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mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
May 27 2012 23:10 GMT
#3061
On May 28 2012 08:06 redviper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:04 mrtomjones wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:02 xrapture wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:52 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:48 Gladiator333 wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:48 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Poll: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

DRG (85)
 
62%

Stephano (52)
 
38%

137 total votes

Your vote: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

(Vote): DRG
(Vote): Stephano



No love for NesTea as well?


Nestea is nowhere near as good as those two vs P

I'd say
Stephano DRG vs toss
Leenock DRG vs terran
Nestea DRG vs zerg

DRG obviously being the best zerg :p viOlet being a third in both ZvP and ZvZ or something.


honestly players like seal, symbol, and curious are better than Stephano in every matchup.

Tournaments like this are so much different than GSL because no one is preparing for Stephano.

I really think he competed in the GSL he would be demolished down to Code B almost immediately.

Making comments like that is pretty ignorant. Until Stephano plays in GSL you wont know if these results will translate over. He is VERY good. I'm not even a huge Stephano fan but anyone saying otherwise is lying to themselves.



Then shouldn't he actually play in the GSL? Whats stopping him. What was the last thing big tourney Stephano won?

From what I know he is going to go to Korea soonish so Id assume he will join it with a code S seed. Also he is playing for money so avoiding it has been in his best interest since he can play more tournies outside of it.
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
May 27 2012 23:10 GMT
#3062
the famous all ins from ipl lol
Mmm, what to watch.
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
May 27 2012 23:11 GMT
#3063
On May 28 2012 08:09 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:05 The_Darkness wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:02 xrapture wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:52 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:48 Gladiator333 wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:48 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Poll: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

DRG (85)
 
62%

Stephano (52)
 
38%

137 total votes

Your vote: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

(Vote): DRG
(Vote): Stephano



No love for NesTea as well?


Nestea is nowhere near as good as those two vs P

I'd say
Stephano DRG vs toss
Leenock DRG vs terran
Nestea DRG vs zerg

DRG obviously being the best zerg :p viOlet being a third in both ZvP and ZvZ or something.


honestly players like seal, symbol, and curious are better than Stephano in every matchup.

Tournaments like this are so much different than GSL because no one is preparing for Stephano.

I really think he competed in the GSL he would be demolished down to Code B almost immediately.


We thank you for your nuanced "honest" opinion. I will let GomTV know that you already know the result if Stephano is offered a Code S spot so they don't waste our time.


Judging by your last few posts, its pretty clear you're an upset Stephano fan.

The guy is welcome to his own opinion. We don't need your smart ass remarks.

Or he is tired of trolling Stephano.
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
May 27 2012 23:12 GMT
#3064
On May 28 2012 08:08 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:05 mrtomjones wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:04 BlackGosu wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:03 Mentalizor wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:02 JerKy wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:00 SpiZe wrote:
Are koreans really small, or Wheat is really tall ?


I think its both. If the two korean players are Smix's height, they're pretty short, and I'm pretty sure Wheat is a decent height himself, maybe 5'10" or 6'


Am I too scandinavian for saying 6' is not really tall at all? I'm 6'6" and tons of friends (and my brother) are still taller than me

you are TALL. 6'0 is already taller than average

6'0" is quite common where I am from but someone being 6'6" and having "tons" of friends taller than him seems hard to believe

He hangs out in Valhalla a lot.


Also Scandinavian - norwegian, almost 6 feet (1.82m) is the average for a 20-29 male here. South Korea is almost 10cm below (4 inches). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 23:21:11
May 27 2012 23:12 GMT
#3065
The funny thing is you really could honestly consider Stephano as one of the top zergs in the world, if not the top. Since 2012, according to his TLPD, he has won 71% of his games. He's lost to MMA, Nestea, MC (won once, lost twice), Violet (won once, lost once), Life, Jjakji, Hero, Symbol, and Polt (who he trades games with). Yes, that's a lot, but almost every single player there has been Code S Ro8, with the exception of Life, who beat him at Iron Squid, and Violet, who hasn't done GSL lately but I think anybody could agree that the guy is damn good. He also lost to symbol, but he was kind of hung over

On the other hand, he has beat Ganzi (Code S), Ryung (Code S), MC (Code S) at MLG, Curious (Code S), Violet (MLG champion), Parting (Code S), Bomber (Who can be code S), trades regularly with Polt (Who barely missed Code S), and JYP (tied for 3rd in his UnD).

I probably missed somebody, but pretty much every single person who beat Stephano has been a code S champion. With the exception of Life (No idea what happened), Symbol (hungover) and Violet (hungover) XD. The guy is pretty good, I think most people would agree that he could be code S caliber, and definitely code A caliber.

Edit: Yes he isn't the top, didn't mean to imply that. But not many zergs have better results.
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canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
May 27 2012 23:12 GMT
#3066
2 base collosus. Innovative strats.
ShAdZ_ZX
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia635 Posts
May 27 2012 23:12 GMT
#3067
On May 28 2012 08:10 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:06 redviper wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:04 mrtomjones wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:02 xrapture wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:52 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:48 Gladiator333 wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:48 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Poll: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

DRG (85)
 
62%

Stephano (52)
 
38%

137 total votes

Your vote: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

(Vote): DRG
(Vote): Stephano



No love for NesTea as well?


Nestea is nowhere near as good as those two vs P

I'd say
Stephano DRG vs toss
Leenock DRG vs terran
Nestea DRG vs zerg

DRG obviously being the best zerg :p viOlet being a third in both ZvP and ZvZ or something.


honestly players like seal, symbol, and curious are better than Stephano in every matchup.

