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[SPL] SK Telecom T1 vs. Woongjin Stars - Page 29

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Grobnik
Profile Joined January 2012
United States119 Posts
May 29 2012 09:04 GMT
#561
On May 29 2012 18:03 raga4ka wrote:
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On May 29 2012 17:58 Scarecrow wrote:
Neither of those players should've been sent for ace considering both lost badly in their earlier games


Jaedong lost badly the other day and owned the ACE match .


That's probably been the high point of this season of Proleague so far. I think from a drama standpoint they should just trot out the big names for Ace matches if their SC2 isn't too abysmal.
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
May 29 2012 09:05 GMT
#562
On May 29 2012 18:04 KristofferAG wrote:
I'll add VODs when they're all up.


Thanks, one time I went to access EsportsTV youtube archives and they were private.
Support your esport!
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
May 29 2012 09:06 GMT
#563
On May 29 2012 18:05 Alabasern wrote:
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On May 29 2012 18:04 KristofferAG wrote:
I'll add VODs when they're all up.


Thanks, one time I went to access EsportsTV youtube archives and they were private.

Really? Weird. Could be they just accidentaly marked it as private.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
May 29 2012 09:08 GMT
#564
stars ftw skt got dominated in sc2
savior did nothing wrong
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
May 29 2012 09:10 GMT
#565
Wouldn't say dominated. Reverse all-kill from Woongjin though
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
May 29 2012 09:14 GMT
#566
On May 29 2012 17:49 bgx wrote:
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On May 29 2012 17:40 Klogon wrote:
On May 29 2012 17:38 KristofferAG wrote:
On May 29 2012 17:36 Klogon wrote:
I love how when we watch proleague, everybody and their moms is a strategic genius in SC2 compared to these guys.

Easy to say what they should do, not easy to put yourself in their seat. It's always been like that, not just in Proleague.


It's also easy to be wrong. I'd say people are wrong more often than they are right, but usually people don't say these things when they watch GLS because there is just the implicit credibility of being in the GSL. But people are just more vocal when watching PL and are so strong so often.

The thing is its incredibly easy to be right as spectator in sc2, there is close to 0 information hidden. If you are master + and you watch "your" MU. You can almost always deduce optimal play/sub optimal play. Im not saying that makes even close to being as good as them but thats the difference beetwen playing and watching. There was never a game without a mistake in both BW and SC2, but its incredibly easy to point out mistake in SC2. Glance at production tab, glance at resource tab, see overlord finish timing, say: XXX supply blocked. BAM mistake.

I can say without any exaggeration that Jangbi's build from last night was a horrible choice and nobody should use it in that situation. It has been completely phased out of viability with the rise of the proper 3 hatch roach/ling build and it is only effective against some 2 base plays by zerg that never happen anymore at professional levels.

Yes, some comments are really critical and are based on information the players didn't have, but overall a lot of the criticism is justified and the players do have a long way to go. There is a lot of play in Proleague so far for SC2 that simply looks like mid-tier NA masters league play. Odds are some of these players are simply not practicing enough or against the best players on their team, as the teams tend to have a huge variance between extremely good SC2 play and really poor play.
Creator of sc2unmasked.com
GreenGT
Profile Joined November 2009
Ukraine134 Posts
May 29 2012 09:26 GMT
#567
EsportsTV just uploading 480p VoDs on youtube. No one know where to find HD 720p VODs that cast through "Paste link in VLC for OGN SC2 HD stream: http://hd.ognp2p.gscdn.com/ognhdlive"
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
May 29 2012 09:38 GMT
#568
On May 29 2012 18:26 GreenGT wrote:
EsportsTV just uploading 480p VoDs on youtube. No one know where to find HD 720p VODs that cast through "Paste link in VLC for OGN SC2 HD stream: http://hd.ognp2p.gscdn.com/ognhdlive"

I'd recommend vods of a restream like sayle's or bobo's. I have some vods of casts over the last week as well, not including tonight (I cast with bobo).
Creator of sc2unmasked.com
Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
May 29 2012 09:40 GMT
#569
From when I have modded the sounds, i can't stand the SC2 shitty sounds, really too disgusting...
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
May 29 2012 09:51 GMT
#570
free / soo are on the wrong team in the OP?
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
May 29 2012 10:11 GMT
#571
Yes Bisu won !!! ^_^^_^^_^
But SKT lost !!! T_TT_TT_T
Khassar de Templari
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
May 29 2012 13:11 GMT
#572
Preparing for the previous pl final+ winning it+ hawaii holiday = bad sc2 performance for SKT1.

