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On May 28 2012 00:28 Jazzman88 wrote:
Secondly, while Osotojiy put up a couple of better games, he ALSO went 0-6 in the Group Stage, yet no one shits on him.
You just gave the reason why no one shat on him, because he played an optimal performance (though going Muta vs MC's deathball was lulzy).
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On May 28 2012 01:06 HeroMystic wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 00:28 Jazzman88 wrote:
Secondly, while Osotojiy put up a couple of better games, he ALSO went 0-6 in the Group Stage, yet no one shits on him.
You just gave the reason why no one shat on him, because he played an optimal performance (though going Muta vs MC's deathball was lulzy).
And even more importantly because Ostojiy isn't known for being incredibly bad mannered. When you have no reservations about calling people trash they're going to return the favor when you have a really terrible performance.
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lastshadow went on record saying all foreigners are bad, but he forgot to include himself in this category
and losing to 1 zealot is not okay
when doing a greedy build, you should know the counter/reactions a typical opponent will make and how to deal with them. in this case its very normal for a protoss to chrono a zealot out upon scouting a cc first. lastshadow dealt with it terribly
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any chance a mod could step in and get this thread back on track? i don't want to be reading for another 100 pages tomorrow stuff that has nothing to do remotely with this tournament.
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On May 28 2012 01:32 grapedog wrote:
any chance a mod could step in and get this thread back on track? i don't want to be reading for another 100 pages tomorrow stuff that has nothing to do remotely with this tournament.
you do realize this is the thread for RBBG day 1 right? there's another entire thread for discussing today
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deleted because my response was to a question asked earlier and had nothing "remotely" to do with the tournament.
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Where can I Find yesterday 's main stage VOD?
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On May 27 2012 23:45 Silvertine wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2012 22:50 Theovide wrote:On May 27 2012 19:58 Evangelist wrote:On May 27 2012 19:50 xsnac wrote:is fun how everyone say " lastshadow sucks " but they will never ever get as good as him  Day[9] if you see this , it was a great choice to invite lastshadow , i only watched redbull to see him play , not that i care so much about games but is nice to see a very fast player from time to time , even if he does shit I think even I could have managed to survive a single zealot and I'm in Silver. He was dismal and in no way deserved the invite he got. That's fine. Players can be bad relative to other pros, we've seen it happen a lot and no one holds it against them. However when they are as BM, as egotistical and with the background of cheating that LastShadow has had, there is some enjoyment to be taken by watching a player like Ret (a good, solid, honest foreign player) absolutely maul him. And still I haven't seen anyone posting proof about LS being that total douchebag people try to make him out to be. Please someone bury this guy under the plethora of links that exist, I'm sure they're out there.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=84467#16
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=63176
On May 10 2012 03:31 lastshadow wrote:
This is so old news, and for a progamer with over 2k games played total, he's quite bad.
^ When talking about FBH
"I think foreigners are terrible in StarCraft2 and don't deserve to beat Koreans."
Interview with Dignitas.
That took me all of 5 minutes and there is much more than that.
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On May 28 2012 03:35 Apollo_Shards wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2012 23:45 Silvertine wrote:On May 27 2012 22:50 Theovide wrote:On May 27 2012 19:58 Evangelist wrote:On May 27 2012 19:50 xsnac wrote:is fun how everyone say " lastshadow sucks " but they will never ever get as good as him Day[9] if you see this , it was a great choice to invite lastshadow , i only watched redbull to see him play , not that i care so much about games but is nice to see a very fast player from time to time , even if he does shit I think even I could have managed to survive a single zealot and I'm in Silver. He was dismal and in no way deserved the invite he got. That's fine. Players can be bad relative to other pros, we've seen it happen a lot and no one holds it against them. However when they are as BM, as egotistical and with the background of cheating that LastShadow has had, there is some enjoyment to be taken by watching a player like Ret (a good, solid, honest foreign player) absolutely maul him. And still I haven't seen anyone posting proof about LS being that total douchebag people try to make him out to be. Please someone bury this guy under the plethora of links that exist, I'm sure they're out there. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=84467#16http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=63176Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 03:31 lastshadow wrote:
This is so old news, and for a progamer with over 2k games played total, he's quite bad. ^ When talking about FBH "I think foreigners are terrible in StarCraft2 and don't deserve to beat Koreans." Interview with Dignitas. That took me all of 5 minutes and there is much more than that.
