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Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
July 19 2012 12:00 GMT
#2761
On July 19 2012 20:57 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:55 Mozdk wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:51 fcb10 wrote:
omg... is stephano.. the best player in the world?


No

You are not the best because you beat the best. A no-name who beasts flash isn't the best. Browns are not the best because they beat Giants and Denmark is not the best soccer team in the world because they beat Spain. Determining who is the best is all about consistency. Stephano has proven he is currently the best Z outside Korea imo. Nothing more than that.


Maybe you can say Stephano is the best (or among the best) when it comes to tournaments and matches where you can't prepare your opponent one week in advance...

Still, he's not proven what he's made of when competing against an opponent who studied his style for one week...

(The Blizzcup wasn't enough, though he performed well despite his 3 place finish).



He is not even the best at any kind of tournament. He is just a great player with exceptional ZvP. Whether it's GSL or "A tournament you can't prepare" there's people who achieved more than him.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 19 2012 12:00 GMT
#2762
On July 19 2012 20:59 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:58 Fusilero wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:57 Mozdk wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:54 Havik_ wrote:
Stephano ZvP?? Better than DRG right now.


Could Stephano possibly be the next Zerg bonjwa?! o.O

I think so guys



OMFG

First he actually has to dominate with 80%+ winrate for 2+ years... in Korea. So what does he need. Well he needs better winrate... He needs it IN KOREA... and he needs, oh that's right 2 years... Meaning 0% Bonjwa. Jeez such a comment is stupid.

Are you Romanian?


No why. You can look up to see where I am from.

Danish by origin, Romanian by heart
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
July 19 2012 12:00 GMT
#2763
osl spoilers please fakedeath
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
July 19 2012 12:00 GMT
#2764
On July 19 2012 20:59 Aeceus wrote:
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On July 19 2012 20:59 tomatriedes wrote:
DRG would crush Stephano in ZvZ.


They played once and DRG lost


He got lucky then.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 19 2012 12:00 GMT
#2765
On July 19 2012 20:57 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:54 Havik_ wrote:
Stephano ZvP?? Better than DRG right now.


Could Stephano possibly be the next Zerg bonjwa?! o.O

I think so guys



OMFG

First he actually has to dominate with 80%+ winrate for 2+ years... in Korea. So what does he need. Well he needs better winrate... He needs it IN KOREA... and he needs, oh that's right 2 years... Meaning 0% Bonjwa. Jeez such a comment is stupid.


knew I'd get at least one ;p

User was temp banned for this post.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
blacklist_member
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia318 Posts
July 19 2012 12:01 GMT
#2766
Does DRG look depressed for some reason?

Or soes he look like that every day??
MC and MKP fighting ^^
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
July 19 2012 12:01 GMT
#2767
On July 19 2012 20:59 MVTaylor wrote:
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On July 19 2012 20:57 snafoo wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


fixed

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Amazing.

MC, finish this. >:D HERE WE GOOOO!!
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
July 19 2012 12:01 GMT
#2768
On July 19 2012 20:58 Embir wrote:
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On July 19 2012 20:49 Derez wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:48 Kpaxlol wrote:
So, really. Stephano best ZvP atm ?

You can't be best anything in SC2 without playing the GSL.


I say bullshit.

There is a lot of big tournaments in the world ATM and this is a beauty of SC2. Who says you need to win GSL to be relevant? Stephano is the best proof of this.

It is actually really uncomfortable for foreigners to start in GSL, add to this cultural and language barriers and I would say there is nothing wrong for them to stay in Europe and play in local tournaments.

For me GSL is just another good, big tournament next to MLG and Dreamhack - and results from these two are for me as important as for GSL.


There is no tournament as hard as GSL. It is a big difference if you win some foreign tournaments or the GSL. It's a big gap in skill.
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
July 19 2012 12:01 GMT
#2769
if you want to discuss 'best zerg' topic please go to idra's streamchat, thanks
[_] Terran [_] Zerg [_] Protoss [X] Random ------- Fantasy - hyvaa - sOs
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
July 19 2012 12:01 GMT
#2770
On July 19 2012 20:59 Gladiator333 wrote:
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On July 19 2012 20:58 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:56 Darkthorn wrote:
If MC wins vs DRG, the finals will probably be won by Seed because IM won't help MC at all even though they have a partnership.


I cant remember when MC lost a PvP in important match.


I have seen Seed play PvP and it's really good, but so is MC. I think it can go either way, but I expect to see hallucinations! :D


Actually i would as far as to say that MC's best match-up is not PvZ, it is actually PvP. We ll see however, one more win for dat.
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 12:01:39
July 19 2012 12:01 GMT
#2771
On July 19 2012 20:59 glzElectromaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:57 lichter wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:54 Havik_ wrote:
Stephano ZvP?? Better than DRG right now.


