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On July 11 2012 17:44 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 17:22 opterown wrote:On July 11 2012 17:12 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 17:06 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On July 11 2012 17:01 FakeDeath wrote:On July 11 2012 16:19 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 16:13 ZenithM wrote:On July 11 2012 16:02 TAMinator wrote: When Stephano was considered the best ZvP and nobody knew how to beat 3 hatch, Seed destroyed Stephano on stream 3 times. His PvZ not many know this, but is f'ng sick. I predict 3-2 Seed winning Taeja is overhyped because he's from TL. i think it'll depend on what MC does. 3-2 MC winning if he picks good builds. I'm not one to be a blind TL fan and hipster, nor I like Taeja particularly, but you gotta admit that the guy is solid. He does well in everything he enters recently, winning qualifiers and all killing teams left and right. Definitely top 3 Terrans in the world atm, one of the only ones who seem to be good in all 3 matchups. Taeja is good but I'm just not entirely convinced of his play. I am having trouble describing what I think of it, though. I suppose I feel that he tends to "coast" through games: he is not particularly aggressive or defensive, he doesn't do interesting builds very often, he doesn't have one part of his games that stands out (MMA and his drops, MKP and his micro, Mvp and his game sense, etc), and his game seems to lack any personality for me. He still wins a lot though, which is awesome, but I find his play so... generic? Man what an ambiguous opinion. Ya he doesn't stand out as much. Taeja playstyle is like Curious just Terran version. Generic and boring but solid overall. However, unlike Curious Taeja isn't terribly inconsistent. Hopefully he doesn't end up a jjakji (one hit wonder, sorry jjakji fans) jjakji is still very good; probably performing better than, say, MMA or Bomber atm I respectfully disagree. Jjakji is not performing better than MMA. Jjakji's last major tournament win was IPL Tournament of Champions, where he did kick ass, and got a paid trip to IPL...where he was put in the same group as MMA and was defeated and eliminated there. MMA went on to get 4th. Since then, MMA has also won Iron Squid. They are both in the Ro32 for Code A, and both are "slumping", but you can't say that Jjakji is doing better than MMA when he hasn't made a deep Code S run since late 2011 and hasn't won a live event in 8 months. I guess the only thing Jjakji is doing better than MMA right now is the GSTL, though.Is Jjakji doing better than Bomber? Once again, very hard to say, but that's a lot easier sell than MMA. We'll see this weekend during SlayerS vs. fnatic if MMA gets sent out, which is highly likely seeing that Alicia and Puzzle will be at NASL and won't be able to participate. My guess is the SlayerS line-up will be JYP (confirmed), CoCa, MMA, Ryung, YuGiOh... in no specific order, except for JYP, which is confirmed as the starter for the team.
edit - and you can make a competition out of it, see who gets more kills... MMA against fnatic or Jjakji against FXO.
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On July 11 2012 17:44 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 17:22 opterown wrote:On July 11 2012 17:12 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 17:06 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:On July 11 2012 17:01 FakeDeath wrote:On July 11 2012 16:19 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 16:13 ZenithM wrote:On July 11 2012 16:02 TAMinator wrote: When Stephano was considered the best ZvP and nobody knew how to beat 3 hatch, Seed destroyed Stephano on stream 3 times. His PvZ not many know this, but is f'ng sick. I predict 3-2 Seed winning Taeja is overhyped because he's from TL. i think it'll depend on what MC does. 3-2 MC winning if he picks good builds. I'm not one to be a blind TL fan and hipster, nor I like Taeja particularly, but you gotta admit that the guy is solid. He does well in everything he enters recently, winning qualifiers and all killing teams left and right. Definitely top 3 Terrans in the world atm, one of the only ones who seem to be good in all 3 matchups. Taeja is good but I'm just not entirely convinced of his play. I am having trouble describing what I think of it, though. I suppose I feel that he tends to "coast" through games: he is not particularly aggressive or defensive, he doesn't do interesting builds very often, he doesn't have one part of his games that stands out (MMA and his drops, MKP and his micro, Mvp and his game sense, etc), and his game seems to lack any personality for me. He still wins a lot though, which is awesome, but I find his play so... generic? Man what an ambiguous opinion. Ya he doesn't stand out as much. Taeja playstyle is like Curious just Terran version. Generic and boring but solid overall. However, unlike Curious Taeja isn't terribly inconsistent. Hopefully he doesn't end up a jjakji (one hit wonder, sorry jjakji fans) jjakji is still very good; probably performing better than, say, MMA or Bomber atm I respectfully disagree. Jjakji is not performing better than MMA. Jjakji's last major tournament win was IPL Tournament of Champions, where he did kick ass, and got a paid trip to IPL...where he was put in the same group as MMA and was defeated and eliminated there. MMA went on to get 4th. Since then, MMA has also won Iron Squid. They are both in the Ro32 for Code A, and both are "slumping", but you can't say that Jjakji is doing better than MMA when he hasn't made a deep Code S run since late 2011 and hasn't won a live event in 8 months. I guess the only thing Jjakji is doing better than MMA right now is the GSTL, though. Is Jjakji doing better than Bomber? Once again, very hard to say, but that's a lot easier sell than MMA. hmmm fair enough; i guess my personal assessment is just seeing their gameplay and stuff, but that's pretty subjective i guess. maybe it's because MMA is down a greater amount from his peak than jjakji from his, so i might be overestimating his decrease in performance.
