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On June 10 2012 17:19 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 17:18 Clafou wrote:Hey guys, didn't catch the kespa games... What about the level of players? Is there any VOD of this?  Thanks. The level of the players was Flash >>> SoulKey >= the rest.
Ahah seriously? :D
What about Flash's level compared to ACE sc2 players in the PL tournament?
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On June 10 2012 17:19 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 17:18 Clafou wrote:Hey guys, didn't catch the kespa games... What about the level of players? Is there any VOD of this? Thanks. The level of the players was Flash >>> SoulKey >= the rest.
JD looked really good ZvT too, but ZvP... yea
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On June 10 2012 17:18 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 17:14 SimDawg wrote:On June 10 2012 17:10 whiterabbit wrote:On June 10 2012 17:07 SimDawg wrote:On June 10 2012 17:05 NEOtheONE wrote:On June 10 2012 17:04 SimDawg wrote:
Cheer for him you losers. Man that crowd sucks. It's 1 am there and they've been there all day, cut them some slack. Its 4AM here and I made more noise in front of my computer. Even Tasteless is begging them to do something. They're horrible. Spend 20 bucks to go to an event and you're screwing yourselves when you're not making it as epic as it could be. Imagine a great crowd, that moment could be something we remember ala Thorzain and Dreamhack, and you could say you were there and a part of it. Now, what? Crappy crowd and a moment that is forgotten. Pretty nice to whine from comfort of your home while those people probably watched 10 hours of SC2 before that final game. Is it so exhausting and mind numbing to watch SC2 from a chair? Am I being unreasonable for them to actually try and make that moment something special? Have you ever been to a day long concert? It's not like people can't cheer after 8 hours of being awake. They're just lame. :/ Ummm 14 hours of being at an event is exhausting dude. They were all going around playing HotS, getting autographs, and tons of other stuff after a late night from day 1. Stop whining that the crowd wasn't going insane after a terrible game (Flash outclassed Bisu pretty badly).
Okay, I'm not out just yet.
Why do the games need to be amazing? People were aware these guys aren't the best in the game yet. It was the event, the spectacle, the (supposed) atmosphere that was the entire hype. How good the games were should not have effected the crowd.
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On June 10 2012 17:19 dmnum wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 17:17 ZenithM wrote:On June 10 2012 17:14 [17]Purple wrote:On June 10 2012 17:11 Sepnova wrote:
Hopefully next event they have a mix bracket of 16 players. The same 8 Kespa, 4 community players (Idra, InControl etc), and 4 top tier players (MKP, MVP, Nestea, etc). Hahahaha... Are you fucking serious? Community players, they have been relegated to that title now? Lol you think he's trolling because he called them that? I was shocked he dared mentioning Incontrol's name next to players of high caliber. :D My question is, if they are community players, who is troy and who is abed?
and who's pierce?
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On June 10 2012 17:14 Talin wrote:
The God thing was annoying in BW forums, now we're getting a taste of how much more annoying it will be in SC2 ones. =/
I actually agree. His other nicknames are better and more meaningful too.
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On June 10 2012 17:19 mango_destroyer wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 17:14 jmbthirteen wrote:On June 10 2012 17:12 Tantaburs wrote:On June 10 2012 17:10 Sea_Food wrote:On June 10 2012 17:08 Sepnova wrote:On June 10 2012 17:05 KonohaFlash wrote:On June 10 2012 17:04 ssg wrote:
Rigged? I hope you're joking. Saying stuff like this is serious. I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually. Yeah, actually they were just pretending to play there, and grubby played backstage with bisus account, idra played with JD account, and thorzain with flash account. In a Tourney with no prize pool which is mainly there to get MLG viewers and KeSPA players foriegn exposure i would not doubt that they staged a finals. I wouldn;t be upset if they did either this was a publicity tourney nothing more if the tournament were staged, it would have been Flash vs Jaedong. wtf is wrong with you people. Always so quick to say something is rigged or staged. Just like Blizzcon. MVP says that was his most meaningful win and people still think it was fixed. I know its so incredibly annoying, people calling everything rigged these days and throwing it around lightly. People need to get their BS conspiracy theories outta here.
