• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:27
CET 13:27
KST 21:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
Liquibets sc2 season 30 Evil Geniuses - shutting down Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
Rollback Netcode in Brood War BW General Discussion Top Players of October 2026 (EBPD Rankings) [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos How SKT1 S-Tiers Felt To Be Swept By Flash
Tourneys
2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [$1250] International ShieldBattery League New Worlds Star League
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Deus Ex 3!? Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 17907 users

[NASL] Season 3 Finals Day 1 - Page 262

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 260 261 262 263 264 426 Next
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
July 14 2012 22:07 GMT
#5221
Oh well, at least this means we get MC Stephano before it gets too late in EU!
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
epik640x
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1134 Posts
July 14 2012 22:07 GMT
#5222
This is what happens when you overhype a squad player.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
July 14 2012 22:07 GMT
#5223
On July 15 2012 07:05 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 07:03 Benjamin99 wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:59 JJH777 wrote:
The gap is still just as big NASL koreans are just weak. Look at IPL4 and the MLG championships.


There are only very few Europeans in those tournaments and they done amasing. I dont get you point. Last MLG we had 2 EU players in top 5 and they had better win ratio vs the koreans

Im not saying there isnt a gap but its getting smaller and smaller every month and more and more foreigner players is going pro



I think you are confused because there are a few very good foreigners, but the overall gap is still huge. Imagine a tournament with top 50 koreans and top 50 europeans in it. Pulling numbers out of my ass i'd wager on something like 13 koreans in ro16.

We're talking about pros, there are less Eu pros than there are Kor ones. The average skill may even be in favor of Eu pros considering the amount of poor Kor pros. a top 30 Kor is a pro but a top30 Eu is not a pro.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
-niL
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1131 Posts
July 14 2012 22:07 GMT
#5224
Ali Ali Alicia!
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
July 14 2012 22:07 GMT
#5225
On July 15 2012 07:02 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 07:02 Gladiator333 wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:59 JJH777 wrote:
The gap is still just as big NASL koreans are just weak. Look at IPL4 and the MLG championships.


I wouldn't say NASL Koreans are weak. Alicia second at MLG championship and MC currently GSL Ro4? You are contradicting yourself. >.>

when did alicia get ro4? u mean hero?


On July 15 2012 07:03 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 07:02 Gladiator333 wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:59 JJH777 wrote:
The gap is still just as big NASL koreans are just weak. Look at IPL4 and the MLG championships.


I wouldn't say NASL Koreans are weak. Alicia second at MLG championship and GSL Ro4? You are contradicting yourself. >.>


Alicia has never got a GSL ro4. He is in Code B right now. Second at MLG was his first impressive result in like a year so it could easily be a fluke.


I edited, but I meant MC is Ro4 in Code S.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
nt-rAven
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada405 Posts
July 14 2012 22:07 GMT
#5226
ever since huk stopped sitting next to mc he has gone downhill~
get owned
Highcounsel
Profile Joined March 2011
United States132 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 22:09:16
July 14 2012 22:07 GMT
#5227
Well we knew HuK has been struggling for a while now, but I was really hoping we would see that HuK top form in Canada

Losing to Scarlett was a big sign though (although Scarlett is an excellent player)
Pyre
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1940 Posts
July 14 2012 22:08 GMT
#5228
I feel like Huk has been getting worse since he joined EG
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
July 14 2012 22:08 GMT
#5229
On July 15 2012 07:07 Shackadeemus wrote:
HuK joins EG and now he looks like such an average player


Lol dont start that shit again
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
July 14 2012 22:08 GMT
#5230
On July 15 2012 07:06 oogieogie wrote:
huk seems to be pretty bad @ pvp


He also doesn't do that well in WCS canada. He seems to be genrally out of shape.
nweb
Profile Joined June 2011
198 Posts
July 14 2012 22:08 GMT
#5231
Clearly one of them had prepared builds for the match.
JacobShock
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Denmark2485 Posts
July 14 2012 22:08 GMT
#5232
I feel bad for the crowd, all the hyping of HuK by the NASL seems really anti climactic now. But hey, what can ya do. At least if he somehow pulls back and wins it'll be even more epic.
"Right on" - Morrow
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 14 2012 22:08 GMT
#5233
Time for EG to buy Stephano.
I had a good night of sleep.
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
July 14 2012 22:08 GMT
#5234
seems like my prediction was right
can i get my estro logo back pls
WeedRa
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany815 Posts
July 14 2012 22:08 GMT
#5235
whats the name of the DJ again?
Gladiator MG
Profile Joined June 2012
United States178 Posts
July 14 2012 22:08 GMT
#5236
Man, wonder why HuK was so aggressive? Seemed kind of pointless attacking up a ramp guarded by stalkers and a few sentries and then trying again right after the first failed attack.
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
July 14 2012 22:08 GMT
#5237
aliciaaaaaaa
I love crazymoving
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8770 Posts
July 14 2012 22:08 GMT
#5238
HuK went out with the wrong flag obviously - he should have waved the one from his corporate overlords who rule everything :D
fawns over the new helipad's rave reviews.
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-14 22:09:30
July 14 2012 22:08 GMT
#5239
On July 15 2012 07:06 GDbushido wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 07:05 nojok wrote:
On July 15 2012 07:04 Al Bundy wrote:
On July 15 2012 07:01 Benjamin99 wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:57 Al Bundy wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:56 Poisonblack wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:53 Flonomenalz wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:51 Poisonblack wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:43 GunPaladin wrote:
On July 15 2012 06:40 Poisonblack wrote:
[quote]
not anymore dude.

