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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18355 Posts
June 12 2012 13:03 GMT
#2861
On June 12 2012 21:59 BackSideAttack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 21:54 Zealously wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:53 BackSideAttack wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:49 Dodgin wrote:
hopefully people will shut up about naniwa not being deserving of code S making it past the first round 2 seasons in a row now.


You realize even if you are the best player in the world, you still wouldn't "deserve" a seed. Spots in Code S are meant to be earned through qualification, not because your a foreigner.


Which evidently means that he deserved his Code S spot this season.


I don't think you understand my post. Just because your Code S caliber, doesn't mean you deserve to be seeded into Code S, especially if you've been given multiple seeds already and have chosen to live in Korea for the long term.

His point was that Nani wasn't seeded this season: he earned it based on last season's results (Ro8 stays in Code S).

Anyway, you're wrong. Gom has clearly changed the rules: they choose 2 people from around the world who they feel deserve to have a shot at Code S. You can cry and say that's unfair, but that is the rules. According to GomTV one of the ones who deserved a shot at Code S was Naniwa (and I agree thoroughly: he even earned it at MLG Providence). He has clearly shown he can hold his own there over the run of 2 seasons, something very few people can do: Sen and IdrA got their asses handed to them. In fact, the only 2 other foreigners who have shown they have what it takes to do decently in the GSL are Huk and Jinro, and both have fallen behind the curve recently (or not so recently for Jinro).
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
June 12 2012 13:04 GMT
#2862
For people interested to see how PvP is like in BW the OSL is currently ongoing.
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
June 12 2012 13:04 GMT
#2863
On June 12 2012 22:00 Coal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 21:56 Tarotis wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:56 Sareth wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:52 Coal wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:50 HaXXspetten wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:48 TiTanIum_ wrote:
Anyone that knows swedish, could you tell us what Nani said in the end (if you can read lips, ofc)?

wasn't really watching at that point, sorry


Pretty sure he said '' Das Kleine Geschvunten'' which is german for ''Fuck Yeah''

Whatever the hell thats supposed to mean?^^
I have no Idea what "Geschvunten'' should translate to :o

I don't know neither...:D



Ah, I forgot we have tons of germans watching =( Das Kleine Geschvunten is a term coined by myself (^_^) in attempt to sound german <3 Kleine means small right? I heard rumours about Geschunvten (incorrect spelling) meant something like disappeared?

Just say it ''Das Kleine Geschvunten'' aloud, it just rolls off the tongue, doesn't it? ^_ ^

Nani fighting <3

"klein" means small, yeah
You probably mean "verschwunden" though
Shadow_Dog
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada427 Posts
June 12 2012 13:05 GMT
#2864
NaNiwow! Did not expect that!
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
June 12 2012 13:05 GMT
#2865
On June 12 2012 22:03 nimdil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 21:57 Inflicted_ wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:56 nimdil wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:53 Inflicted_ wrote:
Managed to get the individual matches for Liquibet wrong, but the finals victors (NaNiwa/NesTea) right

You voted that TheSTC > NesTea and Creator > NaNiwa and yet NaNiwa + NesTea will advance? That's impossible to happen. o_O


NaNiwa > Creator game 1.

Ah, my bad

Even so, a good LB vote will maximise the expected score. It's not clear to me that this necessarily implies that the votes must be consistent.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
June 12 2012 13:05 GMT
#2866
On June 12 2012 22:00 Coal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 21:56 Tarotis wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:56 Sareth wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:52 Coal wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:50 HaXXspetten wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:48 TiTanIum_ wrote:
Anyone that knows swedish, could you tell us what Nani said in the end (if you can read lips, ofc)?

wasn't really watching at that point, sorry


Pretty sure he said '' Das Kleine Geschvunten'' which is german for ''Fuck Yeah''

Whatever the hell thats supposed to mean?^^
I have no Idea what "Geschvunten'' should translate to :o

I don't know neither...:D



Ah, I forgot we have tons of germans watching =( Das Kleine Geschvunten is a term coined by myself (^_^) in attempt to sound german <3 Kleine means small right? I heard rumours about Geschunvten (incorrect spelling) meant something like disappeared?

Just say it ''Das Kleine Geschvunten'' aloud, it just rolls off the tongue, doesn't it? ^_ ^

Nani fighting <3


I actually laughed, because I know a little bit of german and never heard of that word. When I looked up on google I found nothing as well.