Just hit the report button.
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On June 10 2012 17:19 sertman wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 17:14 SimDawg wrote:On June 10 2012 17:10 whiterabbit wrote:On June 10 2012 17:07 SimDawg wrote:On June 10 2012 17:05 NEOtheONE wrote:On June 10 2012 17:04 SimDawg wrote:
Cheer for him you losers. Man that crowd sucks. It's 1 am there and they've been there all day, cut them some slack. Its 4AM here and I made more noise in front of my computer. Even Tasteless is begging them to do something. They're horrible. Spend 20 bucks to go to an event and you're screwing yourselves when you're not making it as epic as it could be. Imagine a great crowd, that moment could be something we remember ala Thorzain and Dreamhack, and you could say you were there and a part of it. Now, what? Crappy crowd and a moment that is forgotten. Pretty nice to whine from comfort of your home while those people probably watched 10 hours of SC2 before that final game. Is it so exhausting and mind numbing to watch SC2 from a chair? Am I being unreasonable for them to actually try and make that moment something special? Have you ever been to a day long concert? It's not like people can't cheer after 8 hours of being awake. They're just lame. :/ being at an MLG is fucking exhausting, you spend most of the time walking around the huuuuge venue watching games (standing room), getting free unlimited dr pepper, visiting the sponsor sections, and so on. plus anyone is going to be tired after being awake for 15-16 hours, most of it in a high energy public venue. if you've never been to one you have zero perspective on what it's like, utterly useless
this is true i was at the last mlg anaheim from around 9am to 1am on saturday its really exhausting
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the last game of the day kind of sucked unfortunately...
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On June 10 2012 17:19 [17]Purple wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 17:17 ZenithM wrote:On June 10 2012 17:14 [17]Purple wrote:On June 10 2012 17:11 Sepnova wrote:
Hopefully next event they have a mix bracket of 16 players. The same 8 Kespa, 4 community players (Idra, InControl etc), and 4 top tier players (MKP, MVP, Nestea, etc). Hahahaha... Are you fucking serious? Community players, they have been relegated to that title now? Lol you think he's trolling because he called them that? I was shocked he dared mentioning Incontrol's name next to players of high caliber. :D The mere reasons for actually trying to invite them "community players" just sounded so demeaning to Idra and InControl but also so appropriate.
That's well put. It would be so BM to invite them with this pretext...
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I'm actually laughing at people think they rigged it. Did they make it so the best possible combinations could happen? Of course. It's not like they seeded these players or anything; this was a hype tournament. They tried to get the bracket as exciting as it possibly could be.
But as for actually influencing results? Korean's and Brood War people take anything even resembling match fixing extremely seriously. Coca and Byun are great examples of what even minor shit does. No way in hell they rig a tournament even without a prize pool. Flash played better than we've been seeing out of the Proleague, but otherwise the players played at the level we've seen in it.
I'm probably just getting trolled, but it is actually a rather serious accusation to say they rigged it even if your joking.
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On June 10 2012 17:21 whatgoat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 17:07 whiterabbit wrote:On June 10 2012 17:01 Sepnova wrote:On June 10 2012 16:58 ssg wrote:On June 10 2012 16:56 Sepnova wrote:On June 10 2012 16:52 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:On June 10 2012 16:51 Sepnova wrote:On June 10 2012 16:46 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:On June 10 2012 16:45 SnipedSoul wrote:On June 10 2012 16:44 ZenithM wrote:
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Who the hell is Dendi? The Flash of dota. Who cares then? It's funny how a game is only popular because it's free to play and yet it's on and off MLG constantly because its a bore to watch and takes about as much skill as transferring drones. The filthy game ruined my beautiful War 3, they can grind all the DOTA / HoN / LoL people into soylent dog chow for all I care. I'm sure it will die down in a couple years. It's boring to watch and putting together a team of 5 with a community that egotistical is almost impossible. As a WC3 player, it isn't dying soon. Die down on the competitive scene I mean. No one will want to sponsor something no one watches. Talk with ya soon after The International 2, when they release numbers of stream watchers... in millions. sc2 = tennis dota 2 = american football
Except few people watch American football outside of the US.
