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GodOfWar
Profile Joined December 2011
870 Posts
June 05 2012 14:49 GMT
#2781
On June 05 2012 23:40 opterown wrote:
actually, offtopic, but i think the most impressive run so far is leenock's mlg providence run, going 38-5 or something like that. dropping three games to DRG, one to naniwa and one to MMA.
sure, his open bracket first matches may have been against NA pros or the like, but leenock took out MMA, Mvp, DRG, Oz, Naniwa, Idra, and Huk (lol).
just my personal take on most impressive achievement so far =]


Squirtles run at IPL4 coming from Open bracket was equally impressive tbh. Though he didnt win the whole thing. I think he only dropped maps at the final series.
Mvp Moon Squirtle
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
June 05 2012 14:59 GMT
#2782
What the fuck symbol
CaptainCharisma
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand808 Posts
June 05 2012 15:01 GMT
#2783
Last time I checked this thread Losira was 4 -0. Now I check it to confirm that IM had won and Symbol wins 5-0.


ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!!!?!@?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
EG.DeMuslim --- EG.ThorZain --- TSL.Polt --- LGIMMvp --- Mill.fOrGG --- EG.Stephano --- EGiNcontroL --- EG.IdrA --- MarineKing.Prime --- SlayerS_MMA --- Liquid'Hero
zergtat
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Hong Kong853 Posts
June 05 2012 15:02 GMT
#2784
omg reverse all-kill? SYMBOL WHY YOU ARE SO GOOD?????????
Z: SEn P: White-Ra T: Polt
xongnox
Profile Joined November 2011
540 Posts
June 05 2012 15:03 GMT
#2785
On June 05 2012 22:51 samurai80 wrote:

So now you're gonna tell me that's because terran players are naturally better, so that it's should be normal to find twice more of them than the other race players.

Stop that please, we're all really tired of this same refrain every time.

But that was just the truth : at the beginning of SC2, terran seemed stronger and funnier than other races, so an important number of top korean players picked Terran, one good half maybe...

But nowadays it's clearly the inverse : coachs picks only P in sc2-Proleague, and nearly only Z or P in GSTL, while most news Koreans talents are Z or P.... and everyone a bit honest in the scene, even Jaedong, Flash and Bisu, seems to agree that T is atm the weakest race
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6668 Posts
June 05 2012 15:08 GMT
#2786
On June 06 2012 00:03 xongnox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 22:51 samurai80 wrote:

So now you're gonna tell me that's because terran players are naturally better, so that it's should be normal to find twice more of them than the other race players.

Stop that please, we're all really tired of this same refrain every time.

But that was just the truth : at the beginning of SC2, terran seemed stronger and funnier than other races, so an important number of top korean players picked Terran, one good half maybe...

But nowadays it's clearly the inverse : coachs picks only P in sc2-Proleague, and nearly only Z or P in GSTL, while most news Koreans talents are Z or P.... and everyone a bit honest in the scene, even Jaedong, Flash and Bisu, seems to agree that T is atm the weakest race

I love the BW pro's and can't wait for them to dominate... but they have been playing for less then 3 months... their opinion on balance doesn't really mean jack shit.

Could T be a little UP? Meh it's possibly I personal don't see it, considering how they still dominate. But using new to the game players opinions as balance facts was just stupid.
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46556 Posts
June 05 2012 15:08 GMT
#2787
On June 06 2012 00:01 CaptainCharisma wrote:
Last time I checked this thread Losira was 4 -0. Now I check it to confirm that IM had won and Symbol wins 5-0.


ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!!!?!@?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


Symbol read Mvp like a book, Nestea devolved into Zergbong, and MC was afk.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DidYuhim
Profile Joined September 2011
Ukraine1905 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-05 15:13:49
June 05 2012 15:10 GMT
#2788
On June 06 2012 00:08 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Symbol read Mvp like a book, Nestea devolved into Zergbong, and MC was afk.

More like Symbol outplayed Mvp in mindgames.

Final game was a really nice game of Symbol, simply playing better overall, winning despite disadvantage and mistakes.
CaptainCharisma
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand808 Posts
June 05 2012 15:11 GMT
#2789
On June 06 2012 00:03 xongnox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2012 22:51 samurai80 wrote:

So now you're gonna tell me that's because terran players are naturally better, so that it's should be normal to find twice more of them than the other race players.

Stop that please, we're all really tired of this same refrain every time.

But that was just the truth : at the beginning of SC2, terran seemed stronger and funnier than other races, so an important number of top korean players picked Terran, one good half maybe...

