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[Code S] Semi-Finals GSL 2012 Season 3 - Page 137

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DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
July 19 2012 11:57 GMT
#2721
On July 19 2012 20:55 opterown wrote:
i hope drg steps it up soon


No opterown, you have to hope for DRG to be bad so FXO can win vs MVP tomorrow! :p

In all seriousness, sucks to see DRG to be this down. He looks like he plays without confidence, hope he regains it. Think it's too late now though :/
리노크 👑
MajorityofOne
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2506 Posts
July 19 2012 11:57 GMT
#2722
On July 19 2012 20:54 Serinox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:53 FataLe wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:52 MajorityofOne wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:50 Serinox wrote:
You guys should really not hope for a PvP final, it is going to be horrible. Remember Genius vs NaNiwa this season? Worst Code S series of this Season by far.


Even if its a weak finals, having another Protoss champ will be gratifying for fans of the race.
But let's hope we get lucky and Seed and MC put on a great show as well

Exactly.
It's been too long since a Protoss champion. Time for some.

Even if that means the finals aren't so good.


Can't we just have Seed beating the shit out of DRG


Leave nothing to chance. Last season was supposed to be the Protoss breakthrough, but then MVP ruined it with his brilliance. If we go from Seed in the finals and MC up 2-0 to DRG somehow holding the trophy I think it'd kill some of the Protoss on here
BlindKill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia1508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 11:58:55
July 19 2012 11:57 GMT
#2723

MC definitely back on form this year
+ Show Spoiler +
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“Life is a grindstone, and whether it grinds a man down or polishes him up depends on the stuff he's made of.”
hyperdemented
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria372 Posts
July 19 2012 11:57 GMT
#2724
On July 19 2012 20:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:54 Havik_ wrote:
Stephano ZvP?? Better than DRG right now.


Could Stephano possibly be the next Zerg bonjwa?! o.O

I think so guys


next zerg bonjour for sure
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 11:57:29
July 19 2012 11:57 GMT
#2725
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Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
July 19 2012 11:57 GMT
#2726
On July 19 2012 20:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:54 Havik_ wrote:
Stephano ZvP?? Better than DRG right now.


Could Stephano possibly be the next Zerg bonjwa?! o.O

I think so guys



OMFG

First he actually has to dominate with 80%+ winrate for 2+ years... in Korea. So what does he need. Well he needs better winrate... He needs it IN KOREA... and he needs, oh that's right 2 years... Meaning 0% Bonjwa. Jeez such a comment is stupid.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 19 2012 11:57 GMT
#2727
On July 19 2012 20:55 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:51 fcb10 wrote:
omg... is stephano.. the best player in the world?


No

You are not the best because you beat the best. A no-name who beasts flash isn't the best. Browns are not the best because they beat Giants and Denmark is not the best soccer team in the world because they beat Spain. Determining who is the best is all about consistency. Stephano has proven he is currently the best Z outside Korea imo. Nothing more than that.


Maybe you can say Stephano is the best (or among the best) when it comes to tournaments and matches where you can't prepare your opponent one week in advance...

Still, he's not proven what he's made of when competing against an opponent who studied his style for one week...

(The Blizzcup wasn't enough, though he performed well despite his 3 place finish).
LiquipediaWanderer
blacklist_member
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia318 Posts
July 19 2012 11:57 GMT
#2728
Well DRG's now 0-4 on ohana, he really hates this map i guess...

He has a 78% win-rate on Antiga so we should see a much better game now...
MC and MKP fighting ^^
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 11:58:30
July 19 2012 11:57 GMT
#2729
On July 19 2012 20:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:54 Havik_ wrote:
Stephano ZvP?? Better than DRG right now.


Could Stephano possibly be the next Zerg bonjwa?! o.O

I think so guys


KT.HITMAN 2012

Edit: Only people who paid attention to Kespa OSL Quals will get this
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NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
July 19 2012 11:58 GMT
#2730
On July 19 2012 20:56 Darkthorn wrote:
If MC wins vs DRG, the finals will probably be won by Seed because IM won't help MC at all even though they have a partnership.


I cant remember when MC lost a PvP in important match.
Embir
Profile Joined January 2011
Poland567 Posts
July 19 2012 11:58 GMT
#2731
On July 19 2012 20:49 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:48 Kpaxlol wrote:
So, really. Stephano best ZvP atm ?

You can't be best anything in SC2 without playing the GSL.


I say bullshit.

There is a lot of big tournaments in the world ATM and this is a beauty of SC2. Who says you need to win GSL to be relevant? Stephano is the best proof of this.

It is actually really uncomfortable for foreigners to start in GSL, add to this cultural and language barriers and I would say there is nothing wrong for them to stay in Europe and play in local tournaments.

For me GSL is just another good, big tournament next to MLG and Dreamhack - and results from these two are for me as important as for GSL.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 19 2012 11:58 GMT
#2732
On July 19 2012 20:57 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:54 Havik_ wrote:
Stephano ZvP?? Better than DRG right now.


Could Stephano possibly be the next Zerg bonjwa?! o.O

I think so guys



OMFG

First he actually has to dominate with 80%+ winrate for 2+ years... in Korea. So what does he need. Well he needs better winrate... He needs it IN KOREA... and he needs, oh that's right 2 years... Meaning 0% Bonjwa. Jeez such a comment is stupid.