No further explanation needed imo.
CptGrackSparrow
Profile Joined February 2011
United States278 Posts
May 29 2012 13:44 GMT
#573
could someone please explain to me the different rounds (round 1, 2 and 3) in proleague? i don't understand their purpose or if there's a reward for having the best record following a particular round.
Xivax
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden31 Posts
May 29 2012 14:08 GMT
#574
At least Bisu won!
I guess that's Terran for you - Liquid'Jinro
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 14:18:14
May 29 2012 14:17 GMT
#575
On May 29 2012 22:44 CptGrackSparrow wrote:
could someone please explain to me the different rounds (round 1, 2 and 3) in proleague? i don't understand their purpose or if there's a reward for having the best record following a particular round.


There's multiple rounds so there are more matches for the fans to watch, at the end of the " regular season " when all the rounds end the top 4 teams advance to the playoffs. Teams 3 and 4 play then the winner of that vs 2 and the 1st place of the regular season is seeded directly into the grand finals.
CptGrackSparrow
Profile Joined February 2011
United States278 Posts
May 29 2012 14:54 GMT
#576
On May 29 2012 23:17 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 22:44 CptGrackSparrow wrote:
could someone please explain to me the different rounds (round 1, 2 and 3) in proleague? i don't understand their purpose or if there's a reward for having the best record following a particular round.


There's multiple rounds so there are more matches for the fans to watch, at the end of the " regular season " when all the rounds end the top 4 teams advance to the playoffs. Teams 3 and 4 play then the winner of that vs 2 and the 1st place of the regular season is seeded directly into the grand finals.


So is there a week or two break between rounds? I don't see the purpose of defining the different rounds. It's just one long regular season and top 4 advance. This is the equivalent of baseball saying all games before the allstar break are in round 1 and all games after in round 2. The rounds really mean nothing all that matters is the standings at the end.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
May 29 2012 15:03 GMT
#577
On May 29 2012 23:54 CptGrackSparrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 23:17 Dodgin wrote:
On May 29 2012 22:44 CptGrackSparrow wrote:
could someone please explain to me the different rounds (round 1, 2 and 3) in proleague? i don't understand their purpose or if there's a reward for having the best record following a particular round.


There's multiple rounds so there are more matches for the fans to watch, at the end of the " regular season " when all the rounds end the top 4 teams advance to the playoffs. Teams 3 and 4 play then the winner of that vs 2 and the 1st place of the regular season is seeded directly into the grand finals.


So is there a week or two break between rounds? I don't see the purpose of defining the different rounds. It's just one long regular season and top 4 advance. This is the equivalent of baseball saying all games before the allstar break are in round 1 and all games after in round 2. The rounds really mean nothing all that matters is the standings at the end.

Um. It's just 1 round of round robin. Every 1 round, the teams play each other once. 3 rounds = each team plays the other teams 3 times. That's it.
Writer:o
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 15:04:15
May 29 2012 15:03 GMT
#578
On May 29 2012 23:54 CptGrackSparrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 23:17 Dodgin wrote:
On May 29 2012 22:44 CptGrackSparrow wrote:
could someone please explain to me the different rounds (round 1, 2 and 3) in proleague? i don't understand their purpose or if there's a reward for having the best record following a particular round.


There's multiple rounds so there are more matches for the fans to watch, at the end of the " regular season " when all the rounds end the top 4 teams advance to the playoffs. Teams 3 and 4 play then the winner of that vs 2 and the 1st place of the regular season is seeded directly into the grand finals.


So is there a week or two break between rounds? I don't see the purpose of defining the different rounds. It's just one long regular season and top 4 advance. This is the equivalent of baseball saying all games before the allstar break are in round 1 and all games after in round 2. The rounds really mean nothing all that matters is the standings at the end.


It's because each team plays every other team once in a round, so when that rotation finishes they call that one round and it resets and they play every other team again. It's a distinction just for the sake of it from what I understand, no real meaning behind it.

ninja'd so hard...
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
May 29 2012 15:15 GMT
#579
no vods out yet? :/
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
phil.ipp
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria1067 Posts
May 29 2012 17:16 GMT
#580
why upload only 480p vods? where do KESPA live? in the stoneage .. seriously very PROFESSIONAL !!
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