Koreans used to CRUSH foreigners a year ago, nowadays you don't see it anymore as most of the games are so close it can go either way (ofc unless theres some gimmicky unscouted all-in).

Rest of the world has caught up with Koreans even though they still practice significantly less. Just goes to show you how low the skill ceiling is in sc2 compared to BW since anyone can beat anyone at the highest level.

Why do people keep saying this? Koreans are still dominating whether you wanna admit it or not. One tournament won't change that.


Remember the time when whenever say 6 Koreans would be invited to foreign tourneys they would take top 6 in convincing fashion?

Those days are long gone and instead of the gap increasing (which is what logically should happen when koreans practice so much more and are much more dedicated) it has decreased and is still decreasing way too fast.

There's no "domination" anymore, it's just who plays better and who's luckier on a given day.

Lol the gap is getting closer... but it's still very much there. Don't delude yourself... lol

GO ALICIA!

keep telling yourself that, just don't be surprised if Stephano or Ret win NASL (which would have NEVER happened a year ago)

Look, you got the best foreigners vs average koreans (besides MC). You can't really draw conclusions from that.


Calling Alicia/puzzle and Hero average koreans is laughable

Well they're not exactly the cream of the crop...

What is the explanation for Nerchio taking out MC 3 1in HSC5 so?
sample size. do you honestly believe nerchio is a stronger player than MC?


No , but Nerchio defense vs allins is world top. MC is known of his PvZ 2/3 base Allins..( he simple cant play long macro game vs zerg. ), when Nerchio def vs first pushes its was all over.
SC 2 -LingsLover- EU -- Jaedong , NesTea , Nerchio , DRG , Moon , Oz , Tarson , Scarlett -- Dota 2 Pallad EU- NaVi - LGD
-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
July 14 2012 22:08 GMT
#5240
On July 15 2012 07:07 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2012 07:06 Killmouse wrote:
i think the top foreigns are as good as top koreans


This has been the most truthful statement concerning skill level in the whole thread.

(not entirely true, but better than everything else mentioned)


huk is far from a top foreigner right now.. And yeah, Id love to see huk to come back and win again but these games are depressing, wonder whats going on with him
Prev 1 260 261 262 263 264 426 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Kung Fu Cup
20:00
2026 Week 30
IntoTheiNu 936
WardiTV379
RotterdaM312
TKL 158
Rex104
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 312
Reynor 255
TKL 158
Rex 104
Codebar 60
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 6194
Shuttle 1242
Horang2 816
Soma 494
Jaedong 429
Light 427
ZerO 408
firebathero 326
Soulkey 287
Rush 281
[ Show more ]
Stork 263
hero 181
Zeus 176
Snow 162
Dewaltoss 126
Mind 95
Hyun 94
Pusan 91
sorry 34
soO 27
JYJ 21
Movie 18
Hm[arnc] 15
Creator 14
zelot 13
yabsab 11
Sacsri 9
Noble 7
Terrorterran 2
Dota 2
Dendi515
XcaliburYe80
Counter-Strike
fl0m5008
olofmeister1770
dupreeh565
Heroes of the Storm
crisheroes265
Khaldor47
Other Games
B2W.Neo881
XaKoH 435
DeMusliM271
Pyrionflax215
ArmadaUGS34
ZerO(Twitch)12
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL172
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 8
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 20
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• ChaeLyn 6
• iopq 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4185
• WagamamaTV320
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
10h 33m
The PondCast
21h 33m
KCM Race Survival
21h 33m
OSC
1d 1h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
Reynor vs Solar
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs MaxPax
herO vs Rogue
IPSL
3 days
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
AI Arena Tournament
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
IPSL
4 days
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
YoungYakov vs Lambo
SHIN vs TBD
Percival vs Shameless
Solar vs TBD
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-03
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.