Are you Romanian?
Glorious SEA doto
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 19 2012 11:58 GMT
#2733
On July 19 2012 20:57 hyperdemented wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:54 Havik_ wrote:
Stephano ZvP?? Better than DRG right now.


Could Stephano possibly be the next Zerg bonjwa?! o.O

I think so guys


next zerg bonjour for sure


Oh god i'm french and i just died laughing xD.

You're a hero !
LiquipediaWanderer
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4533 Posts
July 19 2012 11:58 GMT
#2734
On July 19 2012 20:56 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:55 FataLe wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:54 Serinox wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:53 FataLe wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:52 MajorityofOne wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:50 Serinox wrote:
You guys should really not hope for a PvP final, it is going to be horrible. Remember Genius vs NaNiwa this season? Worst Code S series of this Season by far.


Even if its a weak finals, having another Protoss champ will be gratifying for fans of the race.
But let's hope we get lucky and Seed and MC put on a great show as well

Exactly.
It's been too long since a Protoss champion. Time for some.

Even if that means the finals aren't so good.


Can't we just have Seed beating the shit out of DRG

Can't take the risk man

everytime a toss makes it to the finals who isn't MC.

Protoss are left shattered around the world..


If the finals is Seed vs DRG and DRG wins that will make all 3 seasons so far this year with a Protoss making it to the finals only to lose.

Exactly,
my heart can't take much more of it.

I must have racial equality!
hi. big fan.
Juliette
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6003 Posts
July 19 2012 11:58 GMT
#2735
On July 19 2012 20:57 BlindKill wrote:
MC definitely back on form this year

+ Show Spoiler +
http://images.mrlazyinc.com/games/memes/homestory_cup_iv_ogs_mc_air_hump.gif


gonna unspoiler that for you - i feel its necessary to the thread

[image loading]
OKAY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 19 2012 11:58 GMT
#2736
On July 19 2012 20:57 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:55 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:54 Havik_ wrote:
Stephano ZvP?? Better than DRG right now.


Could Stephano possibly be the next Zerg bonjwa?! o.O

I think so guys



OMFG

First he actually has to dominate with 80%+ winrate for 2+ years... in Korea. So what does he need. Well he needs better winrate... He needs it IN KOREA... and he needs, oh that's right 2 years... Meaning 0% Bonjwa. Jeez such a comment is stupid.

........don't feed the troll
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 19 2012 11:58 GMT
#2737
On July 19 2012 20:57 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:55 Mozdk wrote:
On July 19 2012 20:51 fcb10 wrote:
omg... is stephano.. the best player in the world?


No

You are not the best because you beat the best. A no-name who beasts flash isn't the best. Browns are not the best because they beat Giants and Denmark is not the best soccer team in the world because they beat Spain. Determining who is the best is all about consistency. Stephano has proven he is currently the best Z outside Korea imo. Nothing more than that.


Maybe you can say Stephano is the best (or among the best) when it comes to tournaments and matches where you can't prepare your opponent one week in advance...

Still, he's not proven what he's made of when competing against an opponent who studied his style for one week...

(The Blizzcup wasn't enough, though he performed well despite his 3 place finish).


Stephano has only won one premier tournament this year, he's only getting all this hype because it was the most recent one.

Let's not forget he also only had to play his best match up in PvZ to win the tournament.
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 11:58:57
July 19 2012 11:58 GMT
#2738
On July 19 2012 20:55 Mozdk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 20:51 fcb10 wrote:
omg... is stephano.. the best player in the world?


No

You are not the best because you beat the best. A no-name who beasts flash isn't the best. Browns are not the best because they beat Giants and Denmark is not the best soccer team in the world because they beat Spain. Determining who is the best is all about consistency. Stephano has proven he is currently the best Z outside Korea imo. Nothing more than that.


By that logic DRG is also excluded from being the best Zerg because he is quite inconsistent in the GSL (losing 1-4 in his group last season and probably going 0-3 or 1-3 to MC this season).

Also by that logic NesTea is the best Zerg because he is easily the most consistent, same with Mvp for Terran and MC for Protoss.

Although I would agree with those at top 3, you cannot judge a player based on wins alone, you have to look at what they do when they win, who they beat, and what they do to stay at the top.
IMMvp|fOrGG|IMNesTea|oGsMC|Liquid`Hero|DongRaeGu|Slayers_MMA|Liquid`TLO|MarineKingPrime|IMSeed
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
July 19 2012 11:58 GMT
#2739
I'm still slightly irked they didn't seem to finish the montage. It just seemed like they described the pause and him slumping again, show a quote of his during the slump, and then it just...ends...
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
July 19 2012 11:58 GMT
#2740
On July 19 2012 20:56 SKYFISH_ wrote:
I don't know what is wrong with you people, MC is easily the best Protoss and this is the RO4....did you guys honestly expect him to go down 0-3 to DRG just like that?

reminds me of last season when people were saying MVP doesnt stand a chance to make it past RO8

lol

Losing to two foreingers just before you play the best zerg in the world is not really giving anyone an optimism. Its not like he throwed out the games there(10k and 30k for 1st places), he looked totally clueless vs foreigners in bo5 and bo7. So tell me what gave you this foresight? BECAUSE ITS GSL ok, i get it.
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