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On June 05 2012 22:08 Xpace wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 22:03 GoingGoingGone wrote:
Q: How do you say "Losira" in reverse?
A: Symbol.
*ba dum tss* What? It's "Arisol". The reverse of Symbol would be Lobmys.
Wow, you must be some kind of genius.
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On June 05 2012 21:57 ragnorr wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 21:57 Fubi wrote:On June 05 2012 21:56 MaNaVoId wrote:On June 05 2012 21:55 ShampooSuicide wrote:On June 05 2012 21:53 Ramble wrote:
Is MC not there? He would be a good zerg sniper. No he was in the US for the NASL sunday show match and was going to be at MLG this weekend so is staying in the US this week to not have to fly back and forth. MC here or not would not have mattered, this is fucking symbol! MC beat Symbol in a BoX recently didnt he? Symbol 2-0'ed him in MLG Arena
Oh I didn't know that. I know Symbol lost to MC 0-2 in Iron Squid though. I do think we still need to see more of Symbol's vP to judge. AFA his vT and vZ are concerned, he's really awesome and I'm becoming a fan !
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IMSlayersMVPPrime sounds like a good namechange for Maru if he all-kills this GSTL finals 
Since they like switching their names after a GSL win 
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On June 05 2012 22:25 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 21:57 ragnorr wrote:On June 05 2012 21:57 Fubi wrote:On June 05 2012 21:56 MaNaVoId wrote:On June 05 2012 21:55 ShampooSuicide wrote:On June 05 2012 21:53 Ramble wrote:
Is MC not there? He would be a good zerg sniper. No he was in the US for the NASL sunday show match and was going to be at MLG this weekend so is staying in the US this week to not have to fly back and forth. MC here or not would not have mattered, this is fucking symbol! MC beat Symbol in a BoX recently didnt he? Symbol 2-0'ed him in MLG Arena Oh I didn't know that. I know Symbol lost to MC 0-2 in Iron Squid though. I do think we still need to see more of Symbol's vP to judge. AFA his vT and vZ are concerned, he's really awesome and I'm becoming a fan !
Ironsquid was before the Queenbuff though right ?
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On June 05 2012 22:30 s3rp wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 22:25 samurai80 wrote:On June 05 2012 21:57 ragnorr wrote:On June 05 2012 21:57 Fubi wrote:On June 05 2012 21:56 MaNaVoId wrote:On June 05 2012 21:55 ShampooSuicide wrote:On June 05 2012 21:53 Ramble wrote:
Is MC not there? He would be a good zerg sniper. No he was in the US for the NASL sunday show match and was going to be at MLG this weekend so is staying in the US this week to not have to fly back and forth. MC here or not would not have mattered, this is fucking symbol! MC beat Symbol in a BoX recently didnt he? Symbol 2-0'ed him in MLG Arena Oh I didn't know that. I know Symbol lost to MC 0-2 in Iron Squid though. I do think we still need to see more of Symbol's vP to judge. AFA his vT and vZ are concerned, he's really awesome and I'm becoming a fan ! Ironsquid was before the Queenbuff though right ?
Queen buff doesn't help in z v p. Its mainly for z v t.
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So, well.
Can we start agreeing that Zerg might be a bit too strong right now ? Or it's still too soon ?
I don't have the stats right in front of me, but zerg probably won more games during GSTL than terran and protoss together.
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On June 05 2012 22:31 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 22:30 s3rp wrote:On June 05 2012 22:25 samurai80 wrote:On June 05 2012 21:57 ragnorr wrote:On June 05 2012 21:57 Fubi wrote:On June 05 2012 21:56 MaNaVoId wrote:On June 05 2012 21:55 ShampooSuicide wrote:On June 05 2012 21:53 Ramble wrote:
Is MC not there? He would be a good zerg sniper. No he was in the US for the NASL sunday show match and was going to be at MLG this weekend so is staying in the US this week to not have to fly back and forth. MC here or not would not have mattered, this is fucking symbol! MC beat Symbol in a BoX recently didnt he? Symbol 2-0'ed him in MLG Arena Oh I didn't know that. I know Symbol lost to MC 0-2 in Iron Squid though. I do think we still need to see more of Symbol's vP to judge. AFA his vT and vZ are concerned, he's really awesome and I'm becoming a fan ! Ironsquid was before the Queenbuff though right ? Queen buff doesn't help in z v p. Its mainly for z v t.
