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[$5000] FXOpen Invitational Series #6 - Page 3

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Zax19
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Czech Republic1136 Posts
June 02 2012 22:33 GMT
#41
On June 03 2012 05:01 FXOUnstable wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 04:09 Zax19 wrote:
I don't understand why you are making it even more spread out than the previous one. I tried explaining it the last time but this is even worse (for the players, viewers, even you). You can't do it like this and then say "we can't break even" as if it was the universal truth :/


I do remember your posts and we did have discussion on your points however we decided on running the same format broadcast wise as the last event. There is double the amount of games to be broadcast since many of the players advised us the group into single elim is better for them. A main factor to our decision against weekend style tournaments as you suggested was TB's details he contributed about SCI4, which is a much more successful event than ours viewer wise.

We are not perfect, but we will be consistently be evaluating our events, the change from our FIS4 event to FIS5 showed dramatic improvement, we are simply adjusting as we go, if this shows decline in interest then we will adjust accordingly again.

I don't agree how this can be "worse" than any other format though. some reasoning below;

The players - + Show Spoiler +
Giving the players time to get their matches played actually reduces the pressure on them, especially with many players having difficult travel schedules. It gives them the option to play out everything in one weekend which most Koreans prefer to do, or stage it out as their schedule requires. This style of scheduling is no different to NASL or IPL in many aspects.


The Viewers - + Show Spoiler +
It gives a regular event to tune into as the tournament progresses, some prefer regular things some prefer weekend events, however there was constant growth during every broadcast during our last event peaking with our finals, If we saw differently I would happily agree with you that the broadcast format should be changed.


Us - + Show Spoiler +
I do not see any downside to this format for us, as you stated, many sponsorship models are advertising for awareness, the FXOpen marketing department has told us how much they believe the exposure is worth, If anything extending the format for more broadcast time for the same cost would show an increase in cost/effect leading to the possibility of more allowance for our events, along with other factors like advertising and such to further increase the investment.


I am more than happy to elaborate on the reasoning and logic behind our format changes in detail if you wish via PM, If i find time I will do up a blog on it on our site shortly

First off, I apologise for the tone, it’s probably that I value my ideas too much but people online rarely seem interested. I follow FXOBoSs’s blog but FXO webpage is a bit outdated, the jersey design contest faded away so the structure of FIS6 made me rage a bit. I’m surprised you remember and I thank you for your reply.

Considering the prize pool and prize distribution I’m not sure it’s worth the time for the players if they have to attend the event on weekends spread across 2 months. I find the scheduling very risky, there might be frequent walkovers. Personally I watch most Starcraft if there is a big weekend event because of the hype, otherwise I only follow my favourite players - there is too much content. That’s why I watch qxc in NASL from VODs and I’m not sure if it’s a good idea to spread it out, people might lose interest.

One idea I had recently is that there might be a strange conflict of interest because FXOpen it’s the tournament organiser and also one of the two sponsors. My layman’s understanding is that as an organiser you rely on the sponsors and the viewers to break even but as a sponsor you don’t expect the money back directly, you essentially pay for marketing. That’s why I think FXOBoSs was a bit sceptical after the last event and from your reaction it seems you’ve already quantified the return on marketing and decided it’s worth the cost of the event.

Ultimately it’s all up to you, what worries me is the live viewership, attention span of the community and general response from the players. The “redeeming” factor a long league such as NASL is the speed of releasing VODs. It’s important if you want the people to watch the game rather than just look at the results and then decide what to watch and what to skip. For example the MLG Spring Arena 2 released the VODs even after just one week but when I tried watching them I felt it’s “the past” and I wasn’t all that interested because I knew the results.