Dota is big all around. It's large in the US, large in Western Europe, huge in Eastern Europe, huge in CIS, huge in SEA, and gigantic in China.
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On June 10 2012 17:18 ShadeR wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 17:15 Whatson wrote:On June 10 2012 17:15 beat farm wrote:On June 10 2012 17:13 Mike15xp wrote:On June 10 2012 17:11 ShadeR wrote:
All the people saying it's 1am there... the crowd is tired... lol.... its finals week for many schools too so many of us couldn't attend you got to be kidding me. most college students got out a month ago. they're not all college students lol Isnt it the point that college students wouldn't be tired? 1am? Thats when we really start feeling awake...
Not for the people who woke up earlier in the morning to catch a full day of games. Maybe the people who overslept past noon could have a bit more energy, but anyone who does that when trying to attend an MLG live isn't doing it right.
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On June 10 2012 17:21 SimDawg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 17:18 jmbthirteen wrote:On June 10 2012 17:14 SimDawg wrote:On June 10 2012 17:10 whiterabbit wrote:On June 10 2012 17:07 SimDawg wrote:On June 10 2012 17:05 NEOtheONE wrote:On June 10 2012 17:04 SimDawg wrote:
Cheer for him you losers. Man that crowd sucks. It's 1 am there and they've been there all day, cut them some slack. Its 4AM here and I made more noise in front of my computer. Even Tasteless is begging them to do something. They're horrible. Spend 20 bucks to go to an event and you're screwing yourselves when you're not making it as epic as it could be. Imagine a great crowd, that moment could be something we remember ala Thorzain and Dreamhack, and you could say you were there and a part of it. Now, what? Crappy crowd and a moment that is forgotten. Pretty nice to whine from comfort of your home while those people probably watched 10 hours of SC2 before that final game. Is it so exhausting and mind numbing to watch SC2 from a chair? Am I being unreasonable for them to actually try and make that moment something special? Have you ever been to a day long concert? It's not like people can't cheer after 8 hours of being awake. They're just lame. :/ Ummm 14 hours of being at an event is exhausting dude. They were all going around playing HotS, getting autographs, and tons of other stuff after a late night from day 1. Stop whining that the crowd wasn't going insane after a terrible game (Flash outclassed Bisu pretty badly). Okay, I'm not out just yet. Why do the games need to be amazing? People were aware these guys aren't the best in the game yet. It was the event, the spectacle, the (supposed) atmosphere that was the entire hype. How good the games were should not have effected the crowd.
lol are you fucking serious dude?
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On June 10 2012 17:21 Mike15xp wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 17:19 sertman wrote:On June 10 2012 17:14 SimDawg wrote:On June 10 2012 17:10 whiterabbit wrote:On June 10 2012 17:07 SimDawg wrote:On June 10 2012 17:05 NEOtheONE wrote:On June 10 2012 17:04 SimDawg wrote:
Cheer for him you losers. Man that crowd sucks. It's 1 am there and they've been there all day, cut them some slack. Its 4AM here and I made more noise in front of my computer. Even Tasteless is begging them to do something. They're horrible. Spend 20 bucks to go to an event and you're screwing yourselves when you're not making it as epic as it could be. Imagine a great crowd, that moment could be something we remember ala Thorzain and Dreamhack, and you could say you were there and a part of it. Now, what? Crappy crowd and a moment that is forgotten. Pretty nice to whine from comfort of your home while those people probably watched 10 hours of SC2 before that final game. Is it so exhausting and mind numbing to watch SC2 from a chair? Am I being unreasonable for them to actually try and make that moment something special? Have you ever been to a day long concert? It's not like people can't cheer after 8 hours of being awake. They're just lame. :/ being at an MLG is fucking exhausting, you spend most of the time walking around the huuuuge venue watching games (standing room), getting free unlimited dr pepper, visiting the sponsor sections, and so on. plus anyone is going to be tired after being awake for 15-16 hours, most of it in a high energy public venue. if you've never been to one you have zero perspective on what it's like, utterly useless this is true i was at the last mlg anaheim from around 9am to 1am on saturday its really exhausting
I've spectated and competed at multiple events and I literally leave the event and go straight to sleep I'm so exhausted. Being at a high energy venue for 10 hours or more is extremely taxing mentally and physically.
