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On July 02 2012 00:48 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Fortunately I already hated Naniwa so him being an asshole as usual only makes me dislike him more.
Perhaps if he wasn't such an illiterate tool he would realise that spots are allocated based on total number of players from the region not on the whim of some random pro who wasn't won anything that matters since MLG Dallas.
It might also interest Naniwa to consider that if this tournament were truly based on representation amongst top skilled players there would be 31 spots for Korea and 1 spot for everyone else and seen as there are many players of the Zerg race outside of Korea he would surely find himself nowhere near the finals of this tournament.
Ouch haha. I actually agree that Nani's reaction is retarded, but its clear he doesn't understand what an event like this means to the UK scene. Its probably more ignorance on his part (a common theme with him) than anything else. This is the most excited people have ever been about UK sc2 outside of Demuslim/Bling, and we have lots of awesome players who are doing well in events without the financial backing players like Nani enjoy. Can't see anything wrong with that.
And someone should remind him that Bling 6-0'd his group at WCG and took a game of MvP where as the Swedish players failed to get past the group stages. UK players are not as bad as he's making out.
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On July 02 2012 00:56 Shewklad wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 00:53 monkh wrote:On July 02 2012 00:44 FuzzyJAM wrote:On July 02 2012 00:41 monkh wrote:johan lucchesi
omg how can this country have same amount of spots as sweden.. unreal T_T
Naniwa just tweeted. I hope recco/zik gets opportunity to put him in his place Sweden is clearly a much better country overall for SC2 so he has a point. On July 02 2012 00:47 Kevan wrote:On July 02 2012 00:45 rasnj wrote:On July 02 2012 00:41 monkh wrote:johan lucchesi @QuanticNaNi
omg how can this country have same amount of spots as sweden.. unreal T_T @wcs
Naniwa just tweeted. I hope recco/zik gets opportunity to put him in his place TBH there is something to it. I feel the brits really surprised and are putting on a great display, but almost everyone predicted this to be bling + demu + random, while sweden has quite a heavy lineup in Naniwa, thorzain, jinro, morrow, lalush, haypro, cytoplasm, sjow, seiplo, merz, bischu, plus surprise randoms. Did you not mention Sase? He is good enough to atleast be mentioned in my opinion.  Sweden has strong esports pressense unlike UK and all thos players you listed from Sweden all are known players on top teams. WCS seems to be about bringing unknown talent to light I would say Sweden doesn't deserve spots because Sweden has dreamhacks, gather'ings and a lot of eyes looking at Swedish talent, that a lot of talent in other countries are getting missed Wait what? Sweden doesn't deserve WCS spots because we host other tournaments, helping grow esports? You are so clever.
You don't deserve it because it's based on the number of players playing the game total, not based on pro players.
If you think that's unfair that's cool.
But in that case the tournament should be 31 Koreans 1 foreigner or at best 27 Koreans and 5 foreigners.
Either it's based on pure merit in which case it's basically a Korean only tournament or it's the same affirmative action style used here, at IEM, MLG etc.. you don't get it both ways.
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On July 02 2012 01:00 Kaitokid wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 00:53 monkh wrote:On July 02 2012 00:44 FuzzyJAM wrote:On July 02 2012 00:41 monkh wrote:johan lucchesi
omg how can this country have same amount of spots as sweden.. unreal T_T
Naniwa just tweeted. I hope recco/zik gets opportunity to put him in his place Sweden is clearly a much better country overall for SC2 so he has a point. On July 02 2012 00:47 Kevan wrote:On July 02 2012 00:45 rasnj wrote:On July 02 2012 00:41 monkh wrote:johan lucchesi @QuanticNaNi
omg how can this country have same amount of spots as sweden.. unreal T_T @wcs
Naniwa just tweeted. I hope recco/zik gets opportunity to put him in his place TBH there is something to it. I feel the brits really surprised and are putting on a great display, but almost everyone predicted this to be bling + demu + random, while sweden has quite a heavy lineup in Naniwa, thorzain, jinro, morrow, lalush, haypro, cytoplasm, sjow, seiplo, merz, bischu, plus surprise randoms. Did you not mention Sase? He is good enough to atleast be mentioned in my opinion. Sweden has strong esports pressense unlike UK and all thos players you listed from Sweden all are known players on top teams. WCS seems to be about bringing unknown talent to light I would say Sweden doesn't deserve spots because Sweden has dreamhacks, gather'ings and a lot of eyes looking at Swedish talent, that a lot of talent in other countries are getting missed the Gathering is in Norway... also unknown players are unknown for a reason most of the time.... I can also tell you that Zikto isn't that good actually, he probably just handles the situation very well and doesn't have any issues playing live in front of many people. JRecco is a much better player overall compared to Ziktomini. Sweden also has rather unknown players who are really good, someone who comes to mind is SortOf. Its actually harder to get noticed as a swedish player because they have so many good players.