But nowadays it's clearly the inverse : coachs picks only P in sc2-Proleague, and nearly only Z or P in GSTL, while most news Koreans talents are Z or P.... and everyone a bit honest in the scene, even Jaedong, Flash and Bisu, seems to agree that T is atm the weakest race


Regarding lots of Terrans in the GSL, I think it is also important/interesting to consider the strength of a race in a format where you know your opponent and you know the maps. Perhaps Terran has some sort of inherent advantage in being able to create better plans than P or Z, whereas P or Z can perform better when two random players are thrown together to compete ad hoc?

I feel like this is something that is always forgotten when people bring up T's dominance in the GSL. I wish interviewers would ask the top pros their thoughts on this. I can't remember it being asked.
EG.DeMuslim --- EG.ThorZain --- TSL.Polt --- LGIMMvp --- Mill.fOrGG --- EG.Stephano --- EGiNcontroL --- EG.IdrA --- MarineKing.Prime --- SlayerS_MMA --- Liquid'Hero
xongnox
Profile Joined November 2011
540 Posts
June 05 2012 15:16 GMT
#2790
On June 06 2012 00:08 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Could T be a little UP? Meh it's possibly I personal don't see it, considering how they still dominate. But using new to the game players opinions as balance facts was just stupid.


yeah considering opinions of the bests RTS players ever and professionals SC2 coachs is just stupid, your own is probably better. LOL. good one.

Terran dominating nothing atm. They get smashed every day in GSTL and proleague. Wtih the exception of MVP, they were smashed by (often inferior) toss and zergs players last GSL. And i don't even talk of foreign scene ^^
Kkxtrouble
Profile Joined April 2012
Brazil575 Posts
June 05 2012 15:19 GMT
#2791
I give the edge to MKP's all-kill because he had to play all MUs, so he had to play his worst MU.
I pledge myself to conquer all the foes who stand before the mighty gift bestowed in my unworthy hand
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46556 Posts
June 05 2012 15:19 GMT
#2792
On June 06 2012 00:16 xongnox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 00:08 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Could T be a little UP? Meh it's possibly I personal don't see it, considering how they still dominate. But using new to the game players opinions as balance facts was just stupid.


yeah considering opinions of the bests RTS players ever and professionals SC2 coachs is just stupid, your own is probably better. LOL. good one.

Terran dominating nothing atm. They get smashed every day in GSTL and proleague. Wtih the exception of MVP, they were smashed by (often inferior) toss and zergs players last GSL. And i don't even talk of foreign scene ^^


Terrans not dominating anymore doesn't mean that they're necessarily underpowered.

You conveniently forgot about the possibility that they could be on par, or balanced, with other races.

Oh how comfortable we've all become with Terrans dominating the scene!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
xongnox
Profile Joined November 2011
540 Posts
June 05 2012 15:20 GMT
#2793
On June 06 2012 00:11 CaptainCharisma wrote:
Regarding lots of Terrans in the GSL, I think it is also important/interesting to consider the strength of a race in a format where you know your opponent and you know the maps. Perhaps Terran has some sort of inherent advantage in being able to create better plans than P or Z, whereas P or Z can perform better when two random players are thrown together to compete ad hoc?


This

GSL format favors a bit terrans ( T had more variables and adjustable openings than Z or P, and 75% of T wins in GSL comes from early to mid-game advantage ), contrary to foreign tournaments and GSTL, where Z and P had always been more successful.
imareaver3
Profile Joined June 2010
United States906 Posts
June 05 2012 15:21 GMT
#2794
Is this the first "televised" reverse all-kill in SC2?
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
June 05 2012 15:23 GMT
#2795
why did I miss today and why do I have no method of paying for a tix

holy shit losira and symbol

makes me feel better about switching to zerg
ffxiv enjoyer
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
June 05 2012 15:40 GMT
#2796
jesus symbol all killed. wow what a beast
lessQQmorePEWPEW
Profile Joined November 2011
Jamaica921 Posts
June 05 2012 15:47 GMT
#2797
Why wasn't a toss used (BOSSTOSS) to take down symbol? IM coach makes my head hurt.
Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly - Bob Marley
CuSToM
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1478 Posts
June 05 2012 15:49 GMT
#2798
I checked before I left for work this morning and saw IM was up 4-0 and was sad and angry then I check now and see that TSL wins 5-4..... Wow so impressive. Can't wait to watch the vods when I get home.

I just hope and hope that Symbol stays on TSL and doesn't suffer a similar fate to all their other aces and stars, and well players in general.
Team SCV Life #1
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2014 Posts
June 05 2012 15:50 GMT
#2799
Zergs, zergs everywhere
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
June 05 2012 15:53 GMT
#2800
A bad day for the stars in the sky, but at the end , the stars keep shining.
Tester | MC | Crank | Flash | Jaedong | MVP
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