• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:18
CET 10:18
KST 18:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros5[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win52025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!9BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION1Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams10Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest4
StarCraft 2
General
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" DreamHack Open 2013 revealed
Tourneys
SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment
Brood War
General
Buy drivers license SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread The Big Programming Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
KPDH "Golden" as Squid Game…
Peanutsc
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
The Benefits Of Limited Comm…
TrAiDoS
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1611 users

[SPL] SK Telecom T1 vs. Woongjin Stars - Page 29

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 27 28 29 30 Next All
Grobnik
Profile Joined January 2012
United States119 Posts
May 29 2012 09:04 GMT
#561
On May 29 2012 18:03 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 17:58 Scarecrow wrote:
Neither of those players should've been sent for ace considering both lost badly in their earlier games


Jaedong lost badly the other day and owned the ACE match .


That's probably been the high point of this season of Proleague so far. I think from a drama standpoint they should just trot out the big names for Ace matches if their SC2 isn't too abysmal.
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
May 29 2012 09:05 GMT
#562
On May 29 2012 18:04 KristofferAG wrote:
I'll add VODs when they're all up.


Thanks, one time I went to access EsportsTV youtube archives and they were private.
Support your esport!
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
May 29 2012 09:06 GMT
#563
On May 29 2012 18:05 Alabasern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 18:04 KristofferAG wrote:
I'll add VODs when they're all up.


Thanks, one time I went to access EsportsTV youtube archives and they were private.

Really? Weird. Could be they just accidentaly marked it as private.
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
May 29 2012 09:08 GMT
#564
stars ftw skt got dominated in sc2
savior did nothing wrong
KristofferAG
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Norway25712 Posts
May 29 2012 09:10 GMT
#565
Wouldn't say dominated. Reverse all-kill from Woongjin though
@KristofferAG | http://vestkyststoy.bandcamp.com | last.fm/user/KristofferAG
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
May 29 2012 09:14 GMT
#566
On May 29 2012 17:49 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 17:40 Klogon wrote:
On May 29 2012 17:38 KristofferAG wrote:
On May 29 2012 17:36 Klogon wrote:
I love how when we watch proleague, everybody and their moms is a strategic genius in SC2 compared to these guys.

Easy to say what they should do, not easy to put yourself in their seat. It's always been like that, not just in Proleague.


It's also easy to be wrong. I'd say people are wrong more often than they are right, but usually people don't say these things when they watch GLS because there is just the implicit credibility of being in the GSL. But people are just more vocal when watching PL and are so strong so often.

The thing is its incredibly easy to be right as spectator in sc2, there is close to 0 information hidden. If you are master + and you watch "your" MU. You can almost always deduce optimal play/sub optimal play. Im not saying that makes even close to being as good as them but thats the difference beetwen playing and watching. There was never a game without a mistake in both BW and SC2, but its incredibly easy to point out mistake in SC2. Glance at production tab, glance at resource tab, see overlord finish timing, say: XXX supply blocked. BAM mistake.

I can say without any exaggeration that Jangbi's build from last night was a horrible choice and nobody should use it in that situation. It has been completely phased out of viability with the rise of the proper 3 hatch roach/ling build and it is only effective against some 2 base plays by zerg that never happen anymore at professional levels.

Yes, some comments are really critical and are based on information the players didn't have, but overall a lot of the criticism is justified and the players do have a long way to go. There is a lot of play in Proleague so far for SC2 that simply looks like mid-tier NA masters league play. Odds are some of these players are simply not practicing enough or against the best players on their team, as the teams tend to have a huge variance between extremely good SC2 play and really poor play.
Creator of sc2unmasked.com
GreenGT
Profile Joined November 2009
Ukraine134 Posts
May 29 2012 09:26 GMT
#567
EsportsTV just uploading 480p VoDs on youtube. No one know where to find HD 720p VODs that cast through "Paste link in VLC for OGN SC2 HD stream: http://hd.ognp2p.gscdn.com/ognhdlive"
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
May 29 2012 09:38 GMT
#568
On May 29 2012 18:26 GreenGT wrote:
EsportsTV just uploading 480p VoDs on youtube. No one know where to find HD 720p VODs that cast through "Paste link in VLC for OGN SC2 HD stream: http://hd.ognp2p.gscdn.com/ognhdlive"

I'd recommend vods of a restream like sayle's or bobo's. I have some vods of casts over the last week as well, not including tonight (I cast with bobo).
Creator of sc2unmasked.com
Garmer
Profile Joined October 2010
1286 Posts
May 29 2012 09:40 GMT
#569
From when I have modded the sounds, i can't stand the SC2 shitty sounds, really too disgusting...
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
May 29 2012 09:51 GMT
#570
free / soo are on the wrong team in the OP?
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
May 29 2012 10:11 GMT
#571
Yes Bisu won !!! ^_^^_^^_^
But SKT lost !!! T_TT_TT_T
Khassar de Templari
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
May 29 2012 13:11 GMT
#572
Preparing for the previous pl final+ winning it+ hawaii holiday = bad sc2 performance for SKT1.