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For all MMA's 'slump' he's actually won two major tournaments this year. He's not playing like he did at the back end of last year but his slump is definitely overstated.
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Hyped for tonight! I want to root for symbol cause he's been so impressive lately, but Seed is showing some impressive play and some fun post-game ceremonies, plus I'm not entirely sold on Symbol's ZvP. MC is fantastic and it's kinda hard not to root for him but Taeja had been on a sick run and has that Terran hope underdog thing going. If Seed wins first match I hope Taeja wins second.
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On July 11 2012 17:49 HaXXspetten wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 17:48 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 17:47 HaXXspetten wrote: Stream's up You have this uncanny ability of always popping up exactly in time for kpop kinda like the point, although I don't think it'll be any today, probably just a rerun of yesterday's GNN
I missed GNN yesterday so I'm pretty glad :p
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GNN, no preshow
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On July 11 2012 17:51 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: For all MMA's 'slump' he's actually won two major tournaments this year. He's not playing like he did at the back end of last year but his slump is definitely overstated. postpatch his performance has been a bit lackluster though (just my opinion). and that's about the last 2 months, which is ages in sc2 time since sc2 moves so quickly
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On July 11 2012 17:52 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 17:49 HaXXspetten wrote:On July 11 2012 17:48 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 17:47 HaXXspetten wrote: Stream's up You have this uncanny ability of always popping up exactly in time for kpop kinda like the point, although I don't think it'll be any today, probably just a rerun of yesterday's GNN I missed GNN yesterday so I'm pretty glad :p There are Vods.
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On July 11 2012 17:53 KiNGxXx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 17:52 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 17:49 HaXXspetten wrote:On July 11 2012 17:48 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 17:47 HaXXspetten wrote: Stream's up You have this uncanny ability of always popping up exactly in time for kpop kinda like the point, although I don't think it'll be any today, probably just a rerun of yesterday's GNN I missed GNN yesterday so I'm pretty glad :p There are Vods. Yeah, and there are no Vods of Kpop >.>
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Sigh. Mr Chae and Engine, why have you forsaken us?
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On July 11 2012 17:53 KiNGxXx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 17:52 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 17:49 HaXXspetten wrote:On July 11 2012 17:48 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 17:47 HaXXspetten wrote: Stream's up You have this uncanny ability of always popping up exactly in time for kpop kinda like the point, although I don't think it'll be any today, probably just a rerun of yesterday's GNN I missed GNN yesterday so I'm pretty glad :p There are Vods.
Stop bustin' my chops man I want my Angella live
Well sort of live in this case
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Hope MC isn't jet lagged or anything. Go MC!
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On July 11 2012 17:54 pdd wrote: Sigh. Mr Chae and Engine, why have you forsaken us?
We need a tweet brigade to question their passion for esports
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On July 11 2012 17:54 HaXXspetten wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 17:53 KiNGxXx wrote:On July 11 2012 17:52 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 17:49 HaXXspetten wrote:On July 11 2012 17:48 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 17:47 HaXXspetten wrote: Stream's up You have this uncanny ability of always popping up exactly in time for kpop kinda like the point, although I don't think it'll be any today, probably just a rerun of yesterday's GNN I missed GNN yesterday so I'm pretty glad :p There are Vods. Yeah, and there are no Vods of Kpop >.> LOL
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On July 11 2012 17:54 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 17:53 KiNGxXx wrote:On July 11 2012 17:52 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 17:49 HaXXspetten wrote:On July 11 2012 17:48 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 17:47 HaXXspetten wrote: Stream's up You have this uncanny ability of always popping up exactly in time for kpop kinda like the point, although I don't think it'll be any today, probably just a rerun of yesterday's GNN I missed GNN yesterday so I'm pretty glad :p There are Vods. Stop bustin' my chops man I want my Angella live Well sort of live in this case how is it more live to watch a rerun on stream compared to the same rerun on Vod ? lol
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On July 11 2012 17:51 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: For all MMA's 'slump' he's actually won two major tournaments this year. He's not playing like he did at the back end of last year but his slump is definitely overstated. His 'slump' occured after the patch. Before the patch he was still doing considerably well (although not as well as he could).
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i never got this 'global standard' thing
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On July 11 2012 17:54 HaXXspetten wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 17:53 KiNGxXx wrote:On July 11 2012 17:52 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 17:49 HaXXspetten wrote:On July 11 2012 17:48 lichter wrote:On July 11 2012 17:47 HaXXspetten wrote: Stream's up You have this uncanny ability of always popping up exactly in time for kpop kinda like the point, although I don't think it'll be any today, probably just a rerun of yesterday's GNN I missed GNN yesterday so I'm pretty glad :p There are Vods. Yeah, and there are no Vods of Kpop >.> Youtube and Germany...sad story!
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On July 11 2012 17:52 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2012 17:51 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: For all MMA's 'slump' he's actually won two major tournaments this year. He's not playing like he did at the back end of last year but his slump is definitely overstated. postpatch his performance has been a bit lackluster though (just my opinion). and that's about the last 2 months, which is ages in sc2 time since sc2 moves so quickly
Oh I'm 100% with you there. Post-patch MMA has been much worse than when he was at his peak, and his recent performance has not been great at all.
Hell, Ryung's TvZ post-patch looks better than MMA's right now, that's how bad it is. It's really a shame, TvZ used to be a matchup where MMA fans would sigh a breath of relief and think "ah certain win, and so happy it wasn't a protoss" :p
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