Not true Queenbuff kills any scouting after for Toss once Queens are out until Observers and also helps with some pressure builds with Zealots .
Yes its bigger for ZvT but its not like it did nothing for ZvP.
Edit: Ah yes and the Stargate stuff is even weaker now ..
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Queen buff does help with ZvP. It shuts down stargate play even harder now, which was already fading to start. It also helps hold against early z lot pushes and other things since queen can be somewhat microd against them. It was much bigger effect on ZvT though since hellions use to be main early harass.
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On June 05 2012 22:33 s3rp wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 22:31 ImNightmare wrote:On June 05 2012 22:30 s3rp wrote:On June 05 2012 22:25 samurai80 wrote:On June 05 2012 21:57 ragnorr wrote:On June 05 2012 21:57 Fubi wrote:On June 05 2012 21:56 MaNaVoId wrote:On June 05 2012 21:55 ShampooSuicide wrote:On June 05 2012 21:53 Ramble wrote:
Is MC not there? He would be a good zerg sniper. No he was in the US for the NASL sunday show match and was going to be at MLG this weekend so is staying in the US this week to not have to fly back and forth. MC here or not would not have mattered, this is fucking symbol! MC beat Symbol in a BoX recently didnt he? Symbol 2-0'ed him in MLG Arena Oh I didn't know that. I know Symbol lost to MC 0-2 in Iron Squid though. I do think we still need to see more of Symbol's vP to judge. AFA his vT and vZ are concerned, he's really awesome and I'm becoming a fan ! Ironsquid was before the Queenbuff though right ? Queen buff doesn't help in z v p. Its mainly for z v t. Not true Queenbuff kills any scouting after for Toss once Queens are out until Observers and also helps with some pressure builds with Zealots .
What is there to scout in P v Z. There is no all in that would work before the 8 min mark. Though I do agree with the zealot pressure builds, albeit just a little
Edit: I just realised this sounds like a qq whine, but really..what all in would work against protoss. Baneling bust is not gonna work, 7 roach rush maybe, but that comes out before queens so its not a point for our statement.
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On June 05 2012 22:07 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 22:06 ceaRshaf wrote:On June 05 2012 22:05 forsooth wrote:
So...
Terran is now 2-11 this GSTL excluding mirrors. Bad times. You will still get a GSL champion so don't worry. I doubt it. You'll enjoy the GSL, plenty of terran tears will flow
I really hope so but it's obviously not gonna happen. We've all been used to hear those terrans complaining about how weak their race was and then all of a sudden they just win everything, but for them this is normal because terran players are naturally more skilled, so even if their race is weak they are still able to crush everyone.
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Dominican Republic275 Posts
It does seems like this guy is genuinely good.
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On June 05 2012 22:36 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 22:33 s3rp wrote:On June 05 2012 22:31 ImNightmare wrote:On June 05 2012 22:30 s3rp wrote:On June 05 2012 22:25 samurai80 wrote:On June 05 2012 21:57 ragnorr wrote:On June 05 2012 21:57 Fubi wrote:On June 05 2012 21:56 MaNaVoId wrote:On June 05 2012 21:55 ShampooSuicide wrote:On June 05 2012 21:53 Ramble wrote:
Is MC not there? He would be a good zerg sniper. No he was in the US for the NASL sunday show match and was going to be at MLG this weekend so is staying in the US this week to not have to fly back and forth. MC here or not would not have mattered, this is fucking symbol! MC beat Symbol in a BoX recently didnt he? Symbol 2-0'ed him in MLG Arena Oh I didn't know that. I know Symbol lost to MC 0-2 in Iron Squid though. I do think we still need to see more of Symbol's vP to judge. AFA his vT and vZ are concerned, he's really awesome and I'm becoming a fan ! Ironsquid was before the Queenbuff though right ? Queen buff doesn't help in z v p. Its mainly for z v t. Not true Queenbuff kills any scouting after for Toss once Queens are out until Observers and also helps with some pressure builds with Zealots . What is there to scout in P v Z. There is no all in that would work before the 8 min mark. Though I do agree with the zealot pressure builds, albeit just a little
The 3 Base Ling/Bling Bust Zenio like to play irc hits at that point. Gastimings are pretty important to see though against Zerg. You gotta know how long you can move out on the Map since that gets shutdown once Lings get speed.
