that. Maybe you can say Stephano is the best (or among the best) when it comes to tournaments and matches where you can't prepare your opponent one week in advance... Still, he's not proven what he's made of when competing against an opponent who studied his style for one week... (The Blizzcup wasn't enough, though he performed well despite his 3 place finish).
He is not even the best at any kind of tournament. He is just a great player with exceptional ZvP. Whether it's GSL or "A tournament you can't prepare" there's people who achieved more than him.
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On July 19 2012 20:59 Mozdk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 20:58 Fusilero wrote:On July 19 2012 20:57 Mozdk wrote:On July 19 2012 20:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On July 19 2012 20:54 Havik_ wrote:
Stephano ZvP?? Better than DRG right now. Could Stephano possibly be the next Zerg bonjwa?! o.O I think so guys OMFG First he actually has to dominate with 80%+ winrate for 2+ years... in Korea. So what does he need. Well he needs better winrate... He needs it IN KOREA... and he needs, oh that's right 2 years... Meaning 0% Bonjwa. Jeez such a comment is stupid. Are you Romanian? No why. You can look up to see where I am from.
Danish by origin, Romanian by heart
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osl spoilers please fakedeath
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On July 19 2012 20:59 Aeceus wrote:They played once and DRG lost
He got lucky then. 
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On July 19 2012 20:57 Mozdk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 20:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On July 19 2012 20:54 Havik_ wrote:
Stephano ZvP?? Better than DRG right now. Could Stephano possibly be the next Zerg bonjwa?! o.O I think so guys OMFG First he actually has to dominate with 80%+ winrate for 2+ years... in Korea. So what does he need. Well he needs better winrate... He needs it IN KOREA... and he needs, oh that's right 2 years... Meaning 0% Bonjwa. Jeez such a comment is stupid.
knew I'd get at least one ;p
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Does DRG look depressed for some reason?
Or soes he look like that every day??
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Amazing.
MC, finish this. >:D HERE WE GOOOO!!
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On July 19 2012 20:58 Embir wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 20:49 Derez wrote:On July 19 2012 20:48 Kpaxlol wrote:
So, really. Stephano best ZvP atm ? You can't be best anything in SC2 without playing the GSL. I say bullshit. There is a lot of big tournaments in the world ATM and this is a beauty of SC2. Who says you need to win GSL to be relevant? Stephano is the best proof of this. It is actually really uncomfortable for foreigners to start in GSL, add to this cultural and language barriers and I would say there is nothing wrong for them to stay in Europe and play in local tournaments. For me GSL is just another good, big tournament next to MLG and Dreamhack - and results from these two are for me as important as for GSL.
There is no tournament as hard as GSL. It is a big difference if you win some foreign tournaments or the GSL. It's a big gap in skill.
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if you want to discuss 'best zerg' topic please go to idra's streamchat, thanks
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On July 19 2012 20:59 Gladiator333 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 20:58 NightOfTheDead wrote:On July 19 2012 20:56 Darkthorn wrote:
If MC wins vs DRG, the finals will probably be won by Seed because IM won't help MC at all even though they have a partnership. I cant remember when MC lost a PvP in important match. I have seen Seed play PvP and it's really good, but so is MC. I think it can go either way, but I expect to see hallucinations! :D
Actually i would as far as to say that MC's best match-up is not PvZ, it is actually PvP. We ll see however, one more win for dat.
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On July 19 2012 20:59 glzElectromaster wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 20:57 lichter wrote:On July 19 2012 20:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On July 19 2012 20:54 Havik_ wrote:
Stephano ZvP?? Better than DRG right now. Could Stephano possibly be the next Zerg bonjwa?! o.O I think so guys KT.HITMAN 2012 Edit: Only people who paid attention to Kespa OSL Quals will get this Sir, it's KT.HitmaN lol jk it's unfortunate he got eliminated in the finals
Need to caps it for emphasis man
EMPHASIS
See? Makes it totally legit
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Saying more preparation will help koreans against Stephano is not true.. Stephano is already the most studied foreigner and all the koreans know his playstyle and they have been trying to figure out ways to beat him for a long time now but what has the result been?