No further explanation needed imo.
CptGrackSparrow
Profile Joined February 2011
United States278 Posts
May 29 2012 13:44 GMT
#573
could someone please explain to me the different rounds (round 1, 2 and 3) in proleague? i don't understand their purpose or if there's a reward for having the best record following a particular round.
Xivax
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden31 Posts
May 29 2012 14:08 GMT
#574
At least Bisu won!
I guess that's Terran for you - Liquid'Jinro
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 14:18:14
May 29 2012 14:17 GMT
#575
On May 29 2012 22:44 CptGrackSparrow wrote:
could someone please explain to me the different rounds (round 1, 2 and 3) in proleague? i don't understand their purpose or if there's a reward for having the best record following a particular round.


There's multiple rounds so there are more matches for the fans to watch, at the end of the " regular season " when all the rounds end the top 4 teams advance to the playoffs. Teams 3 and 4 play then the winner of that vs 2 and the 1st place of the regular season is seeded directly into the grand finals.
CptGrackSparrow
Profile Joined February 2011
United States278 Posts
May 29 2012 14:54 GMT
#576
On May 29 2012 23:17 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 22:44 CptGrackSparrow wrote:
could someone please explain to me the different rounds (round 1, 2 and 3) in proleague? i don't understand their purpose or if there's a reward for having the best record following a particular round.


There's multiple rounds so there are more matches for the fans to watch, at the end of the " regular season " when all the rounds end the top 4 teams advance to the playoffs. Teams 3 and 4 play then the winner of that vs 2 and the 1st place of the regular season is seeded directly into the grand finals.


So is there a week or two break between rounds? I don't see the purpose of defining the different rounds. It's just one long regular season and top 4 advance. This is the equivalent of baseball saying all games before the allstar break are in round 1 and all games after in round 2. The rounds really mean nothing all that matters is the standings at the end.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
May 29 2012 15:03 GMT
#577
On May 29 2012 23:54 CptGrackSparrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 23:17 Dodgin wrote:
On May 29 2012 22:44 CptGrackSparrow wrote:
could someone please explain to me the different rounds (round 1, 2 and 3) in proleague? i don't understand their purpose or if there's a reward for having the best record following a particular round.


There's multiple rounds so there are more matches for the fans to watch, at the end of the " regular season " when all the rounds end the top 4 teams advance to the playoffs. Teams 3 and 4 play then the winner of that vs 2 and the 1st place of the regular season is seeded directly into the grand finals.


So is there a week or two break between rounds? I don't see the purpose of defining the different rounds. It's just one long regular season and top 4 advance. This is the equivalent of baseball saying all games before the allstar break are in round 1 and all games after in round 2. The rounds really mean nothing all that matters is the standings at the end.

Um. It's just 1 round of round robin. Every 1 round, the teams play each other once. 3 rounds = each team plays the other teams 3 times. That's it.
Writer:o
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-29 15:04:15
May 29 2012 15:03 GMT
#578
On May 29 2012 23:54 CptGrackSparrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2012 23:17 Dodgin wrote:
On May 29 2012 22:44 CptGrackSparrow wrote:
could someone please explain to me the different rounds (round 1, 2 and 3) in proleague? i don't understand their purpose or if there's a reward for having the best record following a particular round.


There's multiple rounds so there are more matches for the fans to watch, at the end of the " regular season " when all the rounds end the top 4 teams advance to the playoffs. Teams 3 and 4 play then the winner of that vs 2 and the 1st place of the regular season is seeded directly into the grand finals.


So is there a week or two break between rounds? I don't see the purpose of defining the different rounds. It's just one long regular season and top 4 advance. This is the equivalent of baseball saying all games before the allstar break are in round 1 and all games after in round 2. The rounds really mean nothing all that matters is the standings at the end.


It's because each team plays every other team once in a round, so when that rotation finishes they call that one round and it resets and they play every other team again. It's a distinction just for the sake of it from what I understand, no real meaning behind it.

ninja'd so hard...
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
May 29 2012 15:15 GMT
#579
no vods out yet? :/
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
phil.ipp
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria1067 Posts
May 29 2012 17:16 GMT
#580
why upload only 480p vods? where do KESPA live? in the stoneage .. seriously very PROFESSIONAL !!
Prev 1 27 28 29 30 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
09:00
Crank Gathers S2: Playoffs D2
CranKy Ducklings32
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 91
StarCraft: Brood War
Hyuk 3625
Mong 425
actioN 353
Stork 302
PianO 107
JulyZerg 97
Sharp 80
Aegong 75
NaDa 34
Sacsri 26
[ Show more ]
NotJumperer 16
Dota 2
XaKoH 524
ODPixel282
League of Legends
JimRising 767
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss540
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor38
Other Games
summit1g14228
singsing1004
ceh9389
Happy178
NeuroSwarm56
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL7562
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 19
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2192
• Lourlo583
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
2h 42m
ByuN vs Spirit
herO vs Solar
MaNa vs Gerald
Rogue vs GuMiho
Epic.LAN
2h 42m
CrankTV Team League
3h 42m
BASILISK vs Team Liquid
Epic.LAN
1d 2h
BSL Team A[vengers]
1d 4h
Dewalt vs Shine
UltrA vs ZeLoT
BSL 21
1d 9h
BSL Team A[vengers]
2 days
Cross vs Motive
Sziky vs HiyA
BSL 21
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
WardiTV TLMC #15
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
BSL 21 Team A
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.