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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 11 2012 17:06 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 17:01 FakeDeath wrote:On July 11 2012 16:19 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 16:13 ZenithM wrote:On July 11 2012 16:02 TAMinator wrote:
When Stephano was considered the best ZvP and nobody knew how to beat 3 hatch, Seed destroyed Stephano on stream 3 times. His PvZ not many know this, but is f'ng sick. I predict 3-2 Seed winning
Taeja is overhyped because he's from TL. i think it'll depend on what MC does. 3-2 MC winning if he picks good builds. I'm not one to be a blind TL fan and hipster, nor I like Taeja particularly, but you gotta admit that the guy is solid. He does well in everything he enters recently, winning qualifiers and all killing teams left and right. Definitely top 3 Terrans in the world atm, one of the only ones who seem to be good in all 3 matchups. Taeja is good but I'm just not entirely convinced of his play. I am having trouble describing what I think of it, though. I suppose I feel that he tends to "coast" through games: he is not particularly aggressive or defensive, he doesn't do interesting builds very often, he doesn't have one part of his games that stands out (MMA and his drops, MKP and his micro, Mvp and his game sense, etc), and his game seems to lack any personality for me. He still wins a lot though, which is awesome, but I find his play so... generic? Man what an ambiguous opinion. Ya he doesn't stand out as much. Taeja playstyle is like Curious just Terran version. Generic and boring but solid overall. However, unlike Curious Taeja isn't terribly inconsistent.
Hopefully he doesn't end up a jjakji (one hit wonder, sorry jjakji fans)
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SOT (Slightly Off Topic)
SeeKeR, we support you 
OT (On Topic)
Symbol and MC FTW
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On July 11 2012 17:12 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 17:06 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On July 11 2012 17:01 FakeDeath wrote:On July 11 2012 16:19 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 16:13 ZenithM wrote:On July 11 2012 16:02 TAMinator wrote:
When Stephano was considered the best ZvP and nobody knew how to beat 3 hatch, Seed destroyed Stephano on stream 3 times. His PvZ not many know this, but is f'ng sick. I predict 3-2 Seed winning
Taeja is overhyped because he's from TL. i think it'll depend on what MC does. 3-2 MC winning if he picks good builds. I'm not one to be a blind TL fan and hipster, nor I like Taeja particularly, but you gotta admit that the guy is solid. He does well in everything he enters recently, winning qualifiers and all killing teams left and right. Definitely top 3 Terrans in the world atm, one of the only ones who seem to be good in all 3 matchups. Taeja is good but I'm just not entirely convinced of his play. I am having trouble describing what I think of it, though. I suppose I feel that he tends to "coast" through games: he is not particularly aggressive or defensive, he doesn't do interesting builds very often, he doesn't have one part of his games that stands out (MMA and his drops, MKP and his micro, Mvp and his game sense, etc), and his game seems to lack any personality for me. He still wins a lot though, which is awesome, but I find his play so... generic? Man what an ambiguous opinion. Ya he doesn't stand out as much. Taeja playstyle is like Curious just Terran version. Generic and boring but solid overall. However, unlike Curious Taeja isn't terribly inconsistent. Hopefully he doesn't end up a jjakji (one hit wonder, sorry jjakji fans)
Taeja has been consistent in 2012. Sad that he only could play for 1 game in the GSTL, that was a bit disappointing.
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On July 11 2012 17:12 Elite_ wrote:
One hour until Seed vs. Symbol... What to do while I wait...
Watch Zero vs Jangbi and pray we see the sc2 equivalent tonight ;;
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i admitt i am an MC fanboy since his first GSL title.
and although i am a zerg player i want a protoss to win this season, because man its toooooooo long ago since a protoss won the gsl.
beside all the balance wine and stuff, protoss are the one who didnt achieve a victory in gsl forever now.
so i hope they finally manage to do so, and who if not the president himself should accomplish this taks?!