Thanks for the links from 2007 and 2008 LOL. He was 14 and 15 at the time, bud. The other two quotes were known already by us and really if you hate him based on those you are definitely oversensitive.
On another note it seems the reason he deleted his social media is because someone was spamming his builds and his practice account to Squirtle and Parting...
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On May 28 2012 03:35 Apollo_Shards wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2012 23:45 Silvertine wrote:On May 27 2012 22:50 Theovide wrote:On May 27 2012 19:58 Evangelist wrote:On May 27 2012 19:50 xsnac wrote:is fun how everyone say " lastshadow sucks " but they will never ever get as good as him Day[9] if you see this , it was a great choice to invite lastshadow , i only watched redbull to see him play , not that i care so much about games but is nice to see a very fast player from time to time , even if he does shit I think even I could have managed to survive a single zealot and I'm in Silver. He was dismal and in no way deserved the invite he got. That's fine. Players can be bad relative to other pros, we've seen it happen a lot and no one holds it against them. However when they are as BM, as egotistical and with the background of cheating that LastShadow has had, there is some enjoyment to be taken by watching a player like Ret (a good, solid, honest foreign player) absolutely maul him. And still I haven't seen anyone posting proof about LS being that total douchebag people try to make him out to be. Please someone bury this guy under the plethora of links that exist, I'm sure they're out there. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=84467#16http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=63176Show nested quote +On May 10 2012 03:31 lastshadow wrote:
This is so old news, and for a progamer with over 2k games played total, he's quite bad. ^ When talking about FBH "I think foreigners are terrible in StarCraft2 and don't deserve to beat Koreans." Interview with Dignitas. That took me all of 5 minutes and there is much more than that.
I won't speak to the weird shit it seems like he posted when he was younger, that just sounds like BS without a doubt (I lied once or twice when I was younger although I didn't do it on a community where it was archived LOL). However you should really post that entire quote:
I think foreigners are terrible in StarCraft2 and don't deserve to beat Koreans. I mean obvious exceptions to this are foreigners who reside in Korea (even if they're not known or as good as the Koreans, they at least commit the same way Koreans do) and/or honestly good foreigners like Stephano, Thorzain, Ret, Juan, IdrA, etc, I could name a few more but that's the general gist.
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On May 27 2012 12:55 Liquid`Ret wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2012 12:54 TheSwamp wrote:On May 27 2012 12:54 Liquid`Ret wrote:
im so fucking sad that i lose to this shit every single tournamment it doesnt matter if i macro inject and overlord perfectly i just get raped by ff's no chance... and if you open anything other than 3 base they can just play something else so gg We still love you Ret! i dont care if you love me honestly (I do care, but you get what I mean) I want to win games and in practice i beat everybody the last 4 days then tournament day comes boom the grubby build that im 0-8 vs no matter what i do ROFL
Your frustrations would be better spent on practice instead of QQ on the forums. I'm not saying this to be mean, but there are plenty of ways to deal with that build, and there is no excuse to be losing that much to it. Get someone to help you out, there are plenty of protosses out there that would help you with that, maybe some on your own team.
You are one of the top players in the world and in my opnion, a top 3 zerg with a LOT of succes vs. protoss. It's okay to lose to players who are at the top of their game and their races, just hang in there and work it out.
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On May 28 2012 03:48 Lore-Fighting wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2012 12:55 Liquid`Ret wrote:On May 27 2012 12:54 TheSwamp wrote:On May 27 2012 12:54 Liquid`Ret wrote:
im so fucking sad that i lose to this shit every single tournamment it doesnt matter if i macro inject and overlord perfectly i just get raped by ff's no chance... and if you open anything other than 3 base they can just play something else so gg We still love you Ret! i dont care if you love me honestly (I do care, but you get what I mean) I want to win games and in practice i beat everybody the last 4 days then tournament day comes boom the grubby build that im 0-8 vs no matter what i do ROFL Your frustrations would be better spent on practice instead of QQ on the forums. I'm not saying this to be mean, but there are plenty of ways to deal with that build, and there is no excuse to be losing that much to it. Get someone to help you out, there are plenty of protosses out there that would help you with that, maybe some on your own team. You are one of the top players in the world and in my opnion, a top 3 zerg with a LOT of succes vs. protoss. It's okay to lose to players who are at the top of their game and their races, just hang in there and work it out.
ya the few minutes its taking him to write out posts venting frustration while still at the tournament are severely damaging his practice regime.
shut the fuck up. you're the reason pros dont post on here anymore.
