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Gijian
Profile Joined February 2011
United States273 Posts
July 05 2012 14:20 GMT
#2861
On July 05 2012 23:13 samurai80 wrote:
Happy to see a RO8 so well racially balanced. It has not happened since last year's GSL July. The representation was the same (3Z, 3P, 2T) and Nestea actually won Well at least I hope he can defeat Byun really.


Quite balance except in the representatives. If the 2 T were MKP and MVP or something, I say it's decent. But Byun and Taeja? Hmm I have some doubts of the progession especially when you notice the Zerg line up consisted of the 3 kings. Protoss got 3 powerful players as well (actually I'm not too familiar with seed). So you could say I'm at doubt at their progression.
IndyO
Profile Joined June 2012
392 Posts
July 05 2012 14:20 GMT
#2862
doesn't matter when its almost a year soon that he got his last title.

You can't live off old glory forever.

He said he always felt Nestea was overated. And really, non-stop consecutive GSL seasons isn't something to smirk at either. These are the best players in the world, and to be able to consistently contend with them already makes him worthy of his praise. If anything, I'd say to much focus goes on only the winners leaving everyone else behind. This is the pinnacle of the SC2, pretty much all of these players have already proved there worth.
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
July 05 2012 14:20 GMT
#2863
On July 05 2012 23:17 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 23:16 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Can't wait to see the TLPD TvZ stats for june xD


they are out and 51% in favor of terran



Haha. wow. Terran imba!!! :p






Reading these LR threads the last few days, you'd think it was 95% Zerg.
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
Waywatcher
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands205 Posts
July 05 2012 14:21 GMT
#2864
On July 05 2012 23:20 Havik_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 23:17 Tsubbi wrote:
On July 05 2012 23:16 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Can't wait to see the TLPD TvZ stats for june xD


they are out and 51% in favor of terran



Haha. wow. Terran imba!!! :p






Reading these LR threads the last few days, you'd think it was 95% Zerg.


Well zerg is still OP they just dont play good enough, terran has the better players so the winrate is equal

/sarcasm
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 05 2012 14:22 GMT
#2865
On July 05 2012 23:14 Sroobz wrote:
RO8

Symbol > Seed
Byun > Nestea
Mc > Taeja
DRG > Naniwa

RO4

Byun > Symbol
DRG > Mc

Winner

Byun > DRG

I HAVE FAITH IN BYUN

Byun beating NesTea, Symbol and DRG?

okay
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
July 05 2012 14:22 GMT
#2866
On July 05 2012 23:21 Waywatcher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 23:20 Havik_ wrote:
On July 05 2012 23:17 Tsubbi wrote:
On July 05 2012 23:16 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Can't wait to see the TLPD TvZ stats for june xD


they are out and 51% in favor of terran



Haha. wow. Terran imba!!! :p






Reading these LR threads the last few days, you'd think it was 95% Zerg.


Well zerg is still OP they just dont play good enough, terran has the better players so the winrate is equal

/sarcasm

lol, blizzard forums summed up in one line. Except you forgot to add in protoss right beside the zerg line.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 05 2012 14:22 GMT
#2867
On July 05 2012 23:13 Leporello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 23:11 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 05 2012 23:08 tdt wrote:
Dumb to go CC first twice in a row and w/o scouting pool before doing it. Greedy gets gone. Pigs get fat hogs get slaughterd.


Yeah, greedy zergs can be so easily punished these days, it's not even funny.


So are you saying it wasn't dumb to go CC first two games in a row?

I didn't overtly mind the days of GomTvTvTvT, but seeing snipes like yours against fellow posters makes me glad Terrans are actually not dominating anymore. Cry more.


I'm not saying it wasn't dumb. I was specificly replying to some sort of "Greedy Terran Hate", while the current state of the game tends to show Terrans that either go 11/11, or go greedy against Zerg to catch up the 5 min 3 hatch uncontested.

Don't take my words for what they aren't. I'd appreciate that both race can go either greedy or standard, and that going greedy implies related risks. Currently, it's not even.

Still, i'm enjoying the match up, and about GomTvT, though it makes me a bit sad that there wasn't a good balance between race, nothing convinced me yet that it was due to "imbalance", and not because of some sort of skill difference between players...

To illustrate, a perfectly balanced game would have 1/3 of good players picking Zerg, 1/3 picking Terrans, 1/3 picking Protoss, and every steps of the tournament would have an equal representation of each race.

I don't believe it. Just the fact that there was a lot more terrans than the other races plays a lot in this...

Attention, i'm not pretending IT IS true. Just, i'm not convinced.

The last GSL were promising though, with different situations as listed above, but was it due to nerfs/up that helped players a bit less skilled ? Was it due to these players increasing skill ? I can't say for sure.
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Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
July 05 2012 14:23 GMT
#2868
Well, who cares if Terran is suffering for 2 months after patch.
Zerg suffered waaaay longer when the game came out.
Game was new? Doesn't matter.
If Terran continue to suffer for 6 more months, I consider it legidimate.
When Terran finally understands how Zerg felt in those times, then Zerg can reach out to Terran. Until then...
soverRR
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden348 Posts
July 05 2012 14:23 GMT
#2869
On July 05 2012 23:12 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 23:11 soverRR wrote:
On July 05 2012 23:09 SolidMustard wrote:
On July 05 2012 23:07 yotis wrote:
On July 05 2012 23:06 Tsubbi wrote:
lol epic gem in drg's interview:

You will face Naniwa in ro8

I can do whatever I want and still win. That’s all I have to say.


It's sad cuz it's true


Koreans like to be cocky before facing foreigners. Genius didn't learn his lesson, and as big of DRG fan as I might be, I hope that Nani is gonna teach him one too


Then again, DRG is arguably a notch better than Genius, and there's less chance of an "upset" in ro8 than ro16. I hope you're right, but serioudly doubt it.


