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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
June 15 2012 11:12 GMT
#1401
On June 15 2012 20:11 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 20:10 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:09 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:08 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:08 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:07 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:06 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:05 HaXXspetten wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:05 KristofferAG wrote:
I'm hungry.

I has tortellini, omnom

Prick


I has Doritos and lemonade :3

Thought your job was to make me happy :<

You can have some

I'll remember that for when I got to Britland =D


TL LR MEETING FOR MOVIE NIGHT AND LEMONADE

fuck yeah

Best party ever.

unless some of the balance whiners join in while we're watching Land Before Time, whining about T. Rex being OP.

i have the entire thing, but u kinda need a vcr to play it, lol
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 11:13:43
June 15 2012 11:13 GMT
#1402
On June 15 2012 20:12 HolyArrow wrote:
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On June 15 2012 20:10 rothsbury wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:09 Dodgin wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:07 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:05 Dodgin wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:04 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:02 Mackus wrote:
On June 15 2012 19:52 Fubi wrote:
On June 15 2012 19:49 Xcobidoo wrote:
On June 15 2012 19:48 Mackus wrote:
Correct me on this but there hasnt been a single Terran win this GSTL having MKP, Byun and MVP involved?

Only Jjakji has won so far I'm pretty sure...

Nope... 0 Terran win in TvZ so far in GSTL


I meant in general but Jjakji in a TvP is the only Terran win so far this tournament which is pretty bad race representation wise

Doesn't matter, in GSL only one zerg got through. Nestea.


Curious got smacked down by Seed, not a terran. and Line is Line. wait for the good zergs to play next week before passing any judgements on that.

Yeah? GSTL is famous for not being representative of a player's skill then. MVP and nestea suck in it, I don't see why people are passing judgement on it, its more like they want to prove something.


I dunno man 0-12 tvz seems like a problem not related to skill seeing as how mvp mkp and mma all lost to zergs.

You got to give the TvZ match-up time. Prepatch terrans just went reactor fac hellions 95% of the time, and they've only had a month to adapt to the increased queen range. They'll figure it out much better and you'll see TvZ improve. Too often in SC2 people see one race temporarily weaker (like the 111 vs protoss) and assume it's because of fundamental imbalance, when a lot of the time you can solve the problem by giving the players time to figure out a solution.


1-1-1 vs. Protoss is a bad example to use because Protoss was buffed in response to that xD

I still don't get how the immortal range was a buff for the 111 though. Its pretty funny that they buff the observers after so long. I thought that would be the logical thing to vs the 1-1-1
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
June 15 2012 11:13 GMT
#1403
On June 15 2012 20:12 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 20:11 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:10 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:09 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:08 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:08 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:07 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:06 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:05 HaXXspetten wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:05 KristofferAG wrote:
I'm hungry.

I has tortellini, omnom

Prick


I has Doritos and lemonade :3

Thought your job was to make me happy :<

You can have some

I'll remember that for when I got to Britland =D


TL LR MEETING FOR MOVIE NIGHT AND LEMONADE

fuck yeah

Best party ever.

unless some of the balance whiners join in while we're watching Land Before Time, whining about T. Rex being OP.

i have the entire thing, but u kinda need a vcr to play it, lol
I have one. Thought all decent people had a VCR lying around. :>
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
June 15 2012 11:13 GMT
#1404
On June 15 2012 20:11 Shock710 wrote:
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On June 15 2012 20:08 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:08 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:07 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:06 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:05 HaXXspetten wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:05 KristofferAG wrote:
I'm hungry.

I has tortellini, omnom

Prick


I has Doritos and lemonade :3

Thought your job was to make me happy :<

You can have some

Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 20:08 HaXXspetten wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:08 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:07 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:06 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:05 HaXXspetten wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:05 KristofferAG wrote:
I'm hungry.