MC 3-2 Taeja
Symbol 3-1 Seed
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opterown
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On July 11 2012 17:12 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 17:06 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On July 11 2012 17:01 FakeDeath wrote:On July 11 2012 16:19 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 16:13 ZenithM wrote:On July 11 2012 16:02 TAMinator wrote:
When Stephano was considered the best ZvP and nobody knew how to beat 3 hatch, Seed destroyed Stephano on stream 3 times. His PvZ not many know this, but is f'ng sick. I predict 3-2 Seed winning
Taeja is overhyped because he's from TL. i think it'll depend on what MC does. 3-2 MC winning if he picks good builds. I'm not one to be a blind TL fan and hipster, nor I like Taeja particularly, but you gotta admit that the guy is solid. He does well in everything he enters recently, winning qualifiers and all killing teams left and right. Definitely top 3 Terrans in the world atm, one of the only ones who seem to be good in all 3 matchups. Taeja is good but I'm just not entirely convinced of his play. I am having trouble describing what I think of it, though. I suppose I feel that he tends to "coast" through games: he is not particularly aggressive or defensive, he doesn't do interesting builds very often, he doesn't have one part of his games that stands out (MMA and his drops, MKP and his micro, Mvp and his game sense, etc), and his game seems to lack any personality for me. He still wins a lot though, which is awesome, but I find his play so... generic? Man what an ambiguous opinion. Ya he doesn't stand out as much. Taeja playstyle is like Curious just Terran version. Generic and boring but solid overall. However, unlike Curious Taeja isn't terribly inconsistent. Hopefully he doesn't end up a jjakji (one hit wonder, sorry jjakji fans)
jjakji is still very good; probably performing better than, say, MMA or Bomber atm
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On July 11 2012 17:12 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 17:06 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On July 11 2012 17:01 FakeDeath wrote:On July 11 2012 16:19 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 16:13 ZenithM wrote:On July 11 2012 16:02 TAMinator wrote:
When Stephano was considered the best ZvP and nobody knew how to beat 3 hatch, Seed destroyed Stephano on stream 3 times. His PvZ not many know this, but is f'ng sick. I predict 3-2 Seed winning
Taeja is overhyped because he's from TL. i think it'll depend on what MC does. 3-2 MC winning if he picks good builds. I'm not one to be a blind TL fan and hipster, nor I like Taeja particularly, but you gotta admit that the guy is solid. He does well in everything he enters recently, winning qualifiers and all killing teams left and right. Definitely top 3 Terrans in the world atm, one of the only ones who seem to be good in all 3 matchups. Taeja is good but I'm just not entirely convinced of his play. I am having trouble describing what I think of it, though. I suppose I feel that he tends to "coast" through games: he is not particularly aggressive or defensive, he doesn't do interesting builds very often, he doesn't have one part of his games that stands out (MMA and his drops, MKP and his micro, Mvp and his game sense, etc), and his game seems to lack any personality for me. He still wins a lot though, which is awesome, but I find his play so... generic? Man what an ambiguous opinion. Ya he doesn't stand out as much. Taeja playstyle is like Curious just Terran version. Generic and boring but solid overall. However, unlike Curious Taeja isn't terribly inconsistent. Hopefully he doesn't end up a jjakji (one hit wonder, sorry jjakji fans)
Jjakji won a Code S which is more than taeja has ever achieved. Sorry taeja fans.
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So excited for MC vs. Taeja
Let the crownprince come forth!