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On May 28 2012 03:43 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 03:35 Apollo_Shards wrote:On May 27 2012 23:45 Silvertine wrote:On May 27 2012 22:50 Theovide wrote:On May 27 2012 19:58 Evangelist wrote:On May 27 2012 19:50 xsnac wrote:is fun how everyone say " lastshadow sucks " but they will never ever get as good as him Day[9] if you see this , it was a great choice to invite lastshadow , i only watched redbull to see him play , not that i care so much about games but is nice to see a very fast player from time to time , even if he does shit I think even I could have managed to survive a single zealot and I'm in Silver. He was dismal and in no way deserved the invite he got. That's fine. Players can be bad relative to other pros, we've seen it happen a lot and no one holds it against them. However when they are as BM, as egotistical and with the background of cheating that LastShadow has had, there is some enjoyment to be taken by watching a player like Ret (a good, solid, honest foreign player) absolutely maul him. And still I haven't seen anyone posting proof about LS being that total douchebag people try to make him out to be. Please someone bury this guy under the plethora of links that exist, I'm sure they're out there. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=84467#16http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=63176On May 10 2012 03:31 lastshadow wrote:
This is so old news, and for a progamer with over 2k games played total, he's quite bad. ^ When talking about FBH "I think foreigners are terrible in StarCraft2 and don't deserve to beat Koreans." Interview with Dignitas. That took me all of 5 minutes and there is much more than that. Thanks for the links from 2007 and 2008 LOL. He was 14 and 15 at the time, bud. The other two quotes were known already by us and really if you hate him based on those you are definitely oversensitive. On another note it seems the reason he deleted his social media is because someone was spamming his builds and his practice account to Squirtle and Parting...
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With comments like those I can see why those you think people are over sensitive.
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On May 28 2012 04:19 Apollo_Shards wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 03:43 Doodsmack wrote:On May 28 2012 03:35 Apollo_Shards wrote:On May 27 2012 23:45 Silvertine wrote:On May 27 2012 22:50 Theovide wrote:On May 27 2012 19:58 Evangelist wrote:On May 27 2012 19:50 xsnac wrote:is fun how everyone say " lastshadow sucks " but they will never ever get as good as him Day[9] if you see this , it was a great choice to invite lastshadow , i only watched redbull to see him play , not that i care so much about games but is nice to see a very fast player from time to time , even if he does shit I think even I could have managed to survive a single zealot and I'm in Silver. He was dismal and in no way deserved the invite he got. That's fine. Players can be bad relative to other pros, we've seen it happen a lot and no one holds it against them. However when they are as BM, as egotistical and with the background of cheating that LastShadow has had, there is some enjoyment to be taken by watching a player like Ret (a good, solid, honest foreign player) absolutely maul him. And still I haven't seen anyone posting proof about LS being that total douchebag people try to make him out to be. Please someone bury this guy under the plethora of links that exist, I'm sure they're out there. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=84467#16http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=63176On May 10 2012 03:31 lastshadow wrote:
This is so old news, and for a progamer with over 2k games played total, he's quite bad. ^ When talking about FBH "I think foreigners are terrible in StarCraft2 and don't deserve to beat Koreans." Interview with Dignitas. That took me all of 5 minutes and there is much more than that. Thanks for the links from 2007 and 2008 LOL. He was 14 and 15 at the time, bud. The other two quotes were known already by us and really if you hate him based on those you are definitely oversensitive. On another note it seems the reason he deleted his social media is because someone was spamming his builds and his practice account to Squirtle and Parting... + Show Spoiler +With comments like those I can see why those you think people are over sensitive.