Tournaments like this are so much different than GSL because no one is preparing for Stephano.

I really think he competed in the GSL he would be demolished down to Code B almost immediately.

Making comments like that is pretty ignorant. Until Stephano plays in GSL you wont know if these results will translate over. He is VERY good. I'm not even a huge Stephano fan but anyone saying otherwise is lying to themselves.



Then shouldn't he actually play in the GSL? Whats stopping him. What was the last thing big tourney Stephano won?


The better question is, what was the last big tourney other NA/EU players finished better than Stephano in?


The discussion is on how people think Stephano would fair in Code S. How other foreigners have been performing is irrelevant to that.
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
May 27 2012 23:12 GMT
#3068
there is another match going on guys lol
savior did nothing wrong
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
May 27 2012 23:12 GMT
#3069
Classic squirtle all in inc.
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
May 27 2012 23:12 GMT
#3070
On May 28 2012 08:12 canikizu wrote:
2 base collosus. Innovative strats.

Winning is better than innovating for players livelihoods.
coolyou
Profile Joined December 2010
United States958 Posts
May 27 2012 23:12 GMT
#3071
0 vikings can't see bomber holding this
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
May 27 2012 23:13 GMT
#3072
Is there any reason Terrans don't just basetrade against this all-in?
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
redviper
Profile Joined May 2010
Pakistan2333 Posts
May 27 2012 23:13 GMT
#3073
On May 28 2012 08:10 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:06 redviper wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:04 mrtomjones wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:02 xrapture wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:52 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:48 Gladiator333 wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:48 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Poll: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

DRG (85)
 
62%

Stephano (52)
 
38%

137 total votes

Your vote: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

(Vote): DRG
(Vote): Stephano



No love for NesTea as well?


Nestea is nowhere near as good as those two vs P

I'd say
Stephano DRG vs toss
Leenock DRG vs terran
Nestea DRG vs zerg

DRG obviously being the best zerg :p viOlet being a third in both ZvP and ZvZ or something.


honestly players like seal, symbol, and curious are better than Stephano in every matchup.

Tournaments like this are so much different than GSL because no one is preparing for Stephano.

I really think he competed in the GSL he would be demolished down to Code B almost immediately.

Making comments like that is pretty ignorant. Until Stephano plays in GSL you wont know if these results will translate over. He is VERY good. I'm not even a huge Stephano fan but anyone saying otherwise is lying to themselves.



Then shouldn't he actually play in the GSL? Whats stopping him. What was the last thing big tourney Stephano won?


The better question is, what was the last big tourney other NA/EU players finished better than Stephano in?



That would be a good question if GSL was only played by NA/EU players. Hint: It isn't. Stephano will get crushed.

The only foreigners who could compete are Thorzain and Naniwa.
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
May 27 2012 23:13 GMT
#3074
On May 28 2012 07:50 MentalGNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 07:44 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
How can people not like MC? Such an awesome personality and once again proves he can macro like a boss!

His personality is awesome - no doubt about that. For me, it's his playstyle that makes me not like him so much. He is a very skilled player, but none of his games seems to have the kind of back & forth action that makes SC exiting.
A large portion of his wins come from all-ins, or at the very least games where there is only 1 fight that MC wins because of great control and then proceeds to win the game.

I don't dislike him at all - I believe a player should play to his strengths which MC clearly does. It's just that his strength produces games that I don't find entertaining.


I used to think this as well, but I think hes been playing a lot more long term games lately just from what I've seen. Sometimes he mixes in the occasional 2 base push/mass forcefield, but every good player mixes up their builds.
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
May 27 2012 23:13 GMT
#3075
Every time same thing PvT from Squirtle. I hate it.
All I do is Stim.
Kubricks
Profile Joined November 2011
284 Posts
May 27 2012 23:14 GMT
#3076
2 base bullshit.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
May 27 2012 23:14 GMT
#3077
On May 28 2012 08:09 ShAdZ_ZX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 08:05 The_Darkness wrote:
On May 28 2012 08:02 xrapture wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:52 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:48 Gladiator333 wrote:
On May 28 2012 07:48 ZeroSC2 wrote:
Poll: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

DRG (85)
 
62%

Stephano (52)
 
38%

137 total votes

Your vote: DRG or Stephano now #1 ZvP ?

(Vote): DRG
(Vote): Stephano



No love for NesTea as well?


Nestea is nowhere near as good as those two vs P

I'd say
Stephano DRG vs toss
Leenock DRG vs terran
Nestea DRG vs zerg

DRG obviously being the best zerg :p viOlet being a third in both ZvP and ZvZ or something.


honestly players like seal, symbol, and curious are better than Stephano in every matchup.

Tournaments like this are so much different than GSL because no one is preparing for Stephano.

I really think he competed in the GSL he would be demolished down to Code B almost immediately.


We thank you for your nuanced "honest" opinion. I will let GomTV know that you already know the result if Stephano is offered a Code S spot so they don't waste our time.


Judging by your last few posts, its pretty clear you're an upset Stephano fan.

The guy is welcome to his own opinion. We don't need your smart ass remarks.


Whereas xrapture is basically a Stephano anti-fan and does this every time Stephano plays. Pot, meet kettle.
SpiZe
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada3640 Posts
May 27 2012 23:14 GMT
#3078
Concussive !
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 27 2012 23:14 GMT
#3079
wow he held the squirtle timing attack without bunkers pre made and getting caught out of position, impressive.
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
May 27 2012 23:14 GMT
#3080
oh man that 3rd bunker is holding the line so well
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