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 11 2012 17:22 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 17:12 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 17:06 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On July 11 2012 17:01 FakeDeath wrote:On July 11 2012 16:19 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 16:13 ZenithM wrote:On July 11 2012 16:02 TAMinator wrote:
When Stephano was considered the best ZvP and nobody knew how to beat 3 hatch, Seed destroyed Stephano on stream 3 times. His PvZ not many know this, but is f'ng sick. I predict 3-2 Seed winning
Taeja is overhyped because he's from TL. i think it'll depend on what MC does. 3-2 MC winning if he picks good builds. I'm not one to be a blind TL fan and hipster, nor I like Taeja particularly, but you gotta admit that the guy is solid. He does well in everything he enters recently, winning qualifiers and all killing teams left and right. Definitely top 3 Terrans in the world atm, one of the only ones who seem to be good in all 3 matchups. Taeja is good but I'm just not entirely convinced of his play. I am having trouble describing what I think of it, though. I suppose I feel that he tends to "coast" through games: he is not particularly aggressive or defensive, he doesn't do interesting builds very often, he doesn't have one part of his games that stands out (MMA and his drops, MKP and his micro, Mvp and his game sense, etc), and his game seems to lack any personality for me. He still wins a lot though, which is awesome, but I find his play so... generic? Man what an ambiguous opinion. Ya he doesn't stand out as much. Taeja playstyle is like Curious just Terran version. Generic and boring but solid overall. However, unlike Curious Taeja isn't terribly inconsistent. Hopefully he doesn't end up a jjakji (one hit wonder, sorry jjakji fans) jjakji is still very good; probably performing better than, say, MMA or Bomber atm
He just doesn't look like a threat to win anything though
Which is how he was when he won the whole thing so maybe that's actually a good thing for him
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On July 11 2012 17:26 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 17:22 opterown wrote:On July 11 2012 17:12 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 17:06 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On July 11 2012 17:01 FakeDeath wrote:On July 11 2012 16:19 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 16:13 ZenithM wrote:On July 11 2012 16:02 TAMinator wrote:
When Stephano was considered the best ZvP and nobody knew how to beat 3 hatch, Seed destroyed Stephano on stream 3 times. His PvZ not many know this, but is f'ng sick. I predict 3-2 Seed winning
Taeja is overhyped because he's from TL. i think it'll depend on what MC does. 3-2 MC winning if he picks good builds. I'm not one to be a blind TL fan and hipster, nor I like Taeja particularly, but you gotta admit that the guy is solid. He does well in everything he enters recently, winning qualifiers and all killing teams left and right. Definitely top 3 Terrans in the world atm, one of the only ones who seem to be good in all 3 matchups. Taeja is good but I'm just not entirely convinced of his play. I am having trouble describing what I think of it, though. I suppose I feel that he tends to "coast" through games: he is not particularly aggressive or defensive, he doesn't do interesting builds very often, he doesn't have one part of his games that stands out (MMA and his drops, MKP and his micro, Mvp and his game sense, etc), and his game seems to lack any personality for me. He still wins a lot though, which is awesome, but I find his play so... generic? Man what an ambiguous opinion. Ya he doesn't stand out as much. Taeja playstyle is like Curious just Terran version. Generic and boring but solid overall. However, unlike Curious Taeja isn't terribly inconsistent. Hopefully he doesn't end up a jjakji (one hit wonder, sorry jjakji fans) jjakji is still very good; probably performing better than, say, MMA or Bomber atm He just doesn't look like a threat to win anything though Which is how he was when he won the whole thing so maybe that's actually a good thing for him
Jjakji still plays really well, I think he will be back as a legit contender soon.
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opterown
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On July 11 2012 17:26 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 17:22 opterown wrote:On July 11 2012 17:12 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 17:06 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On July 11 2012 17:01 FakeDeath wrote:On July 11 2012 16:19 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 16:13 ZenithM wrote:On July 11 2012 16:02 TAMinator wrote:
When Stephano was considered the best ZvP and nobody knew how to beat 3 hatch, Seed destroyed Stephano on stream 3 times. His PvZ not many know this, but is f'ng sick. I predict 3-2 Seed winning
Taeja is overhyped because he's from TL. i think it'll depend on what MC does. 3-2 MC winning if he picks good builds. I'm not one to be a blind TL fan and hipster, nor I like Taeja particularly, but you gotta admit that the guy is solid. He does well in everything he enters recently, winning qualifiers and all killing teams left and right. Definitely top 3 Terrans in the world atm, one of the only ones who seem to be good in all 3 matchups. Taeja is good but I'm just not entirely convinced of his play. I am having trouble describing what I think of it, though. I suppose I feel that he tends to "coast" through games: he is not particularly aggressive or defensive, he doesn't do interesting builds very often, he doesn't have one part of his games that stands out (MMA and his drops, MKP and his micro, Mvp and his game sense, etc), and his game seems to lack any personality for me. He still wins a lot though, which is awesome, but I find his play so... generic? Man what an ambiguous opinion. Ya he doesn't stand out as much. Taeja playstyle is like Curious just Terran version. Generic and boring but solid overall. However, unlike Curious Taeja isn't terribly inconsistent. Hopefully he doesn't end up a jjakji (one hit wonder, sorry jjakji fans) jjakji is still very good; probably performing better than, say, MMA or Bomber atm He just doesn't look like a threat to win anything though Which is how he was when he won the whole thing so maybe that's actually a good thing for him
haha yeah possibly due to the intense leenock hype at the time (coming off MLG and all)
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symbol-seed first and mc-taeja second match?