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On June 05 2012 22:38 s3rp wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 22:36 ImNightmare wrote:On June 05 2012 22:33 s3rp wrote:On June 05 2012 22:31 ImNightmare wrote:On June 05 2012 22:30 s3rp wrote:On June 05 2012 22:25 samurai80 wrote:On June 05 2012 21:57 ragnorr wrote:On June 05 2012 21:57 Fubi wrote:On June 05 2012 21:56 MaNaVoId wrote:On June 05 2012 21:55 ShampooSuicide wrote:
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No he was in the US for the NASL sunday show match and was going to be at MLG this weekend so is staying in the US this week to not have to fly back and forth. MC here or not would not have mattered, this is fucking symbol! MC beat Symbol in a BoX recently didnt he? Symbol 2-0'ed him in MLG Arena Oh I didn't know that. I know Symbol lost to MC 0-2 in Iron Squid though. I do think we still need to see more of Symbol's vP to judge. AFA his vT and vZ are concerned, he's really awesome and I'm becoming a fan ! Ironsquid was before the Queenbuff though right ? Queen buff doesn't help in z v p. Its mainly for z v t. Not true Queenbuff kills any scouting after for Toss once Queens are out until Observers and also helps with some pressure builds with Zealots . What is there to scout in P v Z. There is no all in that would work before the 8 min mark. Though I do agree with the zealot pressure builds, albeit just a little The 3 Base Ling/Bling Bust Zenio like to play irc hits at that point.
You see more than 4 lings, you assume a all in. Simple as that. And its retarded to all in to be honest, as a zerg if I wanna all in I would do a 6 pool. faster and cooler. Once again not a balance whine. I think P v Z is favored for zerg currently. Just feels zerg all inning is retarded. Since they just don't work
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Really wish MC was there though, would have loved to see that game. Even though MC is my favorite player, I know in team leagues hes a complete dice roll. He takes risk and does all ins while great for mind games in a best of series, in a single game you never know what happens so hes just as likely to win or loss.
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On June 05 2012 22:36 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 22:33 s3rp wrote:On June 05 2012 22:31 ImNightmare wrote:On June 05 2012 22:30 s3rp wrote:On June 05 2012 22:25 samurai80 wrote:On June 05 2012 21:57 ragnorr wrote:On June 05 2012 21:57 Fubi wrote:On June 05 2012 21:56 MaNaVoId wrote:On June 05 2012 21:55 ShampooSuicide wrote:On June 05 2012 21:53 Ramble wrote:
Is MC not there? He would be a good zerg sniper. No he was in the US for the NASL sunday show match and was going to be at MLG this weekend so is staying in the US this week to not have to fly back and forth. MC here or not would not have mattered, this is fucking symbol! MC beat Symbol in a BoX recently didnt he? Symbol 2-0'ed him in MLG Arena Oh I didn't know that. I know Symbol lost to MC 0-2 in Iron Squid though. I do think we still need to see more of Symbol's vP to judge. AFA his vT and vZ are concerned, he's really awesome and I'm becoming a fan ! Ironsquid was before the Queenbuff though right ? Queen buff doesn't help in z v p. Its mainly for z v t. Not true Queenbuff kills any scouting after for Toss once Queens are out until Observers and also helps with some pressure builds with Zealots . What is there to scout in P v Z. There is no all in that would work before the 8 min mark. Though I do agree with the zealot pressure builds, albeit just a little Edit: I just realised this sounds like a qq whine, but really..what all in would work against protoss. Baneling bust is not gonna work, 7 roach rush maybe, but that comes out before queens so its not a point for our statement.