Could Stephano possibly be the next Zerg bonjwa?! o.O

I think so guys


KT.HITMAN 2012

Edit: Only people who paid attention to Kespa OSL Quals will get this


Sir, it's KT.HitmaN

lol jk it's unfortunate he got eliminated in the finals


Need to caps it for emphasis man

EMPHASIS

See? Makes it totally legit
AdministratorYOU MUST HEED MY INSTRUCTIONS TAKE OFF YOUR THIIIINGS
Terrick
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark12 Posts
July 19 2012 12:01 GMT
#2772
Saying more preparation will help koreans against Stephano is not true.. Stephano is already the most studied foreigner and all the koreans know his playstyle and they have been trying to figure out ways to beat him for a long time now but what has the result been?
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
July 19 2012 12:01 GMT
#2773
On July 19 2012 20:57 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:54 Havik_ wrote:
Stephano ZvP?? Better than DRG right now.


Could Stephano possibly be the next Zerg bonjwa?! o.O

I think so guys



OMFG

First he actually has to dominate with 80%+ winrate for 2+ years... in Korea. So what does he need. Well he needs better winrate... He needs it IN KOREA... and he needs, oh that's right 2 years... Meaning 0% Bonjwa. Jeez such a comment is stupid.

nnnnneeeooowwwwwwwwww

that was the sound caused by the doppler effect of the ultramassive WOOOOOSH

calling anyone a bonjwa in SC2 is either irony or idiocy, always assume the former
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
July 19 2012 12:01 GMT
#2774
On July 19 2012 21:00 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:59 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:55 Mozdk wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:51 fcb10 wrote:
omg... is stephano.. the best player in the world?


No

You are not the best because you beat the best. A no-name who beasts flash isn't the best. Browns are not the best because they beat Giants and Denmark is not the best soccer team in the world because they beat Spain. Determining who is the best is all about consistency. Stephano has proven he is currently the best Z outside Korea imo. Nothing more than that.


Agreed. This community is so fickle. Even if someone is 70% favored to win, he can even get 3-0'd...it's just the way it works, no one is guaranteed a victory just by being the better player in any sport. There is always a factor of mind games, luck, getting hardcountered, one of the people having a bad day, etc. That's why it gets somewhat frustrating to hear someone declare a player the best in the world. MC v Stephano could have been a 4-2 the other way around if MC had a slightly better composition in game 1 versus the mass ling remax, and if he hadn't been caught in a bad position after being up 20 workers in the game on Ohana, yet people are saying MC got "crushed" in that series as if Stephano just completely outclassed him in every way.


Fantasy 3-0ing Flash.
Rerember anyone???

How far can you be from truth? Flash was having signs of weakness. His achievements in TvT 2 years prior were worth nothing. Capish?
Stork[gm]
Sitinte
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States499 Posts
July 19 2012 12:01 GMT
#2775
On July 19 2012 21:01 blacklist_member wrote:
Does DRG look depressed for some reason?

Or soes he look like that every day??


First time seeing him this down. Even when he lost in the GSL rounds and even in the Blizz Cup/MLG, he didn't look as depressed.
Scila
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1849 Posts
July 19 2012 12:01 GMT
#2776
Well at this point it's really sad to say...but PvZ is better than TvZ to watch. TvZ used to be so fun before all the stupid nerfs with constant back and forth action and good late-game battles with a lot of micro and usually 3+ base play.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
Kpaxlol
Profile Joined April 2010
813 Posts
July 19 2012 12:01 GMT
#2777
Such a long break god.
<3 bw
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
July 19 2012 12:02 GMT
#2778
On July 19 2012 20:59 Aeceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:59 tomatriedes wrote:
DRG would crush Stephano in ZvZ.


They played once and DRG lost




Well there you go. Stephano best Zerg right now. MC best Toss, Byun/MKP/MVP best Terran
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
July 19 2012 12:02 GMT
#2779
MC absolutly looks like a boss. Taking back all I said about him being "mediocre" (in the sense that there are better)
He absolutly shows "Wo da Bartl an Most hoid" (Means he is THE boss)
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 19 2012 12:02 GMT
#2780
On July 19 2012 21:00 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:59 Heavenlee wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:55 Mozdk wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:51 fcb10 wrote:
omg... is stephano.. the best player in the world?


No

You are not the best because you beat the best. A no-name who beasts flash isn't the best. Browns are not the best because they beat Giants and Denmark is not the best soccer team in the world because they beat Spain. Determining who is the best is all about consistency. Stephano has proven he is currently the best Z outside Korea imo. Nothing more than that.


Agreed. This community is so fickle. Even if someone is 70% favored to win, he can even get 3-0'd...it's just the way it works, no one is guaranteed a victory just by being the better player in any sport. There is always a factor of mind games, luck, getting hardcountered, one of the people having a bad day, etc. That's why it gets somewhat frustrating to hear someone declare a player the best in the world. MC v Stephano could have been a 4-2 the other way around if MC had a slightly better composition in game 1 versus the mass ling remax, and if he hadn't been caught in a bad position after being up 20 workers in the game on Ohana, yet people are saying MC got "crushed" in that series as if Stephano just completely outclassed him in every way.


Fantasy 3-0ing Flash.
Rerember anyone???


I predicted that though, Fantasy has been better since the PL finals.
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