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Day[9] if you see this , it was a great choice to invite lastshadow , i only watched redbull to see him play , not that i care so much about games but is nice to see a very fast player from time to time , even if he does shit
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xsnac
Barbados1365 Posts
Day[9] if you see this , it was a great choice to invite lastshadow , i only watched redbull to see him play , not that i care so much about games but is nice to see a very fast player from time to time , even if he does shit | ||
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kWak
Poland15 Posts
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Evangelist
1246 Posts
On May 27 2012 19:50 xsnac wrote: is fun how everyone say " lastshadow sucks " but they will never ever get as good as him Day[9] if you see this , it was a great choice to invite lastshadow , i only watched redbull to see him play , not that i care so much about games but is nice to see a very fast player from time to time , even if he does shit I think even I could have managed to survive a single zealot and I'm in Silver. He was dismal and in no way deserved the invite he got. That's fine. Players can be bad relative to other pros, we've seen it happen a lot and no one holds it against them. However when they are as BM, as egotistical and with the background of cheating that LastShadow has had, there is some enjoyment to be taken by watching a player like Ret (a good, solid, honest foreign player) absolutely maul him. | ||
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takingbackoj
United States684 Posts
On May 27 2012 19:58 Evangelist wrote: I think even I could have managed to survive a single zealot and I'm in Silver. He was dismal and in no way deserved the invite he got. That's fine. Players can be bad relative to other pros, we've seen it happen a lot and no one holds it against them. However when they are as BM, as egotistical and with the background of cheating that LastShadow has had, there is some enjoyment to be taken by watching a player like Ret (a good, solid, honest foreign player) absolutely maul him. My problem wasnt his play but that he quit. Could you imagine greats like MvP or a BW pro just leaving mid tourney for any reason other than like a death in the family? Heck Sheth was out after his second match but came back and beat Sase in his third anyway and then helped cast the rest of the show. Maybe he had a good excuse but there aren't many that I think are acceptable for that situation but we'll see. People have to remember that LS didn't steal a spot, he was invited by Day9 regardless if you agree with it or not but upon accepting the invite he owed it to every player that would have gladly done anything to be there and compete to at least give as much effort as possible so the spot wasn't just wasted. | ||
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Silvertine
United States509 Posts
On May 27 2012 19:50 xsnac wrote: is fun how everyone say " lastshadow sucks " but they will never ever get as good as him Many of the people berating him are easily on his level. This probably isn't the best time to gloat about how good he is. Day[9] if you see this , it was a great choice to invite lastshadow , i only watched redbull to see him play , not that i care so much about games but is nice to see a very fast player from time to time , even if he does shit It was a great choice to invite someone who got murdered and forfeited their last match depriving the spectators of a series? And if all you're concerned about is players being very fast... well that applies to just about every Korean and most of the foreigners. | ||
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
On May 27 2012 19:54 kWak wrote: Could anyone post the barcket? Can't find it on my own. It's not released yet, will decided today on stream I guess. EDIT: NVm, games are here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=340228¤tpage=204#4077 I think. _> | ||
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perser84
Germany399 Posts
i heard he is 18 or 20 ? dude i never cheated but did other shit when i was in his age everybody made mistakes and i have the feeling that he try to redeem himself he is bad mannered so what i know some badmannered player in the past remember ? like or naniwa or ragequiting idra but now they are fine fact is he is gm on korean servers and that means for me alot | ||
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Demonaz
United Kingdom1219 Posts
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...what
England94 Posts
But yeah poor show from LS admittedly he was sick but leaving was possibly the worst thing he could do, makes him look immature and he's going to have trouble ever being taken seriously from now on. I hope he can bounce back because I like his usual attitude to the game of perseverance. Its still blindingly obvious that he's ruled by his emotions still though. : ( | ||
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Andorson
Germany166 Posts
On May 27 2012 20:36 Demonaz wrote: So when does day 2 start? Can't find any info On TL Calendar it is 20:00 CEST | ||
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Titorelli
2492 Posts
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Andorson
Germany166 Posts
On May 27 2012 20:44 Titorelli wrote: Sorry I didn't read the thread at all because I didn't want to spoiler myself. Where can I find the VODs if there are any? Stream #2 | ||
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4ZakeN87
Sweden1071 Posts
On May 27 2012 20:27 perser84 wrote: guys i dont care if he cheat in the past.... i heard he is 18 or 20 ? dude i never cheated but did other shit when i was in his age everybody made mistakes and i have the feeling that he try to redeem himself he is bad mannered so what i know some badmannered player in the past remember ? like or naniwa or ragequiting idra but now they are fine fact is he is gm on korean servers and that means for me alot Well it is a lot more volatile to be BM when you have poor results. Naniwa gets away with stuff cause he is really good player and people acknowledge he has great understanding of the game, if Naniwa say that pro player X is bad he probably still fine as long it is not a top Korean. | ||
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Silvertine
United States509 Posts
If you act like a dick and perform terribly at tournaments people will hammer you. There is no way around this. You can be nice, or you can do well. If you do neither then you should expect what's going to come your way. When other foreigners play badly LastShadow routinely talks about what trash they are, so sorry, you can't have it both ways. On May 27 2012 20:37 ...what wrote: I don't think any of the people who claim to be 'easily his level' are even close. A lot of the people who heavily criticize him are progamers themselves... I'm nowhere near the level of a progamer and I'm 3-0 against him. He stayed each time to tell me how "fucking terrible and pathetic" I am. And I'm not bragging, I'm specifically contradicting the silly assumption that no one criticizing him is anywhere near his skill level. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
You can find part of group C here: http://www.twitch.tv/redbullsc2 | ||
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FrogOfWar
Germany1406 Posts
Ugh ... Game 1 Ret vs Squirtle is cut off during some intense fighting action.  But thanks for the link.Lastshadow didn't look that bad btw. Some bad luck combined with his opponents being extremely good. The disconnect was a shame, that could have worked out well for him, and taking a game off of Squirtle, even if not making it to the playoffs, would have drawn a different picture. | ||
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Silvertine
United States509 Posts
On May 27 2012 21:25 FrogOfWar wrote: Lastshadow didn't look that bad btw. Some bad luck combined with his opponents being extremely good. The disconnect was a shame, that could have worked out well for him, and taking a game off of Squirtle, even if not making it to the playoffs, would have drawn a different picture. What bad luck? Of course his opponents were extremely good, no one expected him to win. What people are amazed by is just how badly he lost. He was beating himself in those games, his opponents weren't even relevant. If you do an extremely greedy mech build vs zerg and choose to attack with virtually nothing, you will get crushed by roaches. Your opponent may as well be in low masters if you're going to do that. The same thing goes for g1 against Squirtle, he lost to a zealot. You can't tell me that any random protoss player couldn't have done that. And he wasn't in a good position at all before that disconnect, that's why almost everyone thought he plug pulled(which he didn't). In fact he was in a pretty precarious situation, Squirtle was just about to hit a potent timing. If you want to say that one tournament isn't everything or give any other defense of LastShadow, that's fine. But to say that he didn't play god awful is just delusional. | ||
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fcb10
113 Posts
"Premier Tournaments offer an outstanding prize pool, are frequently played out offline, and feature the best players from all over the world." fits the bill imo | ||
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Tommyth
Poland117 Posts
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