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On June 10 2012 17:21 Mike15xp wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 17:19 sertman wrote:On June 10 2012 17:14 SimDawg wrote:On June 10 2012 17:10 whiterabbit wrote:On June 10 2012 17:07 SimDawg wrote:On June 10 2012 17:05 NEOtheONE wrote:On June 10 2012 17:04 SimDawg wrote:
Cheer for him you losers. Man that crowd sucks. It's 1 am there and they've been there all day, cut them some slack. Its 4AM here and I made more noise in front of my computer. Even Tasteless is begging them to do something. They're horrible. Spend 20 bucks to go to an event and you're screwing yourselves when you're not making it as epic as it could be. Imagine a great crowd, that moment could be something we remember ala Thorzain and Dreamhack, and you could say you were there and a part of it. Now, what? Crappy crowd and a moment that is forgotten. Pretty nice to whine from comfort of your home while those people probably watched 10 hours of SC2 before that final game. Is it so exhausting and mind numbing to watch SC2 from a chair? Am I being unreasonable for them to actually try and make that moment something special? Have you ever been to a day long concert? It's not like people can't cheer after 8 hours of being awake. They're just lame. :/ being at an MLG is fucking exhausting, you spend most of the time walking around the huuuuge venue watching games (standing room), getting free unlimited dr pepper, visiting the sponsor sections, and so on. plus anyone is going to be tired after being awake for 15-16 hours, most of it in a high energy public venue. if you've never been to one you have zero perspective on what it's like, utterly useless this is true i was at the last mlg anaheim from around 9am to 1am on saturday its really exhausting
I've been to 3 day concerts where the same shit happens including ridiculously loud music and tons of beer and hangovers. I understand we're all nerds here but if you think a MLG is exhausting enough that cheering is impossible you really have not experienced enough in your life.
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On June 10 2012 17:23 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 17:21 whatgoat wrote:On June 10 2012 17:07 whiterabbit wrote:On June 10 2012 17:01 Sepnova wrote:On June 10 2012 16:58 ssg wrote:On June 10 2012 16:56 Sepnova wrote:On June 10 2012 16:52 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:On June 10 2012 16:51 Sepnova wrote:On June 10 2012 16:46 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:On June 10 2012 16:45 SnipedSoul wrote:
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The Flash of dota. Who cares then? It's funny how a game is only popular because it's free to play and yet it's on and off MLG constantly because its a bore to watch and takes about as much skill as transferring drones. The filthy game ruined my beautiful War 3, they can grind all the DOTA / HoN / LoL people into soylent dog chow for all I care. I'm sure it will die down in a couple years. It's boring to watch and putting together a team of 5 with a community that egotistical is almost impossible. As a WC3 player, it isn't dying soon. Die down on the competitive scene I mean. No one will want to sponsor something no one watches. Talk with ya soon after The International 2, when they release numbers of stream watchers... in millions. sc2 = tennis dota 2 = american football Except few people watch American football outside of the US. Dota is big all around. It's large in the US, large in Western Europe, huge in Eastern Europe, huge in CIS, huge in SEA, and gigantic in China.
Please, don't even discuss that crap here, we don't care how big it is. Britney Spears is big, my step mom is big. The log I had to hold in from watching all those matches back to back is gonna be big.
This does not mean any of them are good. Leave the dota at the door please.