Unscouted Banelingbusts can work very very well in ZvP against Nexus first / Forge first.
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On June 05 2012 22:40 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 22:38 s3rp wrote:On June 05 2012 22:36 ImNightmare wrote:On June 05 2012 22:33 s3rp wrote:On June 05 2012 22:31 ImNightmare wrote:On June 05 2012 22:30 s3rp wrote:On June 05 2012 22:25 samurai80 wrote:On June 05 2012 21:57 ragnorr wrote:On June 05 2012 21:57 Fubi wrote:On June 05 2012 21:56 MaNaVoId wrote:
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MC here or not would not have mattered, this is fucking symbol! MC beat Symbol in a BoX recently didnt he? Symbol 2-0'ed him in MLG Arena Oh I didn't know that. I know Symbol lost to MC 0-2 in Iron Squid though. I do think we still need to see more of Symbol's vP to judge. AFA his vT and vZ are concerned, he's really awesome and I'm becoming a fan ! Ironsquid was before the Queenbuff though right ? Queen buff doesn't help in z v p. Its mainly for z v t. Not true Queenbuff kills any scouting after for Toss once Queens are out until Observers and also helps with some pressure builds with Zealots . What is there to scout in P v Z. There is no all in that would work before the 8 min mark. Though I do agree with the zealot pressure builds, albeit just a little The 3 Base Ling/Bling Bust Zenio like to play irc hits at that point. You see more than 4 lings, you assume a all in. Simple as that. And its retarded to all in to be honest, as a zerg if I wanna all in I would do a 6 pool. faster and cooler.
And how do you see more than 4 Lings ? He's not going to move out with more than 4 untill he cleared the way to your base ? Look i don't play Toss but i saw alot of ZvP cheeses from Zerg since the patch on streams that don't get scouted until the Lings/Blings already moving in.
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On June 05 2012 22:41 s3rp wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2012 22:36 ImNightmare wrote:On June 05 2012 22:33 s3rp wrote:On June 05 2012 22:31 ImNightmare wrote:On June 05 2012 22:30 s3rp wrote:On June 05 2012 22:25 samurai80 wrote:On June 05 2012 21:57 ragnorr wrote:On June 05 2012 21:57 Fubi wrote:On June 05 2012 21:56 MaNaVoId wrote:On June 05 2012 21:55 ShampooSuicide wrote:
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No he was in the US for the NASL sunday show match and was going to be at MLG this weekend so is staying in the US this week to not have to fly back and forth. MC here or not would not have mattered, this is fucking symbol! MC beat Symbol in a BoX recently didnt he? Symbol 2-0'ed him in MLG Arena Oh I didn't know that. I know Symbol lost to MC 0-2 in Iron Squid though. I do think we still need to see more of Symbol's vP to judge. AFA his vT and vZ are concerned, he's really awesome and I'm becoming a fan ! Ironsquid was before the Queenbuff though right ? Queen buff doesn't help in z v p. Its mainly for z v t. Not true Queenbuff kills any scouting after for Toss once Queens are out until Observers and also helps with some pressure builds with Zealots . What is there to scout in P v Z. There is no all in that would work before the 8 min mark. Though I do agree with the zealot pressure builds, albeit just a little Edit: I just realised this sounds like a qq whine, but really..what all in would work against protoss. Baneling bust is not gonna work, 7 roach rush maybe, but that comes out before queens so its not a point for our statement. Unscouted Banelingbusts can work very very well in ZvP against Nexus first / Forge first.
hmm... they never did for my matches. :/ when I take down the scouting zealot with my 4 lings, all protoss players build extra cannons, but maybe I am missing out on something.
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