Might be an intersting serie overall. I would like to see some very good action, whoever advances..


Indeed. Worst come to worst, NaNi is still in Code S next season and have any been defeated by the most recent champions.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 05 2012 14:25 GMT
#2870
[DRG on Naniwa] You will face Naniwa in ro8

I can do whatever I want and still win. That’s all I have to say.

On July 05 2012 22:52 Naniwa wrote:
its ok, i know im the underdog we will see how it goes.

우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-05 14:28:00
July 05 2012 14:25 GMT
#2871
On July 05 2012 23:23 soverRR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 23:12 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 05 2012 23:11 soverRR wrote:
On July 05 2012 23:09 SolidMustard wrote:
On July 05 2012 23:07 yotis wrote:
On July 05 2012 23:06 Tsubbi wrote:
lol epic gem in drg's interview:

You will face Naniwa in ro8

I can do whatever I want and still win. That’s all I have to say.


It's sad cuz it's true


Koreans like to be cocky before facing foreigners. Genius didn't learn his lesson, and as big of DRG fan as I might be, I hope that Nani is gonna teach him one too


Then again, DRG is arguably a notch better than Genius, and there's less chance of an "upset" in ro8 than ro16. I hope you're right, but serioudly doubt it.


Might be an intersting serie overall. I would like to see some very good action, whoever advances..


Indeed. Worst come to worst, NaNi is still in Code S next season and have any been defeated by the most recent champions.


Yep, loosing to MVP and (well, not yet, though quite inevitable) by DRG isn't quite shameful right !

^The burden is on DRG shoulders. I think he has way more pressure since Naniwa's granted next season Code S spot gives him 3 code S season presence with only 1 seed, something few foreigners could achieve...
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bLecK
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia625 Posts
July 05 2012 14:27 GMT
#2872
On July 05 2012 23:14 Sroobz wrote:
RO8

Symbol > Seed
Byun > Nestea
Mc > Taeja
DRG > Naniwa

RO4

Byun > Symbol
DRG > Mc

Winner

Byun > DRG

I HAVE FAITH IN BYUN

AS DO I
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Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
July 05 2012 14:27 GMT
#2873
On July 05 2012 23:17 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 23:16 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Can't wait to see the TLPD TvZ stats for june xD


they are out and 51% in favor of terran


really ? lol i feel dumb :D i was expecting something ugly considering how zergs have been dominating terrans in GSTL. I can't find the link though, give it to me please thank you
Terran & Potato Salad.
Moka
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada942 Posts
July 05 2012 14:28 GMT
#2874
On July 05 2012 23:23 Orek wrote:
Well, who cares if Terran is suffering for 2 months after patch.
Zerg suffered waaaay longer when the game came out.
Game was new? Doesn't matter.
If Terran continue to suffer for 6 more months, I consider it legidimate.
When Terran finally understands how Zerg felt in those times, then Zerg can reach out to Terran. Until then...



Eye for an eye, rooar
ヾ(@⌒_⌒@)ノ
onPHYRE
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria925 Posts
July 05 2012 14:28 GMT
#2875
On July 05 2012 23:22 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 23:14 Sroobz wrote:
RO8

Symbol > Seed
Byun > Nestea
Mc > Taeja
DRG > Naniwa

RO4

Byun > Symbol
DRG > Mc

Winner

Byun > DRG

I HAVE FAITH IN BYUN

Byun beating NesTea, Symbol and DRG?

okay


I think if anyone wins this that is not a Z, it would be ByuN, but to beat those 3 zergs in a row, in a bo5, bo5, bo7 no less... just seems too improbable.
Livin' this life like it was written.
Sroobz
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1377 Posts
July 05 2012 14:28 GMT
#2876
On July 05 2012 23:22 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 23:14 Sroobz wrote:
RO8

Symbol > Seed
Byun > Nestea
Mc > Taeja
DRG > Naniwa

RO4

Byun > Symbol
DRG > Mc

Winner

Byun > DRG

I HAVE FAITH IN BYUN

Byun beating NesTea, Symbol and DRG?

okay


Call me a crazy person, but I think he can DO IT!
Flash---Taeja---Mvp---Byun---DRG
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
July 05 2012 14:31 GMT
#2877
On July 05 2012 23:28 Sroobz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2012 23:22 HaXXspetten wrote:
On July 05 2012 23:14 Sroobz wrote:
RO8

Symbol > Seed
Byun > Nestea
Mc > Taeja
DRG > Naniwa

RO4

Byun > Symbol
DRG > Mc

Winner

Byun > DRG

I HAVE FAITH IN BYUN

Byun beating NesTea, Symbol and DRG?

okay


Call me a crazy person, but I think he can DO IT!


That would be freaking awesome !
LiquipediaWanderer
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7997 Posts
July 05 2012 14:33 GMT
#2878
drg is going to the us over the weeknd, so wont be able to train and is jetlagged for the match against naniwa, dont count him out so easily
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
July 05 2012 14:39 GMT
#2879
oh damn, just realized Nestea and DRG definitely won't be in TSL4 ;;

Their matches are next Thursday again D:
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
[17]Purple
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom3489 Posts
July 05 2012 14:39 GMT
#2880
On July 05 2012 23:33 Tsubbi wrote:
drg is going to the us over the weeknd, so wont be able to train and is jetlagged for the match against naniwa, dont count him out so easily

I'm hoping that NaNiwa will pull a Bisu and revolutionize PvZ
"Turn Disadvantages into Disadvantages" and "Collect Telephones". The secrets of Chinese success.
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