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tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
May 31 2012 10:00 GMT
#801
If that strategy is as imba as everyone claims, I'm sure we would see pros using it a lot more. I'm pretty sure burrow move roaches could deal with it pretty well.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
May 31 2012 10:00 GMT
#802
Tassadar tried the ramp ff as well the first game but Zenio had units there and was ready for it so Tassadar just went for the 3rd to try and do some damage. If you have some lings/roaches there when he unloads the sentries you'll have no problem stopping this as they'll die instantly and before the warpins are ready.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
May 31 2012 10:00 GMT
#803
If you think that strategy is easy to do, you're wrong.

Y'know how it's hard to remember an inject every 40 seconds when lots of stuff is going on? Imagine it's 15. And if you don't hit it at the exact time, you just die. Not just that, but that inject every 40 seconds is literally all the macro you have to do, and if you don't hit the inject in the small specific location of the hatchery it doesn't work. It's not ludicrously difficult such that only progamers can do it, but it's not baby's first abusive all-in either.
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
May 31 2012 10:00 GMT
#804
On May 31 2012 18:56 Kotschmonaut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 18:55 theolysis wrote:
On May 31 2012 18:54 EatCrow wrote:
Remove forcefield.
Nerf marauder.
Nerf roach.

Starcraft is a much better game!!!

Remember the Brood War days when we actually innovated instead of just complained and hoped Blizzard would make things easier for us?


hes not talking about balance he talks about shitty designed units / abilities.

btw we once again saw why no1 uses nydus. even unspotted, its still useless. surely needs a rework in hots


They were mentioning 'different kinds' of Nydus worm. So something may be in the works on that front.

But yeah, as it's designed now Nydus rarely works. Combination of slow as hell unload + the units you're unloading are weaker than everything that'll be trying to kill them. Oh yeah and the Nydus worm itself can be easily killed by probes.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
May 31 2012 10:00 GMT
#805
On May 31 2012 18:58 Fionn wrote:
Usually when down 2-0 in a Bo9, the next game isn't a must-win...

But yeah, this is must-win.

Either way TL is now pretty much screwed assuming they can snipe TaeJa without losing too many people. They'll just save Jjakji for HerO and that will likely not go well for us.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12056 Posts
May 31 2012 10:00 GMT
#806
Taeja was my hero on SlayerS and he's my hero on Liquid. TAEJA FIGHTING <3
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
May 31 2012 10:00 GMT
#807
Man, TL is so disadvantaged by sheer numbers this GSTL.. Was there any consideration of letting some of the ex-oGs players act as ringers? heh.. ;_;
gengka
Profile Joined September 2010
Malaysia461 Posts
May 31 2012 10:00 GMT
#808
GOGO TAEJA LETS KICK SOME NSHS ASSES!!!
Make Love Not War
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
May 31 2012 10:00 GMT
#809
On May 31 2012 18:59 Ercster wrote:
What's with the shit luck so far for TL?


It's called skill, and they don't have it for GSTL.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
BlindKill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Australia1508 Posts
May 31 2012 10:00 GMT
#810
On May 31 2012 18:59 Original exxo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 18:58 BlindKill wrote:
Dude just connect a nydus between your main and your expo. that would actually counter this build albeit at high gas cost


LOL!
You cant be serious...


I'm actually serious dude. This build is so full of shit a 200 gas investment might be worth it.
“Life is a grindstone, and whether it grinds a man down or polishes him up depends on the stuff he's made of.”
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
May 31 2012 10:00 GMT
#811
Comon Taeja time to carry some foreigners!
The curse is real
setmeal
Profile Joined March 2011
162 Posts
May 31 2012 10:00 GMT
#812
Taeja playing well. He can take this and all kill!!
synaptik
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada644 Posts
May 31 2012 10:00 GMT
#813
if TL wants to remain competitive they should just buy all koreans like FXO did.
Tarotis
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Germany1931 Posts
May 31 2012 10:00 GMT
#814
On May 31 2012 19:00 tomatriedes wrote:
If that strategy is as imba as everyone claims, I'm sure we would see pros using it a lot more. I'm pretty sure burrow move roaches could deal with it pretty well.

Yup, because there is no observer involved in this build
Jono7272
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom6330 Posts
May 31 2012 10:00 GMT
#815
On May 31 2012 18:59 KiNGxXx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 18:57 TheSwamp wrote:
On May 31 2012 18:55 Teael wrote:
How is this the most technical allin... What's hard about forcefielding a ramp?


If you misplace the force field you have to put down a second one.

Read this with Idra's voice! LOL

Haha, that definitely sounded like an Idra quote.
Innovation | Flash | Mvp | Byun | TY
LeoLeo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden456 Posts
May 31 2012 10:00 GMT
#816
Expecting Taeja to go super boss mode and destroy everything.
Bacon, Orangina and chilling
Malaz
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1257 Posts
May 31 2012 10:01 GMT
#817
On May 31 2012 18:59 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 18:56 pdd wrote:
On May 31 2012 18:54 ImNightmare wrote:
Fuck this strat, the timing is too short for zerg to react to and its way to advantageous for protoss without any set backs

He saw the robo and his saw blink researching. He should have been more prepared in his main. Even if the Robo built an observer rather than a warp prism blink stalkers into the main was a possibility and he really should have stayed defensive for that. It's not as imbalanced as people think it is. 6-10 roaches in the main would have been sufficient.


6-10 roaches would not have come close to holding all those stalkers unless TLO immediately knew to target the sentries immediately. That would be the only way I could realistically see 6-10 roaches working, if he eliminates the FFs (baring the first, the first FF WILL go up. No matter what you do the first goes up)


And you can't really snipe the sentries because the toss can just put them in the warp prism until he needs another FF.
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 10:01:46
May 31 2012 10:01 GMT
#818
Yes Khaldor, this is so damn strong. Or you get really really really really lucky and can snipe it.
The curse is real
Thugtronik
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand452 Posts
May 31 2012 10:01 GMT
#819
On May 31 2012 18:57 C-ZG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 18:56 Thugtronik wrote:
On May 31 2012 18:55 C-ZG wrote:
these casters are so biased it's making me angry


what do you expect? foreigners casting a game with a foreign team in a primarily korean tournament...


It might sounds strange to you but I'm interested in playstyle and gameplay, not the race of the player.


my point is that if you compare it to traditional sports it's exactly the same. whenever i watch a local sports team play on an international level with home commentators they are clearly biased.

go learn korean and listen to the korean stream if it bothers you that much
DIG DIG COME ON LET ME DIG I CAN DETECT
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 31 2012 10:01 GMT
#820
On May 31 2012 18:59 kenkou wrote:
I know it may have been a bit late for TLO that game, but if you scout that build, couldn't you build a nydus in the back of your main and one in your natural/third to connect the bases?

High cost without certainty it is the allin and not some sentry pressure.

I guess you need 5 roaches on top of your ramp. So the sentries can't unload.
I had a good night of sleep.
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