I has tortellini, omnom

Prick


I has Doritos and lemonade :3

Thought your job was to make me happy :<

In a... sexual way?

can i have some....in a sexual way

Kpop gurls feeding you doritos & lemonade

>.>
<.<

<3
Poltergeist-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden336 Posts
June 15 2012 11:13 GMT
#1405
On June 15 2012 20:11 Shock710 wrote:
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On June 15 2012 20:08 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:08 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:07 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:06 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:05 HaXXspetten wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:05 KristofferAG wrote:
I'm hungry.

I has tortellini, omnom

Prick


I has Doritos and lemonade :3

Thought your job was to make me happy :<

You can have some

Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 20:08 HaXXspetten wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:08 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:07 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:06 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:05 HaXXspetten wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:05 KristofferAG wrote:
I'm hungry.

I has tortellini, omnom

Prick


I has Doritos and lemonade :3

Thought your job was to make me happy :<

In a... sexual way?

can i have some....in a sexual way


+ Show Spoiler +
can i has some too?
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
June 15 2012 11:13 GMT
#1406
On June 15 2012 20:11 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 20:10 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:09 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:08 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:08 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:07 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:06 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:05 HaXXspetten wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:05 KristofferAG wrote:
I'm hungry.

I has tortellini, omnom

Prick


I has Doritos and lemonade :3

Thought your job was to make me happy :<

You can have some

I'll remember that for when I got to Britland =D


TL LR MEETING FOR MOVIE NIGHT AND LEMONADE

fuck yeah

We should have a TL meetup somewhere in Europe with lemonade and a Disneyfilm marathon


This clearly has to happen.

On June 15 2012 20:11 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 20:10 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:09 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:08 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:08 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:07 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:06 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:05 HaXXspetten wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:05 KristofferAG wrote:
I'm hungry.

I has tortellini, omnom

Prick


I has Doritos and lemonade :3

Thought your job was to make me happy :<

You can have some

I'll remember that for when I got to Britland =D


TL LR MEETING FOR MOVIE NIGHT AND LEMONADE

fuck yeah

Best party ever.

unless some of the balance whiners join in while we're watching Land Before Time, whining about T. Rex being OP.


Np, we'll use real hammer as opposed to ban hammers
"These guys are mindfucking me into a sex coma" | "Mayonnaise is a must-have lubricant when performing necrophilia"
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 11:14:38
June 15 2012 11:13 GMT
#1407
On June 15 2012 20:12 HolyArrow wrote:
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On June 15 2012 20:10 rothsbury wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:09 Dodgin wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:07 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:05 Dodgin wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:04 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:02 Mackus wrote:
On June 15 2012 19:52 Fubi wrote:
On June 15 2012 19:49 Xcobidoo wrote:
On June 15 2012 19:48 Mackus wrote:
Correct me on this but there hasnt been a single Terran win this GSTL having MKP, Byun and MVP involved?

Only Jjakji has won so far I'm pretty sure...

Nope... 0 Terran win in TvZ so far in GSTL


I meant in general but Jjakji in a TvP is the only Terran win so far this tournament which is pretty bad race representation wise

Doesn't matter, in GSL only one zerg got through. Nestea.


Curious got smacked down by Seed, not a terran. and Line is Line. wait for the good zergs to play next week before passing any judgements on that.

Yeah? GSTL is famous for not being representative of a player's skill then. MVP and nestea suck in it, I don't see why people are passing judgement on it, its more like they want to prove something.


I dunno man 0-12 tvz seems like a problem not related to skill seeing as how mvp mkp and mma all lost to zergs.

You got to give the TvZ match-up time. Prepatch terrans just went reactor fac hellions 95% of the time, and they've only had a month to adapt to the increased queen range. They'll figure it out much better and you'll see TvZ improve. Too often in SC2 people see one race temporarily weaker (like the 111 vs protoss) and assume it's because of fundamental imbalance, when a lot of the time you can solve the problem by giving the players time to figure out a solution.


1-1-1 vs. Protoss is a bad example to use because Protoss was buffed in response to that xD

It was just +1 immortal range though; I think the biggest help was that they got better at it. And I think they would have even without immortal patch (e.g. by proper positioning of units. Too often even top protosses would just 1a everything, so the immortals and zealots would be at the back not doing anything).