Do not discount the mental aspect of competition. The ability to control your nerves and play calmly is as much an important skill as marine splitting.
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I think the Naniwa thing also comes out of some discussion off of Nani's twitter the other day about direct seeds and stuff like that that he was unhappy with. Not sure about the details but it's probably the backdrop to why he's bitching about the seeds 
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On July 02 2012 00:56 Shewklad wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 00:53 monkh wrote:On July 02 2012 00:44 FuzzyJAM wrote:On July 02 2012 00:41 monkh wrote:johan lucchesi
omg how can this country have same amount of spots as sweden.. unreal T_T
Naniwa just tweeted. I hope recco/zik gets opportunity to put him in his place Sweden is clearly a much better country overall for SC2 so he has a point. On July 02 2012 00:47 Kevan wrote:On July 02 2012 00:45 rasnj wrote:On July 02 2012 00:41 monkh wrote:johan lucchesi @QuanticNaNi
omg how can this country have same amount of spots as sweden.. unreal T_T @wcs
Naniwa just tweeted. I hope recco/zik gets opportunity to put him in his place TBH there is something to it. I feel the brits really surprised and are putting on a great display, but almost everyone predicted this to be bling + demu + random, while sweden has quite a heavy lineup in Naniwa, thorzain, jinro, morrow, lalush, haypro, cytoplasm, sjow, seiplo, merz, bischu, plus surprise randoms. Did you not mention Sase? He is good enough to atleast be mentioned in my opinion. Sweden has strong esports pressense unlike UK and all thos players you listed from Sweden all are known players on top teams. WCS seems to be about bringing unknown talent to light I would say Sweden doesn't deserve spots because Sweden has dreamhacks, gather'ings and a lot of eyes looking at Swedish talent, that a lot of talent in other countries are getting missed Wait what? Sweden doesn't deserve WCS spots because we host other tournaments, helping grow esports? You are so clever.
I meant to say doesn't deserve extra spots considering capital Sweden has going into there players currently which other country's could use the recco's and ziktomini's of france and other countrys
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On July 02 2012 00:41 monkh wrote:Show nested quote +johan lucchesi @QuanticNaNi
omg how can this country have same amount of spots as sweden.. unreal T_T @wcs
Naniwa just tweeted. I hope recco/zik gets opportunity to put him in his place
Sure, because one guy, that 99% of TL never heard off, beating another guy, who wasn't posting results, but is on a highly known team, will surely put him in his place...
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On July 02 2012 01:02 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 00:56 Shewklad wrote:On July 02 2012 00:53 monkh wrote:On July 02 2012 00:44 FuzzyJAM wrote:On July 02 2012 00:41 monkh wrote:johan lucchesi
omg how can this country have same amount of spots as sweden.. unreal T_T
Naniwa just tweeted. I hope recco/zik gets opportunity to put him in his place Sweden is clearly a much better country overall for SC2 so he has a point. On July 02 2012 00:47 Kevan wrote:On July 02 2012 00:45 rasnj wrote:On July 02 2012 00:41 monkh wrote:johan lucchesi @QuanticNaNi
omg how can this country have same amount of spots as sweden.. unreal T_T @wcs
Naniwa just tweeted. I hope recco/zik gets opportunity to put him in his place TBH there is something to it. I feel the brits really surprised and are putting on a great display, but almost everyone predicted this to be bling + demu + random, while sweden has quite a heavy lineup in Naniwa, thorzain, jinro, morrow, lalush, haypro, cytoplasm, sjow, seiplo, merz, bischu, plus surprise randoms. Did you not mention Sase? He is good enough to atleast be mentioned in my opinion. Sweden has strong esports pressense unlike UK and all thos players you listed from Sweden all are known players on top teams. WCS seems to be about bringing unknown talent to light I would say Sweden doesn't deserve spots because Sweden has dreamhacks, gather'ings and a lot of eyes looking at Swedish talent, that a lot of talent in other countries are getting missed Wait what? Sweden doesn't deserve WCS spots because we host other tournaments, helping grow esports? You are so clever. You don't deserve it because it's based on the number of players playing the game total, not based on pro players. If you think that's unfair that's cool. But in that case the tournament should be 31 Koreans 1 foreigner or at best 27 Koreans and 5 foreigners. Either it's based on pure merit in which case it's basically a Korean only tournament or it's the same affirmative action style used here, at IEM, MLG etc.. you don't get it both ways.
That's not what I'm saying, maybe if you acctualy read what I said, you would see that the only thing I reacted to is his argument that Sweden doesn't deserve spots because we host other tournaments.