On one hand I'm kind of weirded out that you went to the trouble of looking at this guys twitter account to see what dirt you could dig up on him, and on the other, that this guy is so BM XD
Also Idra get back to kicking ass man! TOO MUCH QQ ABOUT RET QQ
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On May 28 2012 04:30 WhiteLantern wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 04:19 Apollo_Shards wrote:On May 28 2012 03:43 Doodsmack wrote:On May 28 2012 03:35 Apollo_Shards wrote:On May 27 2012 23:45 Silvertine wrote:On May 27 2012 22:50 Theovide wrote:On May 27 2012 19:58 Evangelist wrote:On May 27 2012 19:50 xsnac wrote:is fun how everyone say " lastshadow sucks " but they will never ever get as good as him Day[9] if you see this , it was a great choice to invite lastshadow , i only watched redbull to see him play , not that i care so much about games but is nice to see a very fast player from time to time , even if he does shit I think even I could have managed to survive a single zealot and I'm in Silver. He was dismal and in no way deserved the invite he got. That's fine. Players can be bad relative to other pros, we've seen it happen a lot and no one holds it against them. However when they are as BM, as egotistical and with the background of cheating that LastShadow has had, there is some enjoyment to be taken by watching a player like Ret (a good, solid, honest foreign player) absolutely maul him. And still I haven't seen anyone posting proof about LS being that total douchebag people try to make him out to be. Please someone bury this guy under the plethora of links that exist, I'm sure they're out there. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=84467#16http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=63176On May 10 2012 03:31 lastshadow wrote:
This is so old news, and for a progamer with over 2k games played total, he's quite bad. ^ When talking about FBH "I think foreigners are terrible in StarCraft2 and don't deserve to beat Koreans." Interview with Dignitas. That took me all of 5 minutes and there is much more than that. Thanks for the links from 2007 and 2008 LOL. He was 14 and 15 at the time, bud. The other two quotes were known already by us and really if you hate him based on those you are definitely oversensitive. On another note it seems the reason he deleted his social media is because someone was spamming his builds and his practice account to Squirtle and Parting... + Show Spoiler +With comments like those I can see why those you think people are over sensitive. On one hand I'm kind of weirded out that you went to the trouble of looking at this guys twitter account to see what dirt you could dig up on him, and on the other, that this guy is so BM XD Also Idra get back to kicking ass man! TOO MUCH QQ ABOUT RET QQ
I didnt get that from his twitter. I just remembered it from yesterday when I was watching Off The Record during the RB battlegrounds down time, and saw that comment. I didnt even know he had a twitter.
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Good to see IdrA laying the smack down lol.
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Will there be VODs?
I know that you can view the Red Bull Stream VOD on Twitch, but what about the Main Stage Day9 Stream? 
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On May 28 2012 04:15 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2012 03:48 Lore-Fighting wrote:On May 27 2012 12:55 Liquid`Ret wrote:On May 27 2012 12:54 TheSwamp wrote:On May 27 2012 12:54 Liquid`Ret wrote:
im so fucking sad that i lose to this shit every single tournamment it doesnt matter if i macro inject and overlord perfectly i just get raped by ff's no chance... and if you open anything other than 3 base they can just play something else so gg We still love you Ret! i dont care if you love me honestly (I do care, but you get what I mean) I want to win games and in practice i beat everybody the last 4 days then tournament day comes boom the grubby build that im 0-8 vs no matter what i do ROFL Your frustrations would be better spent on practice instead of QQ on the forums. I'm not saying this to be mean, but there are plenty of ways to deal with that build, and there is no excuse to be losing that much to it. Get someone to help you out, there are plenty of protosses out there that would help you with that, maybe some on your own team. You are one of the top players in the world and in my opnion, a top 3 zerg with a LOT of succes vs. protoss. It's okay to lose to players who are at the top of their game and their races, just hang in there and work it out. ya the few minutes its taking him to write out posts venting frustration while still at the tournament are severely damaging his practice regime. shut the fuck up. you're the reason pros dont post on here anymore.
Why do you act like this online and not in your interviews? Just wondering.
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