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-TesteR-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1165 Posts
May 27 2012 22:02 GMT
#2281
On May 28 2012 07:00 ImNightmare wrote:
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On May 28 2012 06:59 Jetaap wrote:
What was MC's opening, nexus first or classic forge expand? I remember Stephano saying that nexus first + 7gate was the blind counter to what his roach max strat because it hits before a normal 7 gate and he doesn't have enough roaches to defend.

nexus first, and yeah, this is the counter to max roach. I lost to it yesterday too. Think protoss have finally learned the counter. Like finally.


blind nexus first 7 gate only counter to max roach for protoss? seems legit..
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
May 27 2012 22:03 GMT
#2282
On May 28 2012 07:01 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 07:00 ImNightmare wrote:
On May 28 2012 06:59 Jetaap wrote:
What was MC's opening, nexus first or classic forge expand? I remember Stephano saying that nexus first + 7gate was the blind counter to what his roach max strat because it hits before a normal 7 gate and he doesn't have enough roaches to defend.

nexus first, and yeah, this is the counter to max roach. I lost to it yesterday too. Think protoss have finally learned the counter. Like finally.

I don't consider it an actual counter though, similar Stargate play was a good counter to the old 1/1/1 but was pretty bad against a lot of other builds

Plus it's an all-in. We'll figure something more versatile out

yeah.. its pretty blind, but its actually quite difficult to hold especially if a zerg only knows max roach 3 base. Still, I would say it works until diamond.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
May 27 2012 22:03 GMT
#2283
C'mon Stephano you can do it.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
May 27 2012 22:03 GMT
#2284
spore ? :|
Terran & Potato Salad.
tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
May 27 2012 22:03 GMT
#2285
On May 28 2012 07:00 Sc2Null wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 06:59 tuestresfat wrote:
On May 28 2012 06:58 Sc2Null wrote:
On May 28 2012 06:57 bsball8806 wrote:
I feel like stephano is econ cheesing in his ZvPs, especially when he loses to an all in that soundly (not sacrificing overlords, making more drones when he sees the pylons going down). That wasn't a very close game and 7gates are something that zergs can stop relatively easily.


wtf is econ cheesing..are people just making up terms these days?

people have been tossing that idea around forever, where've you been?


what is it suppose to mean exactly lol?

an example would be if zerg powers drones really hard in a time where he has no way of confirming toss/terran won't just push and kill him. He has not attained enough scouting information to confirm a push is not coming and is essentially crossing his fingers as he has no way of stopping said push if it does come. It's a really risky decision/build (as cheese usually is) that if you get away with it will pay off big time.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
May 27 2012 22:03 GMT
#2286
Rofl, MC must have been confused when he saw the Spore Crawler.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 22:04:03
May 27 2012 22:03 GMT
#2287
On May 28 2012 07:01 xrapture wrote:
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On May 28 2012 06:58 Sc2Null wrote:
On May 28 2012 06:57 bsball8806 wrote:
I feel like stephano is econ cheesing in his ZvPs, especially when he loses to an all in that soundly (not sacrificing overlords, making more drones when he sees the pylons going down). That wasn't a very close game and 7gates are something that zergs can stop relatively easily.


wtf is econ cheesing..are people just making up terms these days?


blind 17 nexus pvz, cc first into fast 3rd cc, Ret droning to 70 drones with 2 lings and 1 spine

how are those things different from cheesing with 4 gate, 11/11 rax, 6 pool?

you are taking an absurd risk that is a complete coin flip hoping it pays off.


Oh.. so its just REALLY greedy play (very high risk, hence the "cheese"), with perhaps a bit of metagame involved
Interesting

Meanwhile, MC in a pickle

Edit: or maybe not
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
May 27 2012 22:03 GMT
#2288
DAT SPORE ROFL ...wtf
?
ntssauce
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany750 Posts
May 27 2012 22:03 GMT
#2289
rape him please Mc
MMA and Alive you are the best! | Goodbye ST_Sound ~
Rammstorm
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1434 Posts
May 27 2012 22:03 GMT
#2290
Lol those zealots fighting alone like champs :p
"MC" -> Master of Ceremonies xD
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
May 27 2012 22:03 GMT
#2291
Damn this is tense.
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 22:04:35
May 27 2012 22:04 GMT
#2292
that 2 base protoss

GETS SHUT DOWN
savior did nothing wrong
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
May 27 2012 22:04 GMT
#2293
So econ cheesing is basically what FD did in GSL1 (and rightly so considering how imba Terran was back then).
KCrazy
Profile Joined August 2009
United States278 Posts
May 27 2012 22:04 GMT
#2294
pro spore defense ftw!
"We need alcohol" ~Stork
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 27 2012 22:04 GMT
#2295
looks like he hit too late this time
JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
May 27 2012 22:04 GMT
#2296
mc showed it too soon
Jetaap
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France4814 Posts
May 27 2012 22:04 GMT
#2297
Come on day9, Stephano stopped to drone at 48 drones instead of 60 that's why he can defend >_<. Also the pylon was not nearly as well placed for MC.
Automata
Profile Joined March 2011
393 Posts
May 27 2012 22:04 GMT
#2298
How the hell did Stephano hold this?
aimgorge
Profile Joined March 2012
France39 Posts
May 27 2012 22:05 GMT
#2299
Spore imba vs Stalker
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
May 27 2012 22:05 GMT
#2300
On May 28 2012 07:04 babylon wrote:
So econ cheesing is basically what FD did in GSL1 (and rightly so considering how imba Terran was back then).

It's what he did vs TOP on Kulas, yes.
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