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On July 02 2012 01:01 rasnj wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 00:56 Rhaegar_tar wrote:On July 02 2012 00:53 monkh wrote:On July 02 2012 00:44 FuzzyJAM wrote:On July 02 2012 00:41 monkh wrote:johan lucchesi
omg how can this country have same amount of spots as sweden.. unreal T_T
Naniwa just tweeted. I hope recco/zik gets opportunity to put him in his place Sweden is clearly a much better country overall for SC2 so he has a point. On July 02 2012 00:47 Kevan wrote:On July 02 2012 00:45 rasnj wrote:On July 02 2012 00:41 monkh wrote:johan lucchesi @QuanticNaNi
omg how can this country have same amount of spots as sweden.. unreal T_T @wcs
Naniwa just tweeted. I hope recco/zik gets opportunity to put him in his place TBH there is something to it. I feel the brits really surprised and are putting on a great display, but almost everyone predicted this to be bling + demu + random, while sweden has quite a heavy lineup in Naniwa, thorzain, jinro, morrow, lalush, haypro, cytoplasm, sjow, seiplo, merz, bischu, plus surprise randoms. Did you not mention Sase? He is good enough to atleast be mentioned in my opinion. Sweden has strong esports pressense unlike UK and all thos players you listed from Sweden all are known players on top teams. WCS seems to be about bringing unknown talent to light I would say Sweden doesn't deserve spots because Sweden has dreamhacks, gather'ings and a lot of eyes looking at Swedish talent, that a lot of talent in other countries are getting missed And tbh JRecco and Zikto are much better than half of the swedish people he listed I think that is questionable, but even if that was the case that would leave at least 6 swedish players better than 2 of the uk top 3. I think the UK is delivering, and there are other nations with much more questionable talent, but if it was based on merit the UK should not get as many spots as Sweden.
If it were based on merit Korea would get almost all the spots. You don't get to pick and chose when you think affirmative action is a good idea.
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Gonna be hard for Demuslim to win 2 BO3s I think.
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On July 02 2012 01:02 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 00:56 Shewklad wrote:On July 02 2012 00:53 monkh wrote:On July 02 2012 00:44 FuzzyJAM wrote:On July 02 2012 00:41 monkh wrote:johan lucchesi
omg how can this country have same amount of spots as sweden.. unreal T_T
Naniwa just tweeted. I hope recco/zik gets opportunity to put him in his place Sweden is clearly a much better country overall for SC2 so he has a point. On July 02 2012 00:47 Kevan wrote:On July 02 2012 00:45 rasnj wrote:On July 02 2012 00:41 monkh wrote:johan lucchesi @QuanticNaNi
omg how can this country have same amount of spots as sweden.. unreal T_T @wcs
Naniwa just tweeted. I hope recco/zik gets opportunity to put him in his place TBH there is something to it. I feel the brits really surprised and are putting on a great display, but almost everyone predicted this to be bling + demu + random, while sweden has quite a heavy lineup in Naniwa, thorzain, jinro, morrow, lalush, haypro, cytoplasm, sjow, seiplo, merz, bischu, plus surprise randoms. Did you not mention Sase? He is good enough to atleast be mentioned in my opinion. Sweden has strong esports pressense unlike UK and all thos players you listed from Sweden all are known players on top teams. WCS seems to be about bringing unknown talent to light I would say Sweden doesn't deserve spots because Sweden has dreamhacks, gather'ings and a lot of eyes looking at Swedish talent, that a lot of talent in other countries are getting missed Wait what? Sweden doesn't deserve WCS spots because we host other tournaments, helping grow esports? You are so clever. You don't deserve it because it's based on the number of players playing the game total, not based on pro players. If you think that's unfair that's cool. But in that case the tournament should be 31 Koreans 1 foreigner or at best 27 Koreans and 5 foreigners. Either it's based on pure merit in which case it's basically a Korean only tournament or it's the same affirmative action style used here, at IEM, MLG etc.. you don't get it both ways.
Thank god you have to choose between these two and not come up with something different. That would be awkward.
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This announcer is great, who is this guy and why isn't he everywhere?
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I'm stoked for this.
DeMusliM fightiiiiiing!
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Wow... Blizzard injecting a lot of money
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Was that 60k for first place or 60k prize pool, for global wcg
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On July 02 2012 01:07 n.DieJokes wrote:
This announcer is great, who is this guy and why isn't he everywhere?
Its redeye, been in the fps scene since forever
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On July 02 2012 01:08 Reaps wrote:
Was that 60k for first place or 60k prize pool, for global wcg
60k prizepool for European Championship in Stockholm.
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EPT
