EPT[Code S] Ro16 Group D 2012 GSL Season 3 - Page 145
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Bam Lee
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keglu
Poland485 Posts
On July 05 2012 23:27 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: really ? lol i feel dumb :D i was expecting something ugly considering how zergs have been dominating terrans in GSTL. I can't find the link though, give it to me please thank you  Dont worry, turns out that Korean graph consist 20% of Korean games. | ||
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Irre
United States646 Posts
On July 05 2012 23:15 Zane wrote: If we get a TvT finals this season I'll swallow a sword. I actually laughed out loud at that one, nice! So happy for nestea! I can't see anyone beating DRG this season unless its a Nestea DRG Final.. DRG is unbelievable even with zerg being OP hes still a notch better than basically everyone. | ||
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keglu
Poland485 Posts
On July 05 2012 23:23 Orek wrote: Well, who cares if Terran is suffering for 2 months after patch. Zerg suffered waaaay longer when the game came out. Game was new? Doesn't matter. If Terran continue to suffer for 6 more months, I consider it legidimate. When Terran finally understands how Zerg felt in those times, then Zerg can reach out to Terran. Until then... We should also give a Protoss a year of advantage in PvZ to equal 2011. | ||
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Greggle
United States1131 Posts
On July 05 2012 23:23 Orek wrote: Well, who cares if Terran is suffering for 2 months after patch. Zerg suffered waaaay longer when the game came out. Game was new? Doesn't matter. If Terran continue to suffer for 6 more months, I consider it legidimate. When Terran finally understands how Zerg felt in those times, then Zerg can reach out to Terran. Until then... I don't think it was as bad as you say at release, Zerg did win the first two GSL open seasons. | ||
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AngryFarmer
United States560 Posts
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On July 05 2012 23:23 Orek wrote: Well, who cares if Terran is suffering for 2 months after patch. Zerg suffered waaaay longer when the game came out. Game was new? Doesn't matter. If Terran continue to suffer for 6 more months, I consider it legidimate. When Terran finally understands how Zerg felt in those times, then Zerg can reach out to Terran. Until then... Tell that to protoss. Currently, GSL standings are : 5 GSL titles won by Zerg 7 GSL titles won by Terran 2 GSL titles won by Protoss And yet i could name far more Terran Code S players than Zerg Code S players... There were less zerg in the GSL, but the ratio number of player/title won isn't looking bad, right ? Protoss, though.... | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On July 05 2012 23:45 Greggle wrote: I don't think it was as bad as you say at release, Zerg did win the first two GSL open seasons. Mm, sure... but I would be remiss to not point out that (like I've probably said during a few times when terrans were dominating), Fruitdealer in GSL 1, and Nestea in GSL 2... were simply better than all their opponents. Fruitdealer SHOULD have lost to TOP, but after he came through that by some miracle, well, he was much better than Rainbow, that's for sure (not a diss to rainbow, just that rainbow was kind of a surprise to have even made it that far). Nestea vs MarineKing was a pretty damn close final between two good players, with Nestea having far more experience than Marineking who was pretty green still then. So yeah, it probably was really that bad honestly - you had close spawn metal and shakuras, you could get bunker or pylon blocked by 2 bunkers on every map..... It was pretty sad lol, zergs probably won mostly because not many people actually knew how to play a normal game since they spent 90% of their time cheesing. | ||
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
i hope nani atleast takes 1 game off drg next round | ||
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FataLe
New Zealand4530 Posts
On July 05 2012 23:50 Ragnarork wrote: Tell that to protoss. Currently, GSL standings are : 5 GSL titles won by Zerg 7 GSL titles won by Terran 2 GSL titles won by Protoss And yet i could name far more Terran Code S players than Zerg Code S players... There were less zerg in the GSL, but the ratio number of player/title won isn't looking bad, right ? Protoss, though.... but, but, protoss is imba? :\ | ||
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
Hoo boy, Protoss had it rough. | ||
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Greggle
United States1131 Posts
On July 05 2012 23:53 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Mm, sure... but I would be remiss to not point out that (like I've probably said during a few times when terrans were dominating), Fruitdealer in GSL 1, and Nestea in GSL 2... were simply better than all their opponents. Fruitdealer SHOULD have lost to TOP, but after he came through that by some miracle, well, he was much better than Rainbow, that's for sure (not a diss to rainbow, just that rainbow was kind of a surprise to have even made it that far). Nestea vs MarineKing was a pretty damn close final between two good players, with Nestea having far more experience than Marineking who was pretty green still then. So yeah, it probably was really that bad honestly - you had close spawn metal and shakuras, you could get bunker or pylon blocked by 2 bunkers on every map..... It was pretty sad lol, zergs probably won mostly because not many people actually knew how to play a normal game since they spent 90% of their time cheesing. I guess its hard to really analyze the game at that rather sad, cheesy and infant state. I'll concede here since I honestly can't come close to recounting those matches as well as that from nearly two years ago. I do think MarineKing was pretty much even skill-wise at the time, but I can't complain about him getting second in that case. I do think Zerg results overall has been pretty good for their representation though. | ||
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
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Naphal
Germany2099 Posts
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sinii
England989 Posts
On July 06 2012 00:03 Naphal wrote: wasn't the ultralisk buggy when fruitdealer won the gsl? like massive splash? It wasn't buggy it was the intended implementation. Though it was huge which is why it was nerfed. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
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ImNightmare
1575 Posts
On July 05 2012 23:53 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Mm, sure... but I would be remiss to not point out that (like I've probably said during a few times when terrans were dominating), Fruitdealer in GSL 1, and Nestea in GSL 2... were simply better than all their opponents. Fruitdealer SHOULD have lost to TOP, but after he came through that by some miracle, well, he was much better than Rainbow, that's for sure (not a diss to rainbow, just that rainbow was kind of a surprise to have even made it that far). Nestea vs MarineKing was a pretty damn close final between two good players, with Nestea having far more experience than Marineking who was pretty green still then. So yeah, it probably was really that bad honestly - you had close spawn metal and shakuras, you could get bunker or pylon blocked by 2 bunkers on every map..... It was pretty sad lol, zergs probably won mostly because not many people actually knew how to play a normal game since they spent 90% of their time cheesing. Btw, off topic, I think you are awesome Jinro. No matter what other "protoss" people say. | ||
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Snusmumriken
Sweden1717 Posts
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SeaSwift
Scotland4486 Posts
On July 06 2012 00:00 Greggle wrote: I guess its hard to really analyze the game at that rather sad, cheesy and infant state. I'll concede here since I honestly can't come close to recounting those matches as well as that from nearly two years ago. I do think MarineKing was pretty much even skill-wise at the time, but I can't complain about him getting second in that case. I do think Zerg results overall has been pretty good for their representation though. Given that 3 of the Zerg GSLs were won by 1 person, 4 of the Terran GSLs by one person and both of the Protoss GSLs were by one person, I don't think balance has really changed the representation of wins of Code S. I think everyone would agree that Fruitdealer, Nestea and DRG all deserved their championships. Likewise, MVP was certainly deserving of all of his and only the staunchest of haters will deny that MC deserved his too. As for the Terran one-hit-wonder Championships Polt and Jjakji, that is arguable. I think Jjakji got his purely because he was very lucky with the format - he played Oz in the semifinals instead of fucking MVP in a TvT. He still deserved it, but I definitely wouldn't put it down to race balance. As for the Super Championship... I have no idea. | ||
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darkest44
United States1009 Posts
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