I sincerely wish you can make it work and once again I apologise for my tone. It seems silly that I’m trying to tell a forex firm what to do with their money :D. I’ll try not to spam you with my concerns.
Really Blizz, really? - Darnell
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 02 2012 23:10 GMT
#42
still looking forward to this!!! :D
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 17:34:17
June 03 2012 14:18 GMT
#43
The first invites are in:

[image loading] MvPDongRaeGu
[image loading] MvPGenius
[image loading] FXOLeenock
[image loading] FXOGuMiho
[image loading] FXOTear
[image loading] NvmOOnGLaDe
[image loading] TtPiG
[image loading] iM`Mafia
[image loading] MFTargA
[image loading] Grubby
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 03 2012 14:27 GMT
#44
Happy to see tear be invited, any chance to see more of the hype behind him is good.
Glorious SEA doto
ChadMann
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia128 Posts
June 03 2012 14:30 GMT
#45
iM`Mafia*

but nice line up.. :D
#1 ANZ SC2 Team Manager https://twitter.com/ChadMannSC2
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
June 03 2012 14:33 GMT
#46
Go Australia!
sAviOr...
Rossi
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia59 Posts
June 03 2012 14:36 GMT
#47
Awesome to see SEA invites, big ups to FXO for that! List looking dam scary.
Aye, Bapa de boopee?
FXOUnstable
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia159 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 17:33:11
June 03 2012 17:32 GMT
#48
On June 03 2012 23:27 Fusilero wrote:
Happy to see tear be invited, any chance to see more of the hype behind him is good.


He was invited to this because of his most recent in house ranking performance of 35-4 (bo3 against every player in the house) Taking first place over Leenock and Gumiho.


On June 03 2012 23:30 ChadMann wrote:
iM`Mafia*

but nice line up.. :D


Sorry for that, all fixed up!
FXOUnstable
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-04 00:10:57
June 04 2012 00:10 GMT
#49
On June 04 2012 02:32 FXOUnstable wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2012 23:27 Fusilero wrote:
Happy to see tear be invited, any chance to see more of the hype behind him is good.


He was invited to this because of his most recent in house ranking performance of 35-4 (bo3 against every player in the house) Taking first place over Leenock and Gumiho.



holllyyyy tearrrr wow. what a boss!

great invites! keep em coming fxo~
creator, maru, life? the underage prodigies haha
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HoriZoNXI
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia310 Posts
June 04 2012 00:31 GMT
#50
Tear gonna smash!

I hope he gets the attention he deserves.

Also very good to see SEA players invites, especially TargA
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
June 05 2012 07:58 GMT
#51
The second SEA qualifier has been moved back one day as to avoid a conflict with another SEA event.


Also, the next wave of invites:


[image loading] SlayerSMMA
[image loading] SlayerSPuzzle
[image loading] SlayerSCrank
[image loading] ZeNEXLife
[image loading] ZeNEXSuHoSin
[image loading] MarineKingPrime
[image loading] CreatorPrime
[image loading] MaruPrime
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 05 2012 08:15 GMT
#52
YEAHHH LIFE/CREATOR/MARU!

and MKP!! :D
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TL+ Member
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
June 05 2012 08:16 GMT
#53
Liking the invites so far. Prime fighting!
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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Pirat6662001
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation949 Posts
June 05 2012 08:24 GMT
#54
Hoping to see some FXO.CIS players soon. team bonding!
So.. this Earth, nice planet you might say- WRONG!!
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
June 06 2012 08:51 GMT
#55
Very happy to see SEA players. Mafia in particular I don't believe has ever played in an international tournament.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
paradoxOO9
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1123 Posts
June 06 2012 09:25 GMT
#56
Always enjoyed these, looking forward to it!
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
June 06 2012 09:47 GMT
#57
grubbygrubby!!!!
SaSe fan club manager
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 06 2012 09:48 GMT
#58
Nice lineup, now snag Losira :D
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37034 Posts
June 06 2012 14:28 GMT
#59
HOLY SHIT! DAT LINE UP!!!

This is going to be awesome Oo
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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TheRealNanMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1471 Posts
June 06 2012 14:58 GMT
#60
Daaaamn these line ups are looks awesome! :D Good Luck to everyone who ends up playing in this
Sc2 Caster | Host of Sc2 Up & Coming | The Godfather of Team LXG | Sc2 Historian | Youtube.com/NanMan | Twitch.tv/TheRealNanMan | Twitter.com/TheRealNanMan |
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