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On July 19 2012 20:57 Mozdk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 20:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On July 19 2012 20:54 Havik_ wrote:
Stephano ZvP?? Better than DRG right now. Could Stephano possibly be the next Zerg bonjwa?! o.O I think so guys OMFG First he actually has to dominate with 80%+ winrate for 2+ years... in Korea. So what does he need. Well he needs better winrate... He needs it IN KOREA... and he needs, oh that's right 2 years... Meaning 0% Bonjwa. Jeez such a comment is stupid.
nnnnneeeooowwwwwwwwww
that was the sound caused by the doppler effect of the ultramassive WOOOOOSH
calling anyone a bonjwa in SC2 is either irony or idiocy, always assume the former
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On July 19 2012 21:00 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 20:59 Heavenlee wrote:On July 19 2012 20:55 Mozdk wrote:On July 19 2012 20:51 fcb10 wrote:
omg... is stephano.. the best player in the world? No You are not the best because you beat the best. A no-name who beasts flash isn't the best. Browns are not the best because they beat Giants and Denmark is not the best soccer team in the world because they beat Spain. Determining who is the best is all about consistency. Stephano has proven he is currently the best Z outside Korea imo. Nothing more than that. Agreed. This community is so fickle. Even if someone is 70% favored to win, he can even get 3-0'd...it's just the way it works, no one is guaranteed a victory just by being the better player in any sport. There is always a factor of mind games, luck, getting hardcountered, one of the people having a bad day, etc. That's why it gets somewhat frustrating to hear someone declare a player the best in the world. MC v Stephano could have been a 4-2 the other way around if MC had a slightly better composition in game 1 versus the mass ling remax, and if he hadn't been caught in a bad position after being up 20 workers in the game on Ohana, yet people are saying MC got "crushed" in that series as if Stephano just completely outclassed him in every way. Fantasy 3-0ing Flash. Rerember anyone???
How far can you be from truth? Flash was having signs of weakness. His achievements in TvT 2 years prior were worth nothing. Capish?
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On July 19 2012 21:01 blacklist_member wrote:
Does DRG look depressed for some reason?
Or soes he look like that every day??
First time seeing him this down. Even when he lost in the GSL rounds and even in the Blizz Cup/MLG, he didn't look as depressed.
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Well at this point it's really sad to say...but PvZ is better than TvZ to watch. TvZ used to be so fun before all the stupid nerfs with constant back and forth action and good late-game battles with a lot of micro and usually 3+ base play.
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On July 19 2012 20:59 Aeceus wrote:They played once and DRG lost
Well there you go. Stephano best Zerg right now. MC best Toss, Byun/MKP/MVP best Terran
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MC absolutly looks like a boss. Taking back all I said about him being "mediocre" (in the sense that there are better)
He absolutly shows "Wo da Bartl an Most hoid"  (Means he is THE boss)
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On July 19 2012 21:00 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 20:59 Heavenlee wrote:On July 19 2012 20:55 Mozdk wrote:On July 19 2012 20:51 fcb10 wrote:
omg... is stephano.. the best player in the world? No You are not the best because you beat the best. A no-name who beasts flash isn't the best. Browns are not the best because they beat Giants and Denmark is not the best soccer team in the world because they beat Spain. Determining who is the best is all about consistency. Stephano has proven he is currently the best Z outside Korea imo. Nothing more than that. Agreed. This community is so fickle. Even if someone is 70% favored to win, he can even get 3-0'd...it's just the way it works, no one is guaranteed a victory just by being the better player in any sport. There is always a factor of mind games, luck, getting hardcountered, one of the people having a bad day, etc. That's why it gets somewhat frustrating to hear someone declare a player the best in the world. MC v Stephano could have been a 4-2 the other way around if MC had a slightly better composition in game 1 versus the mass ling remax, and if he hadn't been caught in a bad position after being up 20 workers in the game on Ohana, yet people are saying MC got "crushed" in that series as if Stephano just completely outclassed him in every way. Fantasy 3-0ing Flash. Rerember anyone???
I predicted that though, Fantasy has been better since the PL finals.
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