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On June 10 2012 17:21 SimDawg wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 17:18 jmbthirteen wrote:On June 10 2012 17:14 SimDawg wrote:On June 10 2012 17:10 whiterabbit wrote:On June 10 2012 17:07 SimDawg wrote:On June 10 2012 17:05 NEOtheONE wrote:On June 10 2012 17:04 SimDawg wrote:
Cheer for him you losers. Man that crowd sucks. It's 1 am there and they've been there all day, cut them some slack. Its 4AM here and I made more noise in front of my computer. Even Tasteless is begging them to do something. They're horrible. Spend 20 bucks to go to an event and you're screwing yourselves when you're not making it as epic as it could be. Imagine a great crowd, that moment could be something we remember ala Thorzain and Dreamhack, and you could say you were there and a part of it. Now, what? Crappy crowd and a moment that is forgotten. Pretty nice to whine from comfort of your home while those people probably watched 10 hours of SC2 before that final game. Is it so exhausting and mind numbing to watch SC2 from a chair? Am I being unreasonable for them to actually try and make that moment something special? Have you ever been to a day long concert? It's not like people can't cheer after 8 hours of being awake. They're just lame. :/ Ummm 14 hours of being at an event is exhausting dude. They were all going around playing HotS, getting autographs, and tons of other stuff after a late night from day 1. Stop whining that the crowd wasn't going insane after a terrible game (Flash outclassed Bisu pretty badly). Okay, I'm not out just yet. Why do the games need to be amazing? People were aware these guys aren't the best in the game yet. It was the event, the spectacle, the (supposed) atmosphere that was the entire hype. How good the games were should not have effected the crowd.
Are you serious? Have you EVER been to an MLG?
You get fucking tired. Your lungs and voice die out on you in the middle of the second day, even with constant water. If you bothered hearing MKP vs Stephano, you heard a pretty big crowd. You can't possibly keep that up every time you watch a game. So here you have guys that have been cheering every half an hour thanks to the casters for well over 10 hours, how would you expect them to react at 1 in the morning? Seriously, grow some brains.
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On June 10 2012 17:24 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 17:23 Azarkon wrote:On June 10 2012 17:21 whatgoat wrote:On June 10 2012 17:07 whiterabbit wrote:On June 10 2012 17:01 Sepnova wrote:On June 10 2012 16:58 ssg wrote:On June 10 2012 16:56 Sepnova wrote:On June 10 2012 16:52 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:On June 10 2012 16:51 Sepnova wrote:On June 10 2012 16:46 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
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Who cares then? It's funny how a game is only popular because it's free to play and yet it's on and off MLG constantly because its a bore to watch and takes about as much skill as transferring drones. The filthy game ruined my beautiful War 3, they can grind all the DOTA / HoN / LoL people into soylent dog chow for all I care. I'm sure it will die down in a couple years. It's boring to watch and putting together a team of 5 with a community that egotistical is almost impossible. As a WC3 player, it isn't dying soon. Die down on the competitive scene I mean. No one will want to sponsor something no one watches. Talk with ya soon after The International 2, when they release numbers of stream watchers... in millions. sc2 = tennis dota 2 = american football Except few people watch American football outside of the US. Dota is big all around. It's large in the US, large in Western Europe, huge in Eastern Europe, huge in CIS, huge in SEA, and gigantic in China. Please, don't even discuss that crap here, we don't care how big it is. Britney Spears is big, my step mom is big. The log I had to hold in from watching all those matches back to back is gonna be big. This does not mean any of them are good. Leave the dota at the door please.
LOL that was amazing your my hero
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On June 10 2012 17:21 ]343[ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2012 17:19 dmnum wrote:On June 10 2012 17:17 ZenithM wrote:On June 10 2012 17:14 [17]Purple wrote:On June 10 2012 17:11 Sepnova wrote:
Hopefully next event they have a mix bracket of 16 players. The same 8 Kespa, 4 community players (Idra, InControl etc), and 4 top tier players (MKP, MVP, Nestea, etc). Hahahaha... Are you fucking serious? Community players, they have been relegated to that title now? Lol you think he's trolling because he called them that? I was shocked he dared mentioning Incontrol's name next to players of high caliber. :D My question is, if they are community players, who is troy and who is abed? and who's pierce?
and who would be Chang?
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On June 10 2012 17:07 Lightwip wrote:
Even in sc2, people understand that Flash is boring.
Cool.
Even in SC2, Lightwip is a helpless h4ter.
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