I wasn't expecting him to say anything, so I didn't record it. T_T
Soma.bokforlag
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden448 Posts
June 12 2012 13:05 GMT
#2867
whos the best foreigner in the world? naniwa or sase? hard one!

great games by nani today!
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
June 12 2012 13:05 GMT
#2868
Nestea is a boss. So happy he advanced. He will catch MVP now!!! And Congratz for Naniwa.
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
June 12 2012 13:05 GMT
#2869
On June 12 2012 22:04 Ysellian wrote:
For people interested to see how PvP is like in BW the OSL is currently ongoing.

And if you're just tuning in now you missed a super sick game.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
June 12 2012 13:05 GMT
#2870
On June 12 2012 22:03 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 21:59 BackSideAttack wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:54 Zealously wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:53 BackSideAttack wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:49 Dodgin wrote:
hopefully people will shut up about naniwa not being deserving of code S making it past the first round 2 seasons in a row now.


You realize even if you are the best player in the world, you still wouldn't "deserve" a seed. Spots in Code S are meant to be earned through qualification, not because your a foreigner.


Which evidently means that he deserved his Code S spot this season.


I don't think you understand my post. Just because your Code S caliber, doesn't mean you deserve to be seeded into Code S, especially if you've been given multiple seeds already and have chosen to live in Korea for the long term.

His point was that Nani wasn't seeded this season: he earned it based on last season's results (Ro8 stays in Code S).

Anyway, you're wrong. Gom has clearly changed the rules: they choose 2 people from around the world who they feel deserve to have a shot at Code S. You can cry and say that's unfair, but that is the rules. According to GomTV one of the ones who deserved a shot at Code S was Naniwa (and I agree thoroughly: he even earned it at MLG Providence). He has clearly shown he can hold his own there over the run of 2 seasons, something very few people can do: Sen and IdrA got their asses handed to them. In fact, the only 2 other foreigners who have shown they have what it takes to do decently in the GSL are Huk and Jinro, and both have fallen behind the curve recently (or not so recently for Jinro).


Idra did as decently in an older Code S as Naniwa did last season so I'm not sure what you're getting at here. HuK has done so as well, and Jinro has done better.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
June 12 2012 13:06 GMT
#2871
On June 12 2012 22:02 RaGnArOkY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 21:59 BackSideAttack wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:54 Zealously wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:53 BackSideAttack wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:49 Dodgin wrote:
hopefully people will shut up about naniwa not being deserving of code S making it past the first round 2 seasons in a row now.


You realize even if you are the best player in the world, you still wouldn't "deserve" a seed. Spots in Code S are meant to be earned through qualification, not because your a foreigner.


Which evidently means that he deserved his Code S spot this season.


I don't think you understand my post. Just because your Code S caliber, doesn't mean you deserve to be seeded into Code S, especially if you've been given multiple seeds already and have chosen to live in Korea for the long term.



I don't think you understand his post, he is saying Naniwa earned his qualification for this GSL and didn't get it from a seed. Anything about last seasons seed doesn't matter.


He is still Code S because of a seed even if he managed to maintain it last season. No one should ever be seeded.
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
June 12 2012 13:06 GMT
#2872
[QUOTE]On June 12 2012 22:00 Coal wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 12 2012 21:56 Tarotis wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 12 2012 21:56 Sareth wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 12 2012 21:52 Coal wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 12 2012 21:50 HaXXspetten wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 12 2012 21:48 TiTanIum_ wrote:
Anyone that knows swedish, could you tell us what Nani said in the end (if you can read lips, ofc)?[/QUOTE]
wasn't really watching at that point, sorry[/QUOTE]

Pretty sure he said '' Das Kleine Geschvunten'' which is german for ''Fuck Yeah''[/QUOTE]
Whatever the hell thats supposed to mean?^^
I have no Idea what "Geschvunten'' should translate to :o[/QUOTE]
I don't know neither...:D[/QUOTE]


Ah, I forgot we have tons of germans watching =( Das Kleine Geschvunten is a term coined by myself (^_^) in attempt to sound german <3 Kleine means small right? I heard rumours about Geschunvten (incorrect spelling) meant something like disappeared?

Just say it ''Das Kleine Geschvunten'' aloud, it just rolls off the tongue, doesn't it? ^_ ^

Nani fighting <3[/QUOTE
Haha nice try :D
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
June 12 2012 13:06 GMT
#2873
On June 12 2012 22:01 KiNGxXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 22:00 Weavel wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:56 KiNGxXx wrote:
[image loading]
Loving that pose. Thanks for the super fast screenshots KiNGxXx.

No problem but this one is actually not from myself. But since redditors are getting free karma for my work I can steal sometimes too I guess.

Throw on a tiny watermark, or hide some tiny text with something like "original reddit content do not steal" or something.
Chenz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1197 Posts
June 12 2012 13:06 GMT
#2874
On June 12 2012 22:01 ArcticRaven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 21:58 hefty wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:53 Zealously wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:53 parker- wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:52 M7Jagger wrote:
Best foreigner, don't understand why people always hype up Stephano

because Stephano > naniwa


When did they last face off in any significant tournament setting?

I don't remember and I look forward to when we get to see that. But I have to agree Stephano is definitely better. Stephano has man-handled plenty of top koreans while NaNi has "just" eeked out some impressive victories. Judging from the relative ease with which they have taken games, Stephano looks better by a fair margin imo.


I don't think a Steph/Nani match would mean anything anyway, since PvZ is Naniwa's worst matchup and ZvP Stephano's best.

That said I believe Stephano to be far superior, both by recent results and watching both's games.

I'd have to agree, and I'm from Sweden
When Naniwa plays his very best, he's on the same level as Stephano, but his average performance would place him slightly below Stephano.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
June 12 2012 13:06 GMT
#2875
On June 12 2012 22:05 Soma.bokforlag wrote:
whos the best foreigner in the world? naniwa or sase? hard one!

great games by nani today!


Stephano is the best foreigner by a mile.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
June 12 2012 13:07 GMT
#2876
Naniwa is fighting bravely in enemy territory, while Stephano holds the ground from invasion in the home country defense. Can't wait until Stephano nydus worms into Korea to see who can hold the title as....... BEST FOREIGNER.

SOLID STEPHANO VERSUS
[image loading]

LIQUID NANILOT
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
June 12 2012 13:08 GMT
#2877
On June 12 2012 22:05 Talionis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 22:04 Ysellian wrote:
For people interested to see how PvP is like in BW the OSL is currently ongoing.

And if you're just tuning in now you missed a super sick game.


yeah you did lol, but you can always re-watch it later.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11087 Posts
June 12 2012 13:08 GMT
#2878
Naniwa fighting! :D Had to wake up early and caught a bit of the last set
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
June 12 2012 13:09 GMT
#2879
On June 12 2012 22:06 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2012 22:02 RaGnArOkY wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:59 BackSideAttack wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:54 Zealously wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:53 BackSideAttack wrote:
On June 12 2012 21:49 Dodgin wrote:
hopefully people will shut up about naniwa not being deserving of code S making it past the first round 2 seasons in a row now.


You realize even if you are the best player in the world, you still wouldn't "deserve" a seed. Spots in Code S are meant to be earned through qualification, not because your a foreigner.


Which evidently means that he deserved his Code S spot this season.


I don't think you understand my post. Just because your Code S caliber, doesn't mean you deserve to be seeded into Code S, especially if you've been given multiple seeds already and have chosen to live in Korea for the long term.



I don't think you understand his post, he is saying Naniwa earned his qualification for this GSL and didn't get it from a seed. Anything about last seasons seed doesn't matter.


He is still Code S because of a seed even if he managed to maintain it last season. No one should ever be seeded.

Naniwa earned his code S seed in the same way Thorzain did and Violet did which is by doing well at foreign events. Every major foreign event now is basically like playing in Code A. This is also why you noticed a few non code S level players being sent to MLG (MVP sending there 3, Alicia who might be in line for next one). So to say they are just being handed out is wrong, they are being earned albeit in a different format than winning in Ro24 or winning in up/down.
JohnMatrix
Profile Joined April 2011
France1358 Posts
June 12 2012 13:11 GMT
#2880
On June 12 2012 22:05 Soma.bokforlag wrote:
whos the best foreigner in the world? naniwa or sase? hard one!

great games by nani today!


sase ?

socke>drg so lol
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