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On July 11 2012 17:09 SeaSwift wrote:
MVP had very few fans a while ago because people thought of him as generic. The reason he was so standard was because he basically set the bar for what Terran standard play actually was. Now he has a few more because of the Terran hope concept in the last GSL and his "never count me out" feel nowadays.
Taeja has potential to go down a similar route. If he can make his standard the best Terran standard in the world then he could be the MVP of 2012. It's a long road, though, and beating MC would only be the first step.
I never understood why people thought MVP's play was generic actually. He has shown plenty of innovative builds to win his GSLs, it's not like he 1 rax CC'd every game. He's always the one that comes up with the most abusive bunker placements, he was the first to show mass ghosts vs Zerg in high level play as far as I know, everyone knows MVP at his best is one of the greatest multitaskers in the game, just a few examples of what makes him stand out.
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On July 11 2012 17:27 Swiv wrote:
symbol-seed first and mc-taeja second match?
yes
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thanks, then i'll do my stuff now and hope to be back for the 2nd match
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opterown
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On July 11 2012 17:28 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 17:09 SeaSwift wrote:
MVP had very few fans a while ago because people thought of him as generic. The reason he was so standard was because he basically set the bar for what Terran standard play actually was. Now he has a few more because of the Terran hope concept in the last GSL and his "never count me out" feel nowadays.
Taeja has potential to go down a similar route. If he can make his standard the best Terran standard in the world then he could be the MVP of 2012. It's a long road, though, and beating MC would only be the first step. I never understood why people thought MVP's play was generic actually. He has shown plenty of innovative builds to win his GSLs, it's not like he 1 rax CC'd every game. He's always the one that comes up with the most abusive bunker placements, he was the first to show mass ghosts vs Zerg in high level play as far as I know, everyone knows MVP at his best is one of the greatest multitaskers in the game, just a few examples of what makes him stand out.
probably cos korean terrans were performing so well then that he was just another (this plagues a lot of terrans e.g. for those who don't follow the scene, supernova, forgg, noblesse, yoda, hack, asd are all "just another good korean terran")
plus players like bomber, mma, mkp are a bit more flashy than mvp i think
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On July 11 2012 17:28 ZenithM wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 17:09 SeaSwift wrote:
MVP had very few fans a while ago because people thought of him as generic. The reason he was so standard was because he basically set the bar for what Terran standard play actually was. Now he has a few more because of the Terran hope concept in the last GSL and his "never count me out" feel nowadays.
Taeja has potential to go down a similar route. If he can make his standard the best Terran standard in the world then he could be the MVP of 2012. It's a long road, though, and beating MC would only be the first step. I never understood why people thought MVP's play was generic actually. He has shown plenty of innovative builds to win his GSLs, it's not like he 1 rax CC'd every game. He's always the one that comes up with the most abusive bunker placements, he was the first to show mass ghosts vs Zerg in high level play as far as I know, everyone knows MVP at his best is one of the greatest multitaskers in the game, just a few examples of what makes him stand out.
Byun was actually the first person to use mass ghosts late game TvZ in Code S.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51702 Posts
TaeJa
Seed gogo
anyone who messes with seeker messes with me, and personally I don't like being messed with.
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France9034 Posts
Rooting for Taeja and Symbol !!
Though i'd appreciated that First go past Ro8  ...
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