Also seeing as that was patched (unnecessarily imo) I think Blizzard falls into the same way of thinking; that you have to constantly patch to fix perceived imbalance (like the queen buff in the last patch was not necessary). They should also step back and give things time.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 15 2012 11:13 GMT
#1408
On June 15 2012 20:11 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 20:10 jmbthirteen wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:04 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:02 Mackus wrote:
On June 15 2012 19:52 Fubi wrote:
On June 15 2012 19:49 Xcobidoo wrote:
On June 15 2012 19:48 Mackus wrote:
Correct me on this but there hasnt been a single Terran win this GSTL having MKP, Byun and MVP involved?

Only Jjakji has won so far I'm pretty sure...

Nope... 0 Terran win in TvZ so far in GSTL


I meant in general but Jjakji in a TvP is the only Terran win so far this tournament which is pretty bad race representation wise

Doesn't matter, in GSL only one zerg got through. Nestea. People seem to focus so much on GSTL records, that they forgot there are already 4 terrans through to Ro16.


one of 3 zergs have gone through. 3 of 7 Terrans have gone through.

And the terran's losses were to protoss except one terran who was knocked out by nestea.

and the zergs losses were to protoss except for Line, who was regarded as the weakest player in code S. And one of line's losses was to MVP.
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Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
June 15 2012 11:14 GMT
#1409
On June 15 2012 20:07 MentalGNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 20:04 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:02 Mackus wrote:
On June 15 2012 19:52 Fubi wrote:
On June 15 2012 19:49 Xcobidoo wrote:
On June 15 2012 19:48 Mackus wrote:
Correct me on this but there hasnt been a single Terran win this GSTL having MKP, Byun and MVP involved?

Only Jjakji has won so far I'm pretty sure...

Nope... 0 Terran win in TvZ so far in GSTL


I meant in general but Jjakji in a TvP is the only Terran win so far this tournament which is pretty bad race representation wise

Doesn't matter, in GSL only one zerg got through. Nestea. People seem to focus so much on GSTL records, that they forgot there are already 4 terrans through to Ro16.

Only 3 zergs have played though (as far as I remember) and one of them was arguably the weakest player to reach Code S in recent seasons (Line). Right now all the progamers, even zergs, seem to agree that zerg is the strongest race right now.


Agreed, even DRG in his post-MLG interview let slip that the Queen range was too good of a buff in ZvT - He didn't word it that way but you dont need a psychiatrist to work out what he meant

It's not good to call for buffs based of 1 tournament but when Terrans are sucking globally - I don't even think a single foreign Terran made it past the Open bracket at MLG but there was 8 Zergs - plenty of them foreign in the championship bracket (losers bracket included) - there's something wrong.
ZeroSCII
Profile Joined June 2012
Korea (South)13 Posts
June 15 2012 11:14 GMT
#1410
Poll: Just invite Moon straight into Code S?

Not do (31)
 
65%

DO ! (17)
 
35%

48 total votes

Your vote: Just invite Moon straight into Code S?

(Vote): DO !
(Vote): Not do

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LikeAG6
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia74 Posts
June 15 2012 11:14 GMT
#1411
What was that song that was just playing? Violins/rock
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity"
dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
June 15 2012 11:14 GMT
#1412
About an hour late to the party, but has Byun gone back to calling himself Byun rather than GhostKing?
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 11:15:21
June 15 2012 11:14 GMT
#1413
On June 15 2012 20:13 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 20:12 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:10 rothsbury wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:09 Dodgin wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:07 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:05 Dodgin wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:04 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:02 Mackus wrote:
On June 15 2012 19:52 Fubi wrote:
On June 15 2012 19:49 Xcobidoo wrote:
[quote]
Only Jjakji has won so far I'm pretty sure...

Nope... 0 Terran win in TvZ so far in GSTL


I meant in general but Jjakji in a TvP is the only Terran win so far this tournament which is pretty bad race representation wise

Doesn't matter, in GSL only one zerg got through. Nestea.


Curious got smacked down by Seed, not a terran. and Line is Line. wait for the good zergs to play next week before passing any judgements on that.

Yeah? GSTL is famous for not being representative of a player's skill then. MVP and nestea suck in it, I don't see why people are passing judgement on it, its more like they want to prove something.


I dunno man 0-12 tvz seems like a problem not related to skill seeing as how mvp mkp and mma all lost to zergs.

You got to give the TvZ match-up time. Prepatch terrans just went reactor fac hellions 95% of the time, and they've only had a month to adapt to the increased queen range. They'll figure it out much better and you'll see TvZ improve. Too often in SC2 people see one race temporarily weaker (like the 111 vs protoss) and assume it's because of fundamental imbalance, when a lot of the time you can solve the problem by giving the players time to figure out a solution.


1-1-1 vs. Protoss is a bad example to use because Protoss was buffed in response to that xD

I still don't get how the immortal range was a buff for the 111 though. Its pretty funny that they buff the observers after so long. I thought that would be the logical thing to vs the 1-1-1

It allowed Immortals to shoot tanks easier..?
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
June 15 2012 11:14 GMT
#1414
On June 15 2012 20:13 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 20:12 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:10 rothsbury wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:09 Dodgin wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:07 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:05 Dodgin wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:04 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:02 Mackus wrote:
On June 15 2012 19:52 Fubi wrote:
On June 15 2012 19:49 Xcobidoo wrote:
[quote]
Only Jjakji has won so far I'm pretty sure...

Nope... 0 Terran win in TvZ so far in GSTL


I meant in general but Jjakji in a TvP is the only Terran win so far this tournament which is pretty bad race representation wise

Doesn't matter, in GSL only one zerg got through. Nestea.


Curious got smacked down by Seed, not a terran. and Line is Line. wait for the good zergs to play next week before passing any judgements on that.

Yeah? GSTL is famous for not being representative of a player's skill then. MVP and nestea suck in it, I don't see why people are passing judgement on it, its more like they want to prove something.


I dunno man 0-12 tvz seems like a problem not related to skill seeing as how mvp mkp and mma all lost to zergs.

You got to give the TvZ match-up time. Prepatch terrans just went reactor fac hellions 95% of the time, and they've only had a month to adapt to the increased queen range. They'll figure it out much better and you'll see TvZ improve. Too often in SC2 people see one race temporarily weaker (like the 111 vs protoss) and assume it's because of fundamental imbalance, when a lot of the time you can solve the problem by giving the players time to figure out a solution.


1-1-1 vs. Protoss is a bad example to use because Protoss was buffed in response to that xD

I still don't get how the immortal range was a buff for the 111 though. Its pretty funny that they buff the observers after so long. I thought that would be the logical thing to vs the 1-1-1


Because you can hit seige tanks from further away? Lol.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
June 15 2012 11:15 GMT
#1415
On June 15 2012 20:13 KristofferAG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 20:12 Shock710 wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:11 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:10 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:09 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:08 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:08 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:07 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:06 KristofferAG wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:05 HaXXspetten wrote:
[quote]
I has tortellini, omnom

Prick


I has Doritos and lemonade :3

Thought your job was to make me happy :<

You can have some

I'll remember that for when I got to Britland =D


TL LR MEETING FOR MOVIE NIGHT AND LEMONADE

fuck yeah

Best party ever.

unless some of the balance whiners join in while we're watching Land Before Time, whining about T. Rex being OP.

i have the entire thing, but u kinda need a vcr to play it, lol
I have one. Thought all decent people had a VCR lying around. :>

is it connected to ur tv, or boxed up in a garage like mine
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Lazzi
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1923 Posts
June 15 2012 11:15 GMT
#1416
On June 15 2012 20:13 rothsbury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 20:12 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:10 rothsbury wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:09 Dodgin wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:07 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:05 Dodgin wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:04 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:02 Mackus wrote:
On June 15 2012 19:52 Fubi wrote:
On June 15 2012 19:49 Xcobidoo wrote:
[quote]
Only Jjakji has won so far I'm pretty sure...

Nope... 0 Terran win in TvZ so far in GSTL


I meant in general but Jjakji in a TvP is the only Terran win so far this tournament which is pretty bad race representation wise

Doesn't matter, in GSL only one zerg got through. Nestea.


Curious got smacked down by Seed, not a terran. and Line is Line. wait for the good zergs to play next week before passing any judgements on that.

Yeah? GSTL is famous for not being representative of a player's skill then. MVP and nestea suck in it, I don't see why people are passing judgement on it, its more like they want to prove something.


I dunno man 0-12 tvz seems like a problem not related to skill seeing as how mvp mkp and mma all lost to zergs.

You got to give the TvZ match-up time. Prepatch terrans just went reactor fac hellions 95% of the time, and they've only had a month to adapt to the increased queen range. They'll figure it out much better and you'll see TvZ improve. Too often in SC2 people see one race temporarily weaker (like the 111 vs protoss) and assume it's because of fundamental imbalance, when a lot of the time you can solve the problem by giving the players time to figure out a solution.


1-1-1 vs. Protoss is a bad example to use because Protoss was buffed in response to that xD

It was just +1 immortal range though; I think the biggest help was that they got better at it. And I think they would have even without immortal patch (e.g. by proper positioning of units. Too often even top protosses would just 1a everything, so the immortals and zealots would be at the back not doing anything).

+1 immoartal range is awesome since they don't need to be in front of stalker in order ti shoot.
It's good to be back
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
June 15 2012 11:15 GMT
#1417
On June 15 2012 20:14 dainbramage wrote:
About an hour late to the party, but has Byun gone back to calling himself Byun rather than GhostKing?


Correct!
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ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
June 15 2012 11:15 GMT
#1418
On June 15 2012 20:14 Jono7272 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 20:13 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:12 HolyArrow wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:10 rothsbury wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:09 Dodgin wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:07 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:05 Dodgin wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:04 ImNightmare wrote:
On June 15 2012 20:02 Mackus wrote:
On June 15 2012 19:52 Fubi wrote:
[quote]
Nope... 0 Terran win in TvZ so far in GSTL


I meant in general but Jjakji in a TvP is the only Terran win so far this tournament which is pretty bad race representation wise

Doesn't matter, in GSL only one zerg got through. Nestea.


Curious got smacked down by Seed, not a terran. and Line is Line. wait for the good zergs to play next week before passing any judgements on that.

Yeah? GSTL is famous for not being representative of a player's skill then. MVP and nestea suck in it, I don't see why people are passing judgement on it, its more like they want to prove something.


I dunno man 0-12 tvz seems like a problem not related to skill seeing as how mvp mkp and mma all lost to zergs.

You got to give the TvZ match-up time. Prepatch terrans just went reactor fac hellions 95% of the time, and they've only had a month to adapt to the increased queen range. They'll figure it out much better and you'll see TvZ improve. Too often in SC2 people see one race temporarily weaker (like the 111 vs protoss) and assume it's because of fundamental imbalance, when a lot of the time you can solve the problem by giving the players time to figure out a solution.


1-1-1 vs. Protoss is a bad example to use because Protoss was buffed in response to that xD

I still don't get how the immortal range was a buff for the 111 though. Its pretty funny that they buff the observers after so long. I thought that would be the logical thing to vs the 1-1-1

Right. You can't see how a range buff is a buff..

for the 1/1/1 you doughnut. read properly
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
June 15 2012 11:15 GMT
#1419
On June 15 2012 20:14 ZeroSCII wrote:
Poll: Just invite Moon straight into Code S?

Not do (31)
 
65%

DO ! (17)
 
35%

48 total votes

Your vote: Just invite Moon straight into Code S?

(Vote): DO !
(Vote): Not do



I voted no purely becaue the invites have a baseline for how they are decided (foreign events) and Moon hasnt had sucess at any of those.
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
June 15 2012 11:15 GMT
#1420
He howled! YES!
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
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