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Pugsly
Profile Joined February 2011
United States50 Posts
July 14 2012 22:04 GMT
#5181
Seemed to me like Huk went into this match feeling as though he already won....Never underestimate the Koreans ^_^
Thank You Based God
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 14 2012 22:04 GMT
#5182
On July 15 2012 07:01 TheSir wrote:
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On July 15 2012 07:00 Barez wrote:
2 people competing agaisnt koreans makes it so the gap is closing? dont think so


did you forgot last MLG already where EU had the win-rate against KR? the gap is closing


And the win-rate for KR/EU for HSC/Dreamhack? You can't have it both ways. Take winnners from certain tournaments and win rate from others...
SixSongs
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Poland1455 Posts
July 14 2012 22:04 GMT
#5183
I predict 3-0 for alicia.
The Prince of DroneS
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32747 Posts
July 14 2012 22:04 GMT
#5184
Observer building for Alicia, he's gonna counter the DTs provided he keeps them at his base.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
sansalvador
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria308 Posts
July 14 2012 22:05 GMT
#5185
Question:

Are they gonna play the whole tournament today or are the finals tomorrow?
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
July 14 2012 22:05 GMT
#5186
On July 15 2012 07:04 Al Bundy wrote:
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On July 15 2012 07:01 Benjamin99 wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:57 Al Bundy wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:56 Poisonblack wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:53 Flonomenalz wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:51 Poisonblack wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:43 GunPaladin wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:40 Poisonblack wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:34 mrtomjones wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:33 SarcasmMonster wrote:
The skill gap between KOR and EU is virtually nonexistant.

lol it is very existant.

Sick crowd there!

not anymore dude.

Koreans used to CRUSH foreigners a year ago, nowadays you don't see it anymore as most of the games are so close it can go either way (ofc unless theres some gimmicky unscouted all-in).

Rest of the world has caught up with Koreans even though they still practice significantly less. Just goes to show you how low the skill ceiling is in sc2 compared to BW since anyone can beat anyone at the highest level.

Why do people keep saying this? Koreans are still dominating whether you wanna admit it or not. One tournament won't change that.


Remember the time when whenever say 6 Koreans would be invited to foreign tourneys they would take top 6 in convincing fashion?

Those days are long gone and instead of the gap increasing (which is what logically should happen when koreans practice so much more and are much more dedicated) it has decreased and is still decreasing way too fast.

There's no "domination" anymore, it's just who plays better and who's luckier on a given day.

Lol the gap is getting closer... but it's still very much there. Don't delude yourself... lol

GO ALICIA!

keep telling yourself that, just don't be surprised if Stephano or Ret win NASL (which would have NEVER happened a year ago)

Look, you got the best foreigners vs average koreans (besides MC). You can't really draw conclusions from that.


Calling Alicia/puzzle and Hero average koreans is laughable

Well they're not exactly the cream of the crop...

What is the explanation for Nerchio taking out MC 3 1in HSC5 so?
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
July 14 2012 22:05 GMT
#5187
On July 15 2012 07:03 Benjamin99 wrote:
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On July 15 2012 06:59 JJH777 wrote:
The gap is still just as big NASL koreans are just weak. Look at IPL4 and the MLG championships.


There are only very few Europeans in those tournaments and they done amasing. I dont get you point. Last MLG we had 2 EU players in top 5 and they had better win ratio vs the koreans

Im not saying there isnt a gap but its getting smaller and smaller every month and more and more foreigner players is going pro



I think you are confused because there are a few very good foreigners, but the overall gap is still huge. Imagine a tournament with top 50 koreans and top 50 europeans in it. Pulling numbers out of my ass i'd wager on something like 13 koreans in ro16.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
July 14 2012 22:05 GMT
#5188
Alicia is 2 steps ahead of Huk in this game.
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Mowr
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden791 Posts
July 14 2012 22:05 GMT
#5189
Supernova has stopped always going cloaked bnshes but Huk seems to continue going DT's in every matchup.
Kill one man and they'll call you a murderer. Kill an army of men and they'll call you a general. But kill all men and they'll call you a god.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
July 14 2012 22:05 GMT
#5190
On July 15 2012 07:05 sansalvador wrote:
Question:

Are they gonna play the whole tournament today or are the finals tomorrow?


I think 3rd and finals tomorrow
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
July 14 2012 22:06 GMT
#5191
da crowd in silence :x
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
July 14 2012 22:06 GMT
#5192
On July 15 2012 07:04 Pugsly wrote:
Seemed to me like Huk went into this match feeling as though he already won....Never underestimate the Koreans ^_^


I would claim the opposite
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
artosismermaid
Profile Joined May 2011
213 Posts
July 14 2012 22:06 GMT
#5193
I want huk to return to form, he needs to go back to korea
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
July 14 2012 22:06 GMT
#5194
On July 15 2012 07:05 Mowr wrote:
Supernova has stopped always going cloaked bnshes but Huk seems to continue going DT's in every matchup.

Huk lived with InCa for like a year. He can't stop himself. It's second nature at this point
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Kpaxlol
Profile Joined April 2010
813 Posts
July 14 2012 22:06 GMT
#5195
Well, that was fun.
<3 bw
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
July 14 2012 22:06 GMT
#5196
this is incredible. PvPs with expansions and the expanding player winning! Matchup is one of the best in SC2 right now.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Soma.bokforlag
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden448 Posts
July 14 2012 22:06 GMT
#5197
not surprised huk hasnt been able to break into code a

he seems to be going the same way as jinro and idra
ranjutan
Profile Joined November 2010
United States636 Posts
July 14 2012 22:06 GMT
#5198
HuK has looked really bad in these first two games. Hope he can at least make this exciting...
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Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
July 14 2012 22:06 GMT
#5199
i think the top foreigns are as good as top koreans
yo
sansalvador
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria308 Posts
July 14 2012 22:06 GMT
#5200
On July 15 2012 07:05 stuchiu wrote:
Alicia is 2 steps ahead of Huk in this game.

HuK is holding on too long on flawed strategies